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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 20:05:31 GMT
Four pages of thread and I don't think anyone has identified realistic targets to fill the striker role...just shows getting a brace of strikers this summer who can score goals will not be easy. Who can we realistically afford who is likely to knock say 15 goals a season? There used to be a guy who was on the old official forum who had reams of Intel on non league players. I think he got so much stick that he jailed on and had enough. I was always a reader rather than a poster but that guy had phenomenal knowledge or it certainly seemed that way Think it was "gashead wes",people used to say he was just reading stats and looking at youtube clips etc .
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 20:16:51 GMT
Four pages of thread and I don't think anyone has identified realistic targets to fill the striker role...just shows getting a brace of strikers this summer who can score goals will not be easy. Who can we realistically afford who is likely to knock say 15 goals a season? Strange thing to say when loads of players names have been put forward? But your right in some ways. Take paddy madden at scunthorpe,great striker right? only 11 goals though this season in a team better than rovers just ahead of gaffney and harrison and there are others similar to him. You can look non league at miller or tarpey or league 2 with akinde but can they cut the mustard at league 1? This season i liked charlie whyke at bradford,cox and ranger at southend,the massive striker at charlton and some others like henderson at rochdale but its going to be bloody hard work or lots of wages to get a top striker at this level for next season imo.
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Post by knowall on May 7, 2017 7:46:37 GMT
Ellington signed from Walton and Hersham and Barry Hayles from Stevenage - both of those clubs were then in the southern counties league - but I think you miss the point McQueen and Tarpey are young players verging on breaking into the league proper - as were most of our current squad Stevenage were In the conference when Rovers signed Hayles but I think you are missing the point. We need a proven striker to keep the forward momentum going to replace Taylor properly not an unproven novice who 'might' be a hidden gem. The same goes for the goalkeeping position if Lumley doesn't return. Not sure how you evaluate 'proven scorer' - in my book both Tarpey and McQueen are - but sounds like you want the club to spend money? or do you know a 'proven scorer' who is virtually free?
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 8:02:40 GMT
Here's my starter for ten (of the 10 he's looking for) that I don't think will cost a lot of money between them - not sure if any have been mentioned before:
Matt Godden - Stevenage - Striker out of Contract Marcus Maddison - Peterborough - wide player - transfer listed Liam Sercombe - Oxford - midfield - transfer listed Zander Diamond - Northamoton - centre back - player of the year - released
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Post by Cantankerous Gas on May 7, 2017 10:27:03 GMT
Here's my starter for ten (of the 10 he's looking for) that I don't think will cost a lot of money between them - not sure if any have been mentioned before: Matt Godden - Stevenage - Striker out of Contract Marcus Maddison - Peterborough - wide player - transfer listed Liam Sercombe - Oxford - midfield - transfer listed Zander Diamond - Northamoton - centre back - player of the year - released Marcus Maddison 'won't cost a lot of money'. He's got a £1.5m buy-out clause! He'll go to a Championship team. The others are more realistic. Godden might be worth a gamble.
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Post by pirate on May 7, 2017 11:01:18 GMT
Ryan Bennett (released) Paul Anderson (released) Cameron McGeehan (out of contract, fee required) David Wheeler (out of contract) James Collins (fee)
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 11:48:17 GMT
Not sure how you evaluate 'proven scorer' - in my book both Tarpey and McQueen are - but sounds like you want the club to spend money? or do you know a 'proven scorer' who is virtually free? You have once again named those two players from the Eighth tier of English football. Five divisions below Rovers. Proven in Sunday league football yes but not Football League. As for wanting Rovers to spend money to consolidate the amazing progression Clarke has made with Rovers, why is that such a sinful request? Normal people would find it obvious and given he will have a budget plainly obvious. But you are the Knowall, obviously. I'm so relieved Higgs never sold out to you Knowall we would be right in the Sh1t by now. I respectfully suggest you change your name it's working against you.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 7, 2017 12:02:13 GMT
The club had £300K from selling MT plus possibly the Chelsea money still haven't been spent, there's also bits of transfer fee money from selling the Academy players, in addition you'd hope our wealthy owners might find DC some extra funds even sticking to their "evolution" model.
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Post by long john silver on May 7, 2017 12:28:24 GMT
From what ive heard the lack of spending has been more down to Darrel Clarke than wael . He doesn't like spending what he feels is over the odds.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 12:33:39 GMT
Here's my starter for ten (of the 10 he's looking for) that I don't think will cost a lot of money between them - not sure if any have been mentioned before: Matt Godden - Stevenage - Striker out of Contract Marcus Maddison - Peterborough - wide player - transfer listed Liam Sercombe - Oxford - midfield - transfer listed Zander Diamond - Northamoton - centre back - player of the year - released Marcus Maddison 'won't cost a lot of money'. He's got a £1.5m buy-out clause! He'll go to a Championship team. The others are more realistic. Godden might be worth a gamble. I didn't realise that about Maddison - but if we have the aspiration of getting into the Championship in two years time or so is this the type of player we should be looking at? At least throwing our hat in the ring and showing some intent. I feel the really good teams (relatively speaking) have 3/4 game changers - the players that really make the difference - we probably have one at the moment. At some time we are going to have bite the bullet and really invest in the team - if we are spending £40/£50M on a state of the art stadium is it not unreasonable to think that the owners should be prepared to spend maybe just 10% or so of that figure to build the nucleus of a team fit to move into that stadium and hold its own. It's a bit like having a lovely posh house with crap furniture in it. It will take a long time for the new Acadamy to bear fruit - but it's needs investment not just off the pitch but on it as well particularly with regard to the first team. If we are staying at the Mem long term I can understand the reasoning of always looking at the cheap option - not anymore particularly IF we are moving out in a couple of years - maybe rose tinting but 'I Have A Dream' - I have to.
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Post by knowall on May 7, 2017 12:53:33 GMT
Not sure how you evaluate 'proven scorer' - in my book both Tarpey and McQueen are - but sounds like you want the club to spend money? or do you know a 'proven scorer' who is virtually free? You have once again named those two players from the Eighth tier of English football. Five divisions below Rovers. Proven in Sunday league football yes but not Football League. As for wanting Rovers to spend money to consolidate the amazing progression Clarke has made with Rovers, why is that such a sinful request? Normal people would find it obvious and given he will have a budget plainly obvious. But you are the Knowall, obviously. McQueen plays for Ebbsfleet (Ebbsfleet United Football Club is an English football club based in Northfleet, Kent, that competes in the National League South, the sixth tier of English football.) Wiki Tarpey plays for Maidenhead (Maidenhead United Football Club is a semi-professional English football club in Maidenhead, Berkshire. They currently play in the National League, the fifth tier of English football.) Wiki and you might be interested in www.just-football.com/2016/12/dave-tarpey-cheltenham-leyton-orient-barnet-wycombe-lead-chase-non-league-ace/and www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/595662/Maidenhead-Dave-Tarpey-transfer-news-Charlton-Leyton-Orient-Stevenage-Gillinghamand www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39256896The football league, championship and Premiership is abound with strikers who were recently in non league - money is not always the answer - it is value that counts and I would suggest that is something DC identifies with and I believe that is in tune with our owners
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on May 7, 2017 17:10:30 GMT
I've been following the Gas since 1987. In those 30 years I can only remember us buying a couple of strikers who were anywhere near proven goal strikers at the level we were at, who went on to be a success for us. Those would be John Taylor and Rickie Lambert. Of those two, Lambert had only had one prolific season at Rochdale. We've had a much greater success rate with getting strikers from a lower level and progressing them, and I think DC will go down this route again.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 18:11:32 GMT
Here's my starter for ten (of the 10 he's looking for) that I don't think will cost a lot of money between them - not sure if any have been mentioned before: Matt Godden - Stevenage - Striker out of Contract Marcus Maddison - Peterborough - wide player - transfer listed Liam Sercombe - Oxford - midfield - transfer listed Zander Diamond - Northamoton - centre back - player of the year - released Some good players listed here...
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Post by Marshy on May 7, 2017 18:17:05 GMT
I've been following the Gas since 1987. In those 30 years I can only remember us buying a couple of strikers who were anywhere near proven goal strikers at the level we were at, who went on to be a success for us. Those would be John Taylor and Rickie Lambert. Of those two, Lambert had only had one prolific season at Rochdale. We've had a much greater success rate with getting strikers from a lower level and progressing them, and I think DC will go down this route again. I remember us spending shitloads on Micky Adams from Plymouth and he was sh**e! We might as well have got a donkey of Weston beach. I'm sure someone will correct me but I thought it was about a quarter of a million?
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Post by Topper Gas on May 7, 2017 19:27:51 GMT
You have once again named those two players from the Eighth tier of English football. Five divisions below Rovers. Proven in Sunday league football yes but not Football League. As for wanting Rovers to spend money to consolidate the amazing progression Clarke has made with Rovers, why is that such a sinful request? Normal people would find it obvious and given he will have a budget plainly obvious. But you are the Knowall, obviously. McQueen plays for Ebbsfleet (Ebbsfleet United Football Club is an English football club based in Northfleet, Kent, that competes in the National League South, the sixth tier of English football.) Wiki Tarpey plays for Maidenhead (Maidenhead United Football Club is a semi-professional English football club in Maidenhead, Berkshire. They currently play in the National League, the fifth tier of English football.) Wiki and you might be interested in www.just-football.com/2016/12/dave-tarpey-cheltenham-leyton-orient-barnet-wycombe-lead-chase-non-league-ace/and www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/595662/Maidenhead-Dave-Tarpey-transfer-news-Charlton-Leyton-Orient-Stevenage-Gillinghamand www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39256896The football league, championship and Premiership is abound with strikers who were recently in non league - money is not always the answer - it is value that counts and I would suggest that is something DC identifies with and I believe that is in tune with our owners Dave Tarpey, 28, seriously, you're hoping DC goes out and signs a player in his late 20's who is presently playing in a league below the old Conference and, I assume, has never played league football. As far as Godden not sure he seems to have only signed a 2 year contract in December. mobile.stevenagefc.com/news/article/2016-17/matt-godden-signs-new-contract-3443002.aspx
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Post by pirate on May 7, 2017 19:42:07 GMT
Corey Whitely could be a good option. Can play on either wing or as a striker. Scored 16 goals for Dagenham and was named their player of the year.
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Post by knowall on May 7, 2017 19:44:24 GMT
Tarpey is a proven goal scorer - maybe not in the league - but you may have noticed he is of interest to other league clubs. And we do have numerous previous examples of bringing on non-league strikers - and 28 is not to old - (ask Cureton) As for Godden I have never mentioned him - have a go at someone else on that one!
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Post by warehamgas on May 7, 2017 19:46:03 GMT
I've been following the Gas since 1987. In those 30 years I can only remember us buying a couple of strikers who were anywhere near proven goal strikers at the level we were at, who went on to be a success for us. Those would be John Taylor and Rickie Lambert. Of those two, Lambert had only had one prolific season at Rochdale. We've had a much greater success rate with getting strikers from a lower level and progressing them, and I think DC will go down this route again. I remember us spending shitloads on Micky Adams from Plymouth and he was sh**e! We might as well have got a donkey of Weston beach. I'm sure someone will correct me but I thought it was about a quarter of a million? Correct, it was £250,000. And I thought he was, he played like one but just not as quick! UTG!
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Post by spiess1 on May 7, 2017 19:56:31 GMT
Marshfield, you remember us signing Micky Adams. Really?
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Post by alvestongas on May 7, 2017 20:06:26 GMT
Ryan Bennett (released) Paul Anderson (released) Cameron McGeehan (out of contract, fee required) David Wheeler (out of contract) James Collins (fee) I understand David Wheeler lives in Bristol & if Exeter don't make it through the play offs it's a distinct possibility.
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