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Post by faggotygas on Jan 25, 2017 12:16:05 GMT
Yes, because signing lots of players on lots of money has always been the recipe for success in football. Except of course when it hasn't and its led to the club becoming a basket case, which is most of the time.
You are starting to come across as a glory hunter.
The point about the 2 bradford signings though is they are not that expensive imo but to me they look the right type of signings for a club pushing for promotion. People on here happily suggest signing ollie watkins or bogle or even bloody akinde but they are all way outside our budget unless we sell taylor. What im saying is that as soon as i saw those signings i thought "good business",i havnt really felt that with any of our signings this season including the latest 3. Well bully for you, personally I'm prepared to give the manager a chance. He's unearthed gems before.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2017 12:17:42 GMT
Just to show you the difference, Sheff Utd signed a RB John Brayford for £1.96m (may differ depending where you look) in Jan 2015 whilst still in L1. Yes a RB!
We just cant compete with that sort of power, and that will be everyone x3 in the Championship should we get there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2017 12:36:20 GMT
Whats happened on this forum is that a large group of people will not accept any critical comment against the manager or owner and anyone who dares to be critical is attacked by various members of the "positive only clan" and called out as "wum" "shi* heads" etc. They then whine about whats gone wrong with the forum? Whats gone wrong is that some people have different opinions its quite shocking isnt it? Hanson and o"shea are not big money signings in my view and are exactly the type of players we should go trying to sign.
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Post by LJG on Jan 25, 2017 12:41:10 GMT
Whats happened on this forum is that a large group of people will not accept any critical comment against the manager or owner and anyone who dares to be critical is attacked by various members of the "positive only clan" and called out as "wum" "shi* heads" etc. They then whine about whats gone wrong with the forum? Whats gone wrong is that some people have different opinions its quite shocking isnt it? Hanson and o"shea are not big money signings in my view and are exactly the type of players we should go trying to sign. I don't think anyone has a problem with your opinions or you having them but the tone of your posts are almost exclusively very confrontational - you've started two threads in a week directly mocking individual forum members. When people point this out you get upset then say you didn't mean it to come out like that then do it again.
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Post by philbemmygas on Jan 25, 2017 12:42:55 GMT
Whats happened on this forum is that a large group of people will not accept any critical comment against the manager or owner and anyone who dares to be critical is attacked by various members of the "positive only clan" and called out as "wum" "shi* heads" etc. They then whine about whats gone wrong with the forum? Whats gone wrong is that some people have different opinions its quite shocking isnt it? Hanson and o"shea are not big money signings in my view and are exactly the type of players we should go trying to sign. That is in your opinion, which clearly differs from others. Accept that and move on
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Post by kabatiti on Jan 25, 2017 12:47:29 GMT
I would prefer we do things the Bristol Rovers way.
I started supporting the Gas as a kid in the 1980's and witnessed a group of players many signed from Non League turned into an amazing team by Gerry Francis.
I believe DC has the ability to do this in the modern game and want to see more rough diamonds (Taylor, Sinclair etc.) signed and more of our own brought into the first team. Opposed to signings who have played for 'bigger teams'. The likes of Kenneth, Gill, Blizzard etc. just are not Bristol Rovers players.
I remember the relief at getting our Rovers back when things started to go well for us in the Conference and for one want to keep our Rovers.
Throwing money after instant success isn't the way to go imo.
It's not going to be easy to build a great team and much of this work will have to take place on the training pitch. As well as fostering a team spirit and identity which fits our means. We have always stuck by the team no matter how sh**e we have been and it's been far worse than being inconsistent in League 1 in recent memory.
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Post by baggins on Jan 25, 2017 12:58:44 GMT
Whats happened on this forum is that a large group of people will not accept any critical comment against the manager or owner and anyone who dares to be critical is attacked by various members of the "positive only clan" and called out as "wum" "shi* heads" etc. They then whine about whats gone wrong with the forum? Whats gone wrong is that some people have different opinions its quite shocking isnt it? Hanson and o"shea are not big money signings in my view and are exactly the type of players we should go trying to sign. Critical comments without any basis is what gets on everyones nerves. And the way you put your point across. It could be the problem with written posts that not everyone gets your opinion. We are not made of money, we have an owner who will see us progress at a steady, sensible rate with investment where needed. Hope you see my point.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jan 25, 2017 13:08:36 GMT
But we don't generate the off-field income from conferences, events etc or even sponsorship that some clubs do and that why there is pressure for a new stadium, it's not just about people sitting comfortably, it's the hope of additional income streams. Assets need to generate income in all businesses and you can see that thinking when Hamer talks about new training ground and looking at the Fleetwood example where over £300k a year is generated from community use. If you spend a few million on a training ground it's a drain on resources but if you can use it to generate cash then you have an asset and income stream that makes the project sustainable. This is the way Wael sees things I believe and hence the drawn out saga at UWE - the deals must produce a return for us financially or it will simply drain cash and his aim is a sustainable club. But we already do conferences etc at the mem and our shirt sponsorship is supposed to be a good deal for the club, I guess the easiest way to check is compare turnover at other div 1 clubs like Swindon as that's usually all shown in their annual accounts which are in the public domain. Just take a minute to look at what they offer at Brammall Lane. The conference facilities water all over anything we've got plus they've got a view of the pitch. That's before you even start on the 4 star hotel with 158 bedrooms. If you still think we can compete with that then quite frankly you're having a laugh. sheffieldconference.com/
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2017 13:15:24 GMT
Lost 0-3 to Fleetwood last night!
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Post by faggotygas on Jan 25, 2017 13:16:08 GMT
Whats happened on this forum is that a large group of people will not accept any critical comment against the manager or owner and anyone who dares to be critical is attacked by various members of the "positive only clan" and called out as "wum" "shi* heads" etc. They then whine about whats gone wrong with the forum? Whats gone wrong is that some people have different opinions its quite shocking isnt it? Hanson and o"shea are not big money signings in my view and are exactly the type of players we should go trying to sign. Ok, so how much did they cost, how much are they being paid, and how does that compare to how much our current players are being paid?
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Post by baggins on Jan 25, 2017 13:17:26 GMT
Whats happened on this forum is that a large group of people will not accept any critical comment against the manager or owner and anyone who dares to be critical is attacked by various members of the "positive only clan" and called out as "wum" "shi* heads" etc. They then whine about whats gone wrong with the forum? Whats gone wrong is that some people have different opinions its quite shocking isnt it? Hanson and o"shea are not big money signings in my view and are exactly the type of players we should go trying to sign. Ok, so how much did they cost, how much are they being paid, and how does that compare to how much our current players are being paid? And there's the question right there.
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Post by pucklegas on Jan 25, 2017 13:23:35 GMT
Let's concentrate on us, I don't care about anyone else be nice if our foreign legion neighbours got relegated though!
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Post by surreygas on Jan 25, 2017 13:46:24 GMT
Whereas I don't think we should be comparing ourselves with a team that has spent most of its existence in the top two divisions, I cant help but feel a little disappointed that we don't seem to have the financial resource to be able to buy a few proven players to complement the gems that Darrell has signed up.
But for now I think we should settle for consolidation in league 1 and hope for some good news on the new stadium which should bring the prospect of playing in the Championship (and higher).
Some of the reactions I've witnessed at Shrewsbury and Walsall make me cringe with embarrassment to think that people have forgotten that we were in the conference a couple of years ago when most of us feared that we would be there for a few years.
We've come a long way in the last two years - way ahead of my expectations - so if the club takes a breather for a year or two while it establishes itself in league 1 I'll settle for that.
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Post by gregsy on Jan 25, 2017 14:07:42 GMT
i find the terms 'settle for', 'consolidate', 'happy with' are all phrases that darrell wouldn't use....
the bloke has proved himself to be a winner, and boy does he know how to use a football season....
i still think people don't get him....
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Post by Jomo on Jan 25, 2017 14:12:07 GMT
Whats happened on this forum is that a large group of people will not accept any critical comment against the manager or owner and anyone who dares to be critical is attacked by various members of the "positive only clan" and called out as "wum" "shi* heads" etc. They then whine about whats gone wrong with the forum? Whats gone wrong is that some people have different opinions its quite shocking isnt it? Hanson and o"shea are not big money signings in my view and are exactly the type of players we should go trying to sign. If you really were trying to make a valid point then I apologise. In fairness the other thread I saw you start was a sarcastic rant in response to SteveK's match report. That OP on that thread was most certain a wind-up, hence why I used the term WUM. I'm not accusing you of being a Sheed, but the way you came across in this thread OP also, in my view, came across as a wind-up. Perhaps I was wrong, if so, then I apologise.
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Post by Marshy on Jan 25, 2017 14:19:16 GMT
Lost 0-3 to Fleetwood last night! I thought it was 0 - 2 did I miss a goal then?
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Post by northseagas on Jan 25, 2017 14:42:57 GMT
Do we as a club really want or need another promotion This season ? Because without some decent signing We would struggle like hell in the championship. And I for one would rather have a number of years There rather than one sh** one I don't think the time is right at the moment , if we Ever get the a new ground with bigger crowd then Things can be built on a decent budget. Even if wael is flush for cash he is still tied by the fair Play rules when it comes to signings , a lot of people Forget this when they drone on about what he is doing for the club
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2017 14:44:41 GMT
Whats happened on this forum is that a large group of people will not accept any critical comment against the manager or owner and anyone who dares to be critical is attacked by various members of the "positive only clan" and called out as "wum" "shi* heads" etc. They then whine about whats gone wrong with the forum? Whats gone wrong is that some people have different opinions its quite shocking isnt it? Hanson and o"shea are not big money signings in my view and are exactly the type of players we should go trying to sign. Its not the fact that it's criticism, it's that it's mainly criticism which isn't valid in most cases. Demonstrably so. It's in the minority and mainly from covert 82ers (we ALWAYS get them when they are doing poorly) and a collection of decent Gasheads who are stuck in 2013. Either way, those of us which retain double digit stores of brain cells will continue to beat down and mock our opponents until they produce some valid counter-argument, which is as yet lacking.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2017 14:47:03 GMT
A nice fat shot of Directors bitter. A nice big thick slice , of thin lizzy ....from the britpot bands - ub40, def leapord to classic rock like wings....
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Post by Okebournegas on Jan 25, 2017 14:50:04 GMT
A nice big thick slice , of thin lizzy ....from the britpot bands - ub40, def leapord to classic rock like wings.... Wings? They're only the band the Beatles could of been !
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