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Post by althepirate on Mar 14, 2017 18:51:25 GMT
So which is it then, EH's own choice or his agent thinks he'd be better off moving away didn't Shaqs Hunter also think he could do better elsewhere? ... Alfie Santos has managed to get into the Eastleigh side. Yeah but only as their mascot
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 19:04:02 GMT
So which is it then, EH's own choice or his agent thinks he'd be better off moving away didn't Shaqs Hunter also think he could do better elsewhere? ... Alfie Santos has managed to get into the Eastleigh side. well I didn't know that. Has he signed on a permanent Antonio?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 19:09:18 GMT
Just because he doesn't run around all over the pitch does not mean he isn't trying, just doing what the manager wants him to do not what the fans want.As was once said every team needs pianists and piano pushers,i feel we have enough piano pushers in the side and apart from Lines and Montano and possibly Clarke we have few pianists.Its getting the balance right,but unfortunately for Harrison every move,decision either on or off the pitch is analysed on forums to the nth degree,as has happened to numerous players over the years,Josh Lowe,Steve Phillips,Lewis Haldane to name but a few and in the end the players left the club,which is pretty odds on what Harrison will do in the summer Are you suggesting Darrell Clarke instructed Harrison, a striker, not to score, in all but 4 league matches this season? Don't be facetious you know full well what i meant
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Mar 14, 2017 19:59:03 GMT
Let's put this in perspective I'm no great fan of Ellis and I'd rather he scored one goal in each of four games than four in one then go missing for a month He's not the best but we have a bit to be grateful for, so we should support him when he's on the pitch which thankfully isn't too often lately And if we are going to talk about someone being given too many chances I'd opine that the "crimes" of Ellis Harrison pale against someone like Nile Ranger He's gas. For better or worse, he might yet knock in the goal that gets us in the playoffs ? he has already scored the vital goal in the play off final. Sammy Igoes name is constantly banded about on here as being "massive" or "important" but how massive or important was that volley that hit the roof of the net two years ago? The clubs future was at stake. Anyway once a scapegoat always a scapegoat I like the Igoe comparison. To put it another way, Andy Rammell is seen as a gas legend for 4 goals in 3 games which played a massive part in keeping the Gas in the football league. Ellis scored 7 goals in the last 7 games of our conference season, playing a massive part in regaining our league status, and it seems to be forgotten by many. Ellis should never have to buy a drink in North Bristol again, in my opinion.
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Post by toddy1953 on Mar 14, 2017 20:05:11 GMT
Just because he doesn't run around all over the pitch does not mean he isn't trying,just doing what the manager wants him to do not what the fans want.As was once said every team needs pianists and piano pushers,i feel we have enough piano pushers in the side and apart from Lines and Montano and possibly Clarke we have few pianists.Its getting the balance right,but unfortunately for Harrison every move,decision either on or off the pitch is analysed on forums to the nth degree,as has happened to numerous players over the years,Josh Lowe,Steve Phillips,Lewis Haldane to name but a few and in the end the players left the club,which is pretty odds on what Harrison will do in the summer Well DC says he wants desire, application & willingness to win, before fitness & after fitness then technical ability. After the overall performance of the team in the last 3 seasons, I wouldn't argue with his theory. As for Ellis, he is inconsistent & if he can't adapt to how DC wants him to play then he is probably better off looking elsewhere. I would like him to stay but would wish him all the best. Players who use social media & invite friends & fans to follow them, should either think twice before posting images & comments, or grow a pair - if Ellis is leaving due to a few fans having a pop on here or on Facebook or wherever then I don't think he has the desire or application DC is looking for
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 14, 2017 20:31:08 GMT
Alfie Santos has managed to get into the Eastleigh side. well I didn't know that. Has he signed on a permanent Antonio? Just a loan, I believe. Actually, he's gone back: www.dcfc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/under-23s-wideman-santos-back-from-eastleigh-loan-3457593.aspxDerby County Under 23s winger Alefe Santos has returned from his loan spell at National League side Eastleigh. The 21-year-old joined the Spitfires on loan until January last month but is now back with the Rams. During his time at Eastleigh Santos made a total of five appearances, four of which came as a substitute. He has featured regularly for the Rams’ Under 23s – previously known as Under 21s until this summer - since joining from Bristol Rovers in July 2014. Santos’ single first-team appearance for Derby came in August 2014 as a substitute in their EFL Cup Second Round tie at home to Charlton Athletic, while he had a loan spell at Notts County in Sky Bet League 1 in January 2015.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 20:40:55 GMT
Just because he doesn't run around all over the pitch does not mean he isn't trying,just doing what the manager wants him to do not what the fans want.As was once said every team needs pianists and piano pushers,i feel we have enough piano pushers in the side and apart from Lines and Montano and possibly Clarke we have few pianists.Its getting the balance right,but unfortunately for Harrison every move,decision either on or off the pitch is analysed on forums to the nth degree,as has happened to numerous players over the years,Josh Lowe,Steve Phillips,Lewis Haldane to name but a few and in the end the players left the club,which is pretty odds on what Harrison will do in the summer Well DC says he wants desire, application & willingness to win, before fitness & after fitness then technical ability. After the overall performance of the team in the last 3 seasons, I wouldn't argue with his theory. As for Ellis, he is inconsistent & if he can't adapt to how DC wants him to play then he is probably better off looking elsewhere. I would like him to stay but would wish him all the best. Players who use social media & invite friends & fans to follow them, should either think twice before posting images & comments, or grow a pair - if Ellis is leaving due to a few fans having a pop on here or on Facebook or wherever then I don't think he has the desire or application DC is looking for Ellis doesn't have any social media accounts which fans can access or comment on.
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Post by toddy1953 on Mar 14, 2017 21:52:21 GMT
Well DC says he wants desire, application & willingness to win, before fitness & after fitness then technical ability. After the overall performance of the team in the last 3 seasons, I wouldn't argue with his theory. As for Ellis, he is inconsistent & if he can't adapt to how DC wants him to play then he is probably better off looking elsewhere. I would like him to stay but would wish him all the best. Players who use social media & invite friends & fans to follow them, should either think twice before posting images & comments, or grow a pair - if Ellis is leaving due to a few fans having a pop on here or on Facebook or wherever then I don't think he has the desire or application DC is looking for Ellis doesn't have any social media accounts which fans can access or comment on. Stand corrected on that point
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 22:41:31 GMT
From what I hear Ellis will leave in the summer, his own choice,his agent thinks he would be better off moving away from Bristol,and I must admit after reading the comments on here I agree with him So which is it then, EH's own choice or his agent thinks he'd be better off moving away didn't Shaqs Hunter also think he could do better elsewhere? Let's be honest who's going to sign him, probably a Div 2 side at best, if so, is he really going to improve himself leaving Rovers? Although if he does intend moving I guess the last thing he wants now is to be offered a contract by the club or we could then demand a transfer fee, perhaps that explains why he's been so poor post Northampton? Hate to break the news to you but if he wants to leave the club he wont sign a new contract.
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Post by CrispPusher on Mar 15, 2017 11:06:32 GMT
Are you suggesting Darrell Clarke instructed Harrison, a striker, not to score, in all but 4 league matches this season? Don't be facetious you know full well what i meant Sorry, but no I do not. Sounds like you're blaming Darrell Clarke for Harrison's failure.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 15:08:33 GMT
Well DC says he wants desire, application & willingness to win, before fitness & after fitness then technical ability. After the overall performance of the team in the last 3 seasons, I wouldn't argue with his theory. As for Ellis, he is inconsistent & if he can't adapt to how DC wants him to play then he is probably better off looking elsewhere. I would like him to stay but would wish him all the best. Players who use social media & invite friends & fans to follow them, should either think twice before posting images & comments, or grow a pair - if Ellis is leaving due to a few fans having a pop on here or on Facebook or wherever then I don't think he has the desire or application DC is looking for Ellis doesn't have any social media accounts which fans can access or comment on. That is completely immaterial to some,as long as someone puts something on any social media network and his neme is somewhere on it then he is automatically culpable and should be tarred and feathered and thrown out of the club
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 15:11:40 GMT
Sorry, but no I do not. Sounds like you're blaming Darrell Clarke for Harrison's failure. I didn't realise that any comment has to be explained in words of 1 syllable to some.I said he was playing to how the manager wanted him to play in other words he is used as a target man,never did I infer,,, do you know what that means?, that DC had instructed him not to score
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 15, 2017 17:54:20 GMT
So which is it then, EH's own choice or his agent thinks he'd be better off moving away didn't Shaqs Hunter also think he could do better elsewhere? Let's be honest who's going to sign him, probably a Div 2 side at best, if so, is he really going to improve himself leaving Rovers? Although if he does intend moving I guess the last thing he wants now is to be offered a contract by the club or we could then demand a transfer fee, perhaps that explains why he's been so poor post Northampton? Hate to break the news to you but if he wants to leave the club he wont sign a new contract. He doesn't have to sign a contract, the club simply has to offer him one on similar terms to his present contract to then be able seek a transfer fee if he signs for another club, assuming he'll be still under 24 when his present contract with Rovers expires.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 19:31:12 GMT
No need for any striker to leave...LJ,RG or EH. Once DC has signed a couple of strikers a grade higher than what Rovers already have he may look to letting one or two go next January to bring in a couple more perhaps[?] If you intend to play two upfront then you need five strikers on the books. This is what Rovers had in Judas,Easter,Gaffney,Harrison,James. So perhaps expect an experienced older striker and a younger striker with some goalscoring behind him at lower levels.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 23:20:11 GMT
Hate to break the news to you but if he wants to leave the club he wont sign a new contract. He doesn't have to sign a contract, the club simply has to offer him one on similar terms to his present contract to then be able seek a transfer fee if he signs for another club, assuming he'll be still under 24 when his present contract with Rovers expires. Thanks for that your totally correct.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 7:08:21 GMT
No need for any striker to leave...LJ,RG or EH. Once DC has signed a couple of strikers a grade higher than what Rovers already have he may look to letting one or two go next January to bring in a couple more perhaps[?] If you intend to play two upfront then you need five strikers on the books. This is what Rovers had in Judas,Easter,Gaffney,Harrison,James. So perhaps expect an experienced older striker and a younger striker with some goalscoring behind him at lower levels. James isn't our player. He won't be here next season, unless he suddenly bangs in goals for the rest of this season.
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