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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 11:15:39 GMT
As much as I hate the man and it may be an unpopular view, but their upturn in fortune has coincided with the snake starting up front alongside tampon. There's no chance he'll be sold and there's no chance of a sell on fee. 2 goals in 15 appearances. He won't make the grade longer term at that level. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 11:17:54 GMT
You're kidding yourselves if you think they'll sell him; he's a huge part of the reason they stayed up! Since he joined them their form is: W - 7 D - 5 L - 6 Results where he's been involved at all: W - 6 D - 4 L - 5 Form where he's started: W - 5 D - 2 L - 2 2 goals in 15 isn't great, yes he missed some sitters, but they are a better side with Taylor starting - just like we were - and unfortunately Dwarf Small realised that and as such I'd put money on him starting their first game next season. Huge part? You've contradicted yourself there with his goal ratio. They were high flying at the start of the season without Taylor so to suggest he's the reason for the upturn is off the mark IMO. |
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Post by socrates on May 8, 2017 11:22:38 GMT
I wouldn't have a clue if they're a better side with or without him and i couldn't give a flying f**k but I'm glad there's a sell on clause.
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Post by wiaww on May 8, 2017 11:29:47 GMT
You're kidding yourselves if you think they'll sell him; he's a huge part of the reason they stayed up! Since he joined them their form is: W - 7 D - 5 L - 6 Results where he's been involved at all: W - 6 D - 4 L - 5 Form where he's started: W - 5 D - 2 L - 2 2 goals in 15 isn't great, yes he missed some sitters, but they are a better side with Taylor starting - just like we were - and unfortunately Dwarf Small realised that and as such I'd put money on him starting their first game next season. Huge part? You've contradicted yourself there with his goal ratio. They were high flying at the start of the season without Taylor so to suggest he's the reason for the upturn is off the mark IMO. No I haven't. There's more to his game than just scoring goals. Taylor is a far better player than most people are willing to give him credit for. There's something(!) about the bloke that just seems to rub people up the wrong way - even as one of the greatest goalscorers in our history and a central figure in back to back promotions and still many people weren't particularly fond of him - but he is a bloody good footballer and good enough for the Championship. He'll still be there in August and he'll score goals for them. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 11:36:22 GMT
Huge part? You've contradicted yourself there with his goal ratio. They were high flying at the start of the season without Taylor so to suggest he's the reason for the upturn is off the mark IMO. No I haven't. There's more to his game than just scoring goals. Taylor is a far better player than most people are willing to give him credit for. There's something(!) about the bloke that just seems to rub people up the wrong way - even as one of the greatest goalscorers in our history and a central figure in back to back promotions and still many people weren't particularly fond of him - but he is a bloody good footballer and good enough for the Championship. He'll still be there in August and he'll score goals for them. Calm down. He was a decent cog in a very effective machine DC put together. Obviously he's nowhere near good enough to be put into the same bracket of Hayles, Stewart, Lambert, Roberts etc who went on to score goals in the PL. 'Bloody good footballer' is massively overdoing it. I suspect he'll be there in August but will need to step up and improve his goal return given Abraham*'s departure. If he doesn't, he won't hang around at that level for long. *An actually good Championship striker. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 11:38:15 GMT
No I haven't. There's more to his game than just scoring goals. Taylor is a far better player than most people are willing to give him credit for. There's something(!) about the bloke that just seems to rub people up the wrong way - even as one of the greatest goalscorers in our history and a central figure in back to back promotions and still many people weren't particularly fond of him - but he is a bloody good footballer and good enough for the Championship. He'll still be there in August and he'll score goals for them. Calm down. He was a decent cog in a very effective machine DC put together. Obviously he's nowhere near good enough to be put into the same bracket of Hayles, Stewart, Lambert, Roberts etc who went on to score goals in the PL. 'Bloody good footballer' is massively overdoing it. I suspect he'll be there in August but will need to step up and improve his goal return given Abraham*'s departure. If he doesn't, he won't hang around at that level for long. *An actually good Championship striker. Spot on. Also willing to take up wiaww on his offer of putting money on the snake starting their first game next season! |
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Post by baggins on May 8, 2017 11:40:50 GMT
Forget him he's gone.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on May 8, 2017 11:43:35 GMT
There's something(!) about the bloke that just seems to rub people up the wrong way Yeah, he's a lady garden. |
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Post by Marshy on May 8, 2017 11:49:52 GMT
There's something(!) about the bloke that just seems to rub people up the wrong way Yeah, he's a lady garden. Hes not that useful! |
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Post by wiaww on May 8, 2017 11:54:56 GMT
No I haven't. There's more to his game than just scoring goals. Taylor is a far better player than most people are willing to give him credit for. There's something(!) about the bloke that just seems to rub people up the wrong way - even as one of the greatest goalscorers in our history and a central figure in back to back promotions and still many people weren't particularly fond of him - but he is a bloody good footballer and good enough for the Championship. He'll still be there in August and he'll score goals for them. Calm down. He was a decent cog in a very effective machine DC put together. Obviously he's nowhere near good enough to be put into the same bracket of Hayles, Stewart, Lambert, Roberts etc who went on to score goals in the PL. 'Bloody good footballer' is massively overdoing it. I suspect he'll be there in August but will need to step up and improve his goal return given Abraham*'s departure. If he doesn't, he won't hang around at that level for long. *An actually good Championship striker. I never said he was a patch on the aforementioned, but for Rovers he has a better goalscoring record than any of them. Say what you want about the difference in levels but you can only score goals at the level you're at. Yet people never really took to him here (pre-Jan 31st, obviously not a popular figure now...) and I think that clouds people's perception of how good his all round game is. Of course nothing is certain but I really think that he'll score for them in the Championship given a decent run of games. |
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Post by wiaww on May 8, 2017 11:56:42 GMT
Calm down. He was a decent cog in a very effective machine DC put together. Obviously he's nowhere near good enough to be put into the same bracket of Hayles, Stewart, Lambert, Roberts etc who went on to score goals in the PL. 'Bloody good footballer' is massively overdoing it. I suspect he'll be there in August but will need to step up and improve his goal return given Abraham*'s departure. If he doesn't, he won't hang around at that level for long. *An actually good Championship striker. Spot on. Also willing to take up wiaww on his offer of putting money on the snake starting their first game next season! Fiver to the FFS? Unless you're prepared to offer me a price... |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 12:03:18 GMT
I remember saying on the forum in the summer that he wouldn't even come into my top 10 Rovers strikers, now he doesn't even come into the top 100.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on May 8, 2017 12:16:36 GMT
I have done extensive analysis of Bristol Sports Mens Soccer Division and I can confirm that Pre Twatty Failure they were sh**. Since he joined them they are sh**.
So there you have it. You can't argue with those kind of findings.
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Post by wiaww on May 8, 2017 12:17:38 GMT
I remember saying on the forum in the summer that he wouldn't even come into my top 10 Rovers strikers, now he doesn't even come into the top 100. This is what I mean; people just didn't like him. As of the summer he'd scored 45 in 91 - a phenomenal record and one of, if not the best of any striker in the past 20 or 30 years. Anyone else banging them in at that rate would have been hero worshiped. |
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Post by Marshy on May 8, 2017 12:22:24 GMT
I remember saying on the forum in the summer that he wouldn't even come into my top 10 Rovers strikers, now he doesn't even come into the top 100. This is what I mean; people just didn't like him. As of the summer he'd scored 45 in 91 - a phenomenal record and one of, if not the best of any striker in the past 20 or 30 years. Anyone else banging them in at that rate would have been hero worshiped. FAKE NEWS; Tbone loved him. |
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Post by peterparker on May 8, 2017 12:24:02 GMT
You're kidding yourselves if you think they'll sell him; he's a huge part of the reason they stayed up! Since he joined them their form is: W - 7 D - 5 L - 6 Results where he's been involved at all: W - 6 D - 4 L - 5 Form where he's started: W - 5 D - 2 L - 2 2 goals in 15 isn't great, yes he missed some sitters, but they are a better side with Taylor starting - just like we were - and unfortunately Dwarf Small realised that and as such I'd put money on him starting their first game next season. Huge part? You've contradicted yourself there with his goal ratio. They were high flying at the start of the season without Taylor so to suggest he's the reason for the upturn is off the mark IMO. more to his game than just scoring goals though. He is a good footballer with good control and vision. I saw him set up at least 4 goals in those games as well |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 12:26:17 GMT
I remember saying on the forum in the summer that he wouldn't even come into my top 10 Rovers strikers, now he doesn't even come into the top 100. This is what I mean; people just didn't like him. As of the summer he'd scored 45 in 91 - a phenomenal record and one of, if not the best of any striker in the past 20 or 30 years. Anyone else banging them in at that rate would have been hero worshiped.
Due to a couple of mutual friends I have met him a few times and he has always seemed a bit of a bellend, not much conversation in him either from what I remember.
I don't think there was that connection that fans may have had with other strikers, but certainly even before he went to City if I thought of my favourite strikers he wouldn't even come into my thoughts until I reached about 15, which like you said is astounding given his goalscoring exploits.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 12:28:50 GMT
Huge part? You've contradicted yourself there with his goal ratio. They were high flying at the start of the season without Taylor so to suggest he's the reason for the upturn is off the mark IMO. more to his game than just scoring goals though. He is a good footballer with good control and vision. I saw him set up at least 4 goals in those games as well
That's good, hopefully they will get in a dud to replace Tammy and he and Taylor can create lots of chances for each other to miss.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 8, 2017 12:29:35 GMT
Seems posters on here are contradicting themselves as on the one hand they are saying he should have waited until the summer as he would have had the pick of any Championship side but on the other he's not good enough for C1ty. Let's face facts he was a proven Div 1 goalscorer so the next level was the Championship, as far as the likes of Hayles and co I doubt many of them would even get a chance in the Premiership now so their own level would have also been the Championship.
It was all underhand but C1ty got a potentially decent Championship striker for a bargain price. A bit like P'boro seem to have done getting Miller.
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on May 8, 2017 12:32:03 GMT
Nobody was prepared to spend big money whilst he was successful with the Gas, so that's not likely to change following an average stint over on the Dark Side.
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