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Post by darkbluegas on Feb 16, 2017 22:23:34 GMT
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Post by kernowtoteend on Feb 16, 2017 22:29:47 GMT
What !
5-The pasty was succulent, full of flavour. Fantastic.
Come to Cornwall and see how a REAL pasty tastes (well, so long as it is one of Anne's on the Lizard !!)
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Post by gasincider on Feb 16, 2017 22:46:27 GMT
What we've got is no future if we remain at the Mem.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 23:00:14 GMT
What ! 5-The pasty was succulent, full of flavour. Fantastic. Come to Cornwall and see how a REAL pasty tastes (well, so long as it is one of Anne's on the Lizard !!) had a really nice pasty from philps in hayle recently. Would definitely recommend
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Post by Fat Albert on Feb 16, 2017 23:10:49 GMT
I'm afraid we will definitely lose some of that atmosphere when/if we move. It is synonymous with old grounds and you can't recreate it in the new style grounds. It's everything about the place.
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Post by yattongas on Feb 16, 2017 23:26:37 GMT
I'm afraid we will definitely lose some of that atmosphere when/if we move. It is synonymous with old grounds and you can't recreate it in the new style grounds. It's everything about the place. UTG I don't agree with that , it's the fans that make an atmosphere not a stadium....new or old. The acoustics at the Mem are hardly conducive to good atmosphere. Most of the 'noise' is lost anyway due to the open nature of the ground. I think ( & hope ) it will be better at our new ground ......if and when it ever gets built.
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Post by Dr Gas on Feb 17, 2017 0:08:18 GMT
I'm afraid we will definitely lose some of that atmosphere when/if we move. It is synonymous with old grounds and you can't recreate it in the new style grounds. It's everything about the place. UTG I don't agree with that , it's the fans that make an atmosphere not a stadium....new or old. The acoustics at the Mem are hardly conducive to good atmosphere. Most of the 'noise' is lost anyway due to the open nature of the ground. I think ( & hope ) it will be better at our new ground ......if and when it ever gets built. I have season tickets to Rovers and West Ham: A lot of West Ham supporters moan about the atmosphere at the Olympic Stadium (OS) being nothing like the Boleyn but it is, at times, incredible. As yatton says, it is the fans that create the atmosphere. I hope that when (rather than if) we get the new stadium the club get it right and allow the singers to be allocated seats together. Unfortunately, the OS does lose some atmosphere because the fans that like to sing and shout have been separated, thereby diluting the atmosphere at times. BTW, the acoustics are FANTASTIC at the OS; even I can hear the announcements clearly and I am hard of hearing: So with the sensible allocation of seats, a new stadium could become immediately intimidating, as I reckon Rovers fans are even more passionate than Irons.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Feb 17, 2017 1:33:01 GMT
What's the point of this "partnership" between sporting giant and official seat of learning if we haven't got our own professor of acoustics working on enhancing crowd noises from home designated areas whilst using baffling materials and muffling techniques in and around away designated seating? Call ourselves a forward thinking outfit leaving nothing to chance? I despair!
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Post by Squiffy on Feb 17, 2017 1:38:35 GMT
I remember going to the Paralympics at the OS in 2012 (couldn't get tickets for the main event, but glad I didn't as it was truly awe inspiring what some people overcome in order to compete) and was really impressed with the atmosphere and level of noise which I thought would be lost in such a large open stadium. I must admit I was initially sceptical about the UWE design, but if the angle of the roof is right it should reflect the sound back down towards the spectators provided there's not too much absorption by the soffit. I know acoustic design is a bit of a black art, and it obviously depends on the size and enthusiasm of the crowd, but there's no reason why it couldn't be an improvement on the current state of affairs.
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Post by Fat Albert on Feb 17, 2017 5:00:07 GMT
I meant the atmosphere overall rather than the noise. Sometimes the tinpot grounds create a better more organic experience than these mega stadiums. It's one thing that worries me about climbing the football ladder. Losing the feeling I had as a kid growing up around Rovers. Not saying I don't want progress as it has benefits too, but sometimes clubs can lose what made them so special when they do.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 6:34:16 GMT
I don't agree with that , it's the fans that make an atmosphere not a stadium....new or old. The acoustics at the Mem are hardly conducive to good atmosphere. Most of the 'noise' is lost anyway due to the open nature of the ground. I think ( & hope ) it will be better at our new ground ......if and when it ever gets built. I have season tickets to Rovers and West Ham: A lot of West Ham supporters moan about the atmosphere at the Olympic Stadium (OS) being nothing like the Boleyn but it is, at times, incredible. As yatton says, it is the fans that create the atmosphere. I hope that when (rather than if) we get the new stadium the club get it right and allow the singers to be allocated seats together. Unfortunately, the OS does lose some atmosphere because the fans that like to sing and shout have been separated, thereby diluting the atmosphere at times. BTW, the acoustics are FANTASTIC at the OS; even I can hear the announcements clearly and I am hard of hearing: So with the sensible allocation of seats, a new stadium could become immediately intimidating, as I reckon Rovers fans are even more passionate than Irons. It was always Upton Park, forever. Suddenly because it was in the news a lot it's now the Bolyn ground. Wtf is that about.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 6:42:38 GMT
I meant the atmosphere overall rather than the noise. Sometimes the tinpot grounds create a better more organic experience than these mega stadiums. It's one thing that worries me about climbing the football ladder. Losing the feeling I had as a kid growing up around Rovers. Not saying I don't want progress as it has benefits too, but sometimes clubs can lose what made them so special when they do. UTG I agree. I wonder if teams will start doing pre weathered stadiums? Would be great to see a new ground but done as a proper old football ground. Safe standing, old school floodlights, corrugated tin roof, a man in a brown coat selling pies, coppers with old school uniforms and helmets, non digital boards for subs, numbers are 1-11 with no names on shirts. Refs always wear black, only black boots (or white if you are REALLY good), a brass band plays before the game. Balls are brown and not the "floaters" we use today, and the national anthem is sung on key holidays. Beer is only available in old school pint mugs wth handle or brown bottles. This is what's should be done
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Post by Dr Gas on Feb 17, 2017 6:43:42 GMT
I have season tickets to Rovers and West Ham: A lot of West Ham supporters moan about the atmosphere at the Olympic Stadium (OS) being nothing like the Boleyn but it is, at times, incredible. As yatton says, it is the fans that create the atmosphere. I hope that when (rather than if) we get the new stadium the club get it right and allow the singers to be allocated seats together. Unfortunately, the OS does lose some atmosphere because the fans that like to sing and shout have been separated, thereby diluting the atmosphere at times. BTW, the acoustics are FANTASTIC at the OS; even I can hear the announcements clearly and I am hard of hearing: So with the sensible allocation of seats, a new stadium could become immediately intimidating, as I reckon Rovers fans are even more passionate than Irons. It was always Upton Park, forever. Suddenly because it was in the news a lot it's now the Bolyn ground. Wtf is that about. It has always been known locally as the Boleyn due to the folly known as Boleyn Castle that used to be next to the ground. That is where the castle on the badge derives from.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 6:59:41 GMT
I'm afraid we will definitely lose some of that atmosphere when/if we move. It is synonymous with old grounds and you can't recreate it in the new style grounds. It's everything about the place. UTG Not true. In some cases maybe but not all. Can't believe people think the Mem creates an atmosphere? If everyone who thinks that sat in the south stand for a match, they'd realise that you can barely hear the North terrace. Also, our fans are lousy at creating an atmosphere. A bit like old Trafford last night. Man U fans are lousy whilst 3500 st Etienne made a racket all evening in a crowd of 70k.
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Post by Captain Jayho on Feb 17, 2017 7:10:10 GMT
I'm afraid we will definitely lose some of that atmosphere when/if we move. It is synonymous with old grounds and you can't recreate it in the new style grounds. It's everything about the place. UTG Not true. In some cases maybe but not all. Can't believe people think the Mem creates an atmosphere? If everyone who thinks that sat in the south stand for a match, they'd realise that you can barely hear the North terrace. Also, our fans are lousy at creating an atmosphere. A bit like old Trafford last night. Man U fans are lousy whilst 3500 st Etienne made a racket all evening in a crowd of 70k. This really is your pet topic isn't it...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 8:41:09 GMT
Fact. The Liberty stadium is a similar design as the UWE with a 20k capacity. Having been to a few games there recently I can confirm it has a fantastic atmosphere and when the place is rocking and rolling albeit with its regular full house capacity, it far outweighs the roar of the faithful at the Mem. I feel quite sure once we are installed in the UWE all thoughts of a soul less bowl will be forgotten. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 8:58:27 GMT
What ! 5-The pasty was succulent, full of flavour. Fantastic. Come to Cornwall and see how a REAL pasty tastes (well, so long as it is one of Anne's on the Lizard !!) had a really nice pasty from philps in hayle recently. Would definitely recommend Looks like we will have Plymouth as an away day next season. Challenge anyone to find a better pasty than an Ivor Dewdney!
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Post by wiaww on Feb 17, 2017 9:51:37 GMT
I'm afraid we will definitely lose some of that atmosphere when/if we move. It is synonymous with old grounds and you can't recreate it in the new style grounds. It's everything about the place. UTG Not true. In some cases maybe but not all. Can't believe people think the Mem creates an atmosphere? If everyone who thinks that sat in the south stand for a match, they'd realise that you can barely hear the North terrace. Also, our fans are lousy at creating an atmosphere. A bit like old Trafford last night. Man U fans are lousy whilst 3500 st Etienne made a racket all evening in a crowd of 70k. I’ve often wondered if this is the case. Sometimes I come away from the Thatchers with ears ringing and no voice thinking that the atmosphere has been unreal, only to read the musings of an away fan who “barely heard a peep”. It makes sense that the sound from the North Terrace doesn’t carry the way the ground is so exposed. The East side of the Mem is 90% uncovered and the only roofing on that side is high and open-sided. Similarly the West side of the ground is mostly uncovered with the terracing in the West Stand largely open to the elements. There’s a charm to the Mem, especially for the under 30’s like myself who have grown up watching Rovers there, and last Tuesday I was thinking how much I’ll miss it if/when we move to the UWE. However it is not fit for purpose and I pull my hair out thinking about how much revenue the club misses out on because of inadequate facilities and a new stadium really is essential if we’re to keep moving forward. I completely understand concerns about moving to a “soulless bowl” and we as fans have to hope (and perhaps ensure) that the UWE isn’t one of those. I would like to think that WAQ and co. will be liaising with supporters to make certain that any new ground is as fan friendly as possible. I am fairly certain they will be but if they’re not we need to make sure our voices are heard.
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Post by scoobydoogas on Feb 17, 2017 9:57:31 GMT
"" All in all, I really enjoyed the experience, and the combination of passionate fans, interesting stadium and solid pasty ""
Solid pasty?? I see the vendors are still selling last week's reheated pasties. I seem to end up with one of those most times :-(
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 10:29:42 GMT
Not true. In some cases maybe but not all. Can't believe people think the Mem creates an atmosphere? If everyone who thinks that sat in the south stand for a match, they'd realise that you can barely hear the North terrace. Also, our fans are lousy at creating an atmosphere. A bit like old Trafford last night. Man U fans are lousy whilst 3500 st Etienne made a racket all evening in a crowd of 70k. This really is your pet topic isn't it... Any topic where I disagree with the points really. The atmosphere one just keeps raising its head, probably because fans like to think they are better than they really are.
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