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Post by Gas_Quarters on Jan 31, 2017 22:54:22 GMT
Did he use the word player? Are you sure he wasn't talking in riddles and meant the training ground or uwe agreement being signed? That's what I picked up from what people were saying earlier. Clearly said a new player will be joining Interesting. In that case I look forward to the next forum meltdown on Thursday when we sign a player and it isn't a replacement for MT 😂😂
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Post by ghaniangas on Jan 31, 2017 22:55:29 GMT
Clearly said a new player will be joining Interesting. In that case I look forward to the next forum meltdown on Thursday when we sign a player and it isn't a replacement for MT 😂😂 It's not a forward surely a goalie then
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Post by milesy83 on Jan 31, 2017 22:59:06 GMT
Quite hard when the window for signings and loans close in 1min 👍
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 23:03:03 GMT
400 k from Chelsea game and 300 from judas. Sorry my mistake, we don't spend any! If you ignore the £3m debt paid last march to avoid administration, the £1.2m on thw training ground? And a complete creation of around 15 backroom staff then tour right we dont spend money. Feck me im glad we have professionals at the helm these days who kow how to turn a pub team set up off the pitch into a professional outfit. Rant and ignore the facts all tou like it wont change the fact that this club is being built properly, amd no amount of fNs ignori g what waq said from day 1 will change that.
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Post by Somersetgas on Jan 31, 2017 23:08:17 GMT
Sorry my mistake, we don't spend any! If you ignore the £3m debt paid last march to avoid administration, the £1.2m on thw training ground? And a complete creation of around 15 backroom staff then tour right we dont spend money. Feck me im glad we have professionals at the helm these days who kow how to turn a pub team set up off the pitch into a professional outfit. Rant and ignore the facts all tou like it wont change the fact that this club is being built properly, amd no amount of fNs ignori g what waq said from day 1 will change that. Was the debt paid or just moved to a holding company? Who will actually own the training ground? Will it ever get built? UWE ? No back up plan for loosing your top scorer, that is purely bad management, if Higgs was here now he would be being slaughtered for doing the same.....
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Post by patchwaygas on Jan 31, 2017 23:17:11 GMT
How Higgs must have wished he had come up with a line like evolution not revolution. It's an excuse to do and spend nothing whilst giving the impression you're building the club from the bottom up! Inspired.
The debt remains we just owe Dwayne Sports instead, there is no new stadium, we don't have a training ground and we have bought no new players of any worth since they took over.
I hoped and believed that Rovers would move on from Ragbag Rovers after the takeover, but a year on I haven't seen any evidence yet, except the new scoreboard of course!
#evolution not revolution
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Post by 70s on Jan 31, 2017 23:27:42 GMT
As optimistic as I try to be you have sumed up my thoughts
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 23:38:42 GMT
How Higgs must have wished he had come up with a line like evolution not revolution. It's an excuse to do and spend nothing whilst giving the impression you're building the club from the bottom up! Inspired.The debt remains we just owe Dwayne Sports instead, there is no new stadium, we don't have a training ground and we have bought no new players of any worth since they took over. I hoped and believed that Rovers would move on from Ragbag Rovers after the takeover, but a year on I haven't seen any evidence yet, except the new scoreboard of course! #evolution not revolution I'd give this 20 thumbs up if I could. The thing with evolution is that there is no time limit on it, so when do you stand up and say where is the progress?. I dont see many Bournemouth fans wishing they hadn't gone for it when they were taken over by rich owners.
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Post by mftc on Feb 1, 2017 0:01:35 GMT
Now the window has closed there will be several players who are "paid up" and released as free agents.I would imagine these could be the signings later in the week.
Ie if someone signed them two hours ago they might have paid a transfer fee or matched their wages. If they are paid up there is a good chance they will be willing to take a pay cut.
Patience can sometimes be a good thing. Remember when some on the forum said we gave Taylor too long in the summer to make a decision? Well we got more money than we would have got by letting him go then. Plus he has helped us be effectively safe from the drop.
In reality the play off chances were slim already, so why spend £200k on a replacement or a GK now when we can get a free for the same player in the summer?
On a positive, if we don't look like getting in the play offs there will be a good chance that the likes of James, Lucas and Broom will get a few matches and the defence can start to build up some partnerships.
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Post by tommym9 on Feb 1, 2017 0:16:12 GMT
They are division higher than a year ago and look like easily staying there. Just saying !!! Saturdays team Lumley - New (loan QPR) Brown Lockyer Sweeney - New (loan Stoke) Leabitter Bodin Clark Lines Sinclair Harrison Taylor - Sold again can someone explain how this is a stronger side than before the takeover? No explanation needed. That team is sitting 8th in League One compared to birng top half of League Two February last season. No doubt Taylor leaving has weakened us but it's not the end of the world
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 1, 2017 0:27:30 GMT
Saturdays team Lumley - New (loan QPR) Brown Lockyer Sweeney - New (loan Stoke) Leabitter Bodin Clark Lines Sinclair Harrison Taylor - Sold again can someone explain how this is a stronger side than before the takeover? question for you - do players you already own get better by complete accident or by coaching and good tactics? I presume it is the former and all football clubs should constantly get rid of their players and buy in new ones from somewhere else. That's it in a nutshell Martin. Some people only think it's better if you buy players rather than coach existing players to be better. DC makes most players better and he's done it to most of these players. 4/5 players who got relegated out of the league, 7/8 players who were in the Conference and against Northampton all 11 who were in league 2. Now we are sat in the top half of league 1. I think they are a stronger side but whatever your opinion is you've got to say they are performing better which to my mind is more or less the same thing. That would be my explanation of how they are a stronger side. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 1, 2017 0:33:18 GMT
Taylor had a release clause, we couldn't stop his sale. Give them more time on the ground. This week we could own our own training ground for the first time in a long time - in the majority of my lifetime at least if not all of it. It's Darrell who doesn't want to spend and he's right if it's not going to be the right decision in the long run. Who the hell do you think gave that Fool a release clause in his contract? WE did! After the snake spent all summer watering about training on his own etc he came back to us after no other interest signed on a decent wage which WE offerd and then his agent put a release clause in that contract which we accepted. We did obviously but what is so hard about understanding the idea that if that clause hadn't been in the contract he wouldn't have signed for us, he would have signed for Oxford...for nothing. And we wouldn't have had 19 goals. Yes we are all p***** off about him going to city but let's not try and rewrite history and wonder why the clause was there. I think most people understand why it was. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 0:55:14 GMT
question for you - do players you already own get better by complete accident or by coaching and good tactics? I presume it is the former and all football clubs should constantly get rid of their players and buy in new ones from somewhere else. I agree the players and coaches have done a brilliant job stepping up to League One, but they were all here a year ago. If the takeover had not happened we would still be where we are because the credit goes to the players and coaches, but Hamer and Al Qadi take the credit, what have they done? Waell paid off the wonga loan and the court costs which together were a couple of million, new training ground purchased for over £1m and stumped up the costs for MY £4k a week wages. We would be in administration or wound-up without Wael and his family. Failure to do good business in this window down to DC I'm afraid. That said he's a great man manager but needs help in negotiating transfers.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 19:04:25 GMT
If you ignore the £3m debt paid last march to avoid administration, the £1.2m on thw training ground? And a complete creation of around 15 backroom staff then tour right we dont spend money. Feck me im glad we have professionals at the helm these days who kow how to turn a pub team set up off the pitch into a professional outfit. Rant and ignore the facts all tou like it wont change the fact that this club is being built properly, amd no amount of fNs ignori g what waq said from day 1 will change that. Was the debt paid or just moved to a holding company? Who will actually own the training ground? Will it ever get built? UWE ? No back up plan for loosing your top scorer, that is purely bad management, if Higgs was here now he would be being slaughtered for doing the same..... Ah another one who believes a stadium should be built under the plans of the previous chairman, very entertaining indeed.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 2, 2017 19:18:14 GMT
I agree the players and coaches have done a brilliant job stepping up to League One, but they were all here a year ago. If the takeover had not happened we would still be where we are because the credit goes to the players and coaches, but Hamer and Al Qadi take the credit, what have they done? Waell paid off the wonga loan and the court costs which together were a couple of million, new training ground purchased for over £1m and stumped up the costs for MY £4k a week wages. We would be in administration or wound-up without Wael and his family. Failure to do good business in this window down to DC I'm afraid. That said he's a great man manager but needs help in negotiating transfers. The wonga loan was taken out to pay the court costs so you can't count the latter twice but none of us know what's happened to the loan, given the Al-Q's are shareholders of a bank it could be fairly easy to transfer the debt to their own bank and just let it incur interest at a lower rate. As far as the training ground is concerned tomorrow is D Day so no money has been handed over at the moment. God knows why you are getting £4K p.w. wages are you SH is disguise? Why is the failure all down to DC, if he's only been given X amount to work with and all the players want Y amount what's he supposed to do, pay the extra out of his pocket? Assuming the Al-Q's are here for the long ride at some point DC will have to be given better transfer funds if they want him to build a team capable of reaching the Championship and staying there.
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Post by amgas on Feb 2, 2017 19:23:55 GMT
Luke James was the backup plan for him not signing in the Summer - so we have had a plan long before the Snake left.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 19:29:36 GMT
There's a signing being announced on Thursday, I have spoken to Wael on Instagram and said a new player will be announced on a permanent deal and it's not a forward Solid info from a solid disclosed source! Notice how the forum didn't take much interest though.... Only interested in false itk BS and guesswork round here!
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Post by Somersetgas on Feb 2, 2017 20:08:16 GMT
Was the debt paid or just moved to a holding company? Who will actually own the training ground? Will it ever get built? UWE ? No back up plan for loosing your top scorer, that is purely bad management, if Higgs was here now he would be being slaughtered for doing the same..... Ah another one who believes a stadium should be built under the plans of the previous chairman, very entertaining indeed. No I just don't believe all the hype about our current owners and board. Look what has happened at Blackburn, Forrest , Charlton. I could go on naming clubs with foreign investment who came in promising the world and end up in a bigger mess than when they started. I'm not saying that will happen but Mr Hamers speech on the radio hardly did the club any justice or himself. I also would like a stadium to be built but I'll believe it when I am inside it and not before.
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Post by Somersetgas on Feb 2, 2017 20:28:36 GMT
Luke James was the backup plan for him not signing in the Summer - so we have had a plan long before the Snake left. I hope Luke James does well but I still say it is bad management as he's hardly match fit, or in any sort of form. Not having a plan B is bad management. But we can all put spin on a situation.
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Post by martinboxer on Feb 2, 2017 20:40:18 GMT
I will caveat all this with I am not in the know but do speak to people in course of my business......
Several senior staff members told me late last year that they were spending considerable money on infrastructure, and always looking to build a sustainable club.
Appearances, which I appreciate can be deceptive, are of a considered sensible business plan where foundations are solidly and sustainably built. I have seen too many businesses spend money on a promise / unfounded optimism and not be sustainable. Without foundations chucking money at players is short term fun for long term pain, personally I would be concerned if we were spending wildly Without rest in place
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