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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 6:38:29 GMT
3 miles from the Mem near Filton, Stapleton, Frenchay, Bradley Stoke, Stoke Park, - bus and train transport from North, south east and west and heliport too - parking at UWE not exactly near nowhere? as for design - modern, airy, capacity, (but you prefer the Mem?) Name 3 pubs nearby ? & yes, I prefer the vicinity of the mem. It's become home for me and the glos Rd is great for choice of watering holes Yes the mem does have surrounding business's that football fans like and also use. It was mentioned on here that the queen vic was closing down...not sure if this is true or not , but , for arguments sake....two questions. 1/ if the pubs around the mem all slowly closed down would you stop going to watch Rovers ? 2/ Would the closing of the pubs have a positive or negative or no effect on the business that is BRFC ?
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Post by plymouthgas on Jun 4, 2017 8:56:21 GMT
3 miles from the Mem near Filton, Stapleton, Frenchay, Bradley Stoke, Stoke Park, - bus and train transport from North, south east and west and heliport too - parking at UWE not exactly near nowhere? as for design - modern, airy, capacity, (but you prefer the Mem?) Name 3 pubs nearby ? & yes, I prefer the vicinity of the mem. It's become home for me and the glos Rd is great for choice of watering holes but having all these pubs close by is probably a negative for the mem! If there were no pubs nearby, fans would be 'forced' to use facilities at the stadium (more money into the club). Turnstiles could be opened earlier to allow fans into the concourses earlier to use the facilities, if they didnt want to use the club bars.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Jun 4, 2017 9:29:08 GMT
Name 3 pubs nearby ? & yes, I prefer the vicinity of the mem. It's become home for me and the glos Rd is great for choice of watering holes but having all these pubs close by is probably a negative for the mem! If there were no pubs nearby, fans would be 'forced' to use facilities at the stadium (more money into the club). Turnstiles could be opened earlier to allow fans into the concourses earlier to use the facilities, if they didnt want to use the club bars. Your reply here shows that pubs are either not important or a non existent part of your match day. Drinking inside Stadiums on concrete concourses from plastic glasses is sh**. The Gloucester Rd DEFINITELY adds to the fun of the day for a lot of people and has a positive impact on our attendances.
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Post by plymouthgas on Jun 4, 2017 9:33:34 GMT
but having all these pubs close by is probably a negative for the mem! If there were no pubs nearby, fans would be 'forced' to use facilities at the stadium (more money into the club). Turnstiles could be opened earlier to allow fans into the concourses earlier to use the facilities, if they didnt want to use the club bars. Your reply here shows that pubs are either not important or a non existent part of your match day. Drinking inside Stadiums on concrete concourses from plastic glasses is sh**. The Gloucester Rd DEFINITELY adds to the fun of the day for a lot of people and has a positive impact on our attendances. i do use pubs around the ground. Just pointing out that financially, no competition would be better for the club.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 9:36:40 GMT
The Mem is obviously a better location, its relatively central in Bristol and has Gloucester Rd next door.
However, while its a fact that a stadium could not be built anywhere in and around built up areas of Bristol, there's no other choice. Mem just isn't suitable for anything above L1.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 9:43:21 GMT
At what stage is it too late and we can panic? Is there a plan B ready to go?
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Post by gasstrictband on Jun 4, 2017 10:04:45 GMT
Plan B, copy Liverpool FC , buy up all the house's surrounding the MEM build a magnificent Stadium , now that would really make a statement of intent.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jun 4, 2017 10:09:22 GMT
The Mem will never be able to accommodate 18k+ crowds. If we have serious ambition as a club (and I'm sure the Al-Qadi's do) then we need to be looking at building a stadium minimum 21k which can be expanded beyond 30k if needs be.
Where are the fans going to come from? We've been pushing in League 1 in a dilapidated stadium with no good seats available for your non-season ticket holders (frankly the tents are an embarrassment and atmosphere poor compared to the permanent areas of the ground) and been punching towards 10k for the first time in 30-40 years this season just gone. With a stronger push for Championship status the Mem will sell out week in week out.
Make the championship, with new facilities (brand new, not 3/4 new like City) in an accessible location I reckon we could see crowds hitting 16k+, at which point you need to start considering if 21k is enough. Dream the dream, make the Prem (and I think we could in the next 5 years with the ground and Darrell retained) then 21k won't be enough, especially if we do it before the red lot.
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Post by knowall on Jun 4, 2017 10:21:10 GMT
3 miles from the Mem near Filton, Stapleton, Frenchay, Bradley Stoke, Stoke Park, - bus and train transport from North, south east and west and heliport too - parking at UWE not exactly near nowhere? as for design - modern, airy, capacity, (but you prefer the Mem?) Name 3 pubs nearby ? & yes, I prefer the vicinity of the mem. It's become home for me and the glos Rd is great for choice of watering holes If your priority is pubs could I suggest you give up football and then you could spend more time enjoying what you like best
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 11:11:41 GMT
Have to say I enjoy a drink in the Wellie before games. Having said that would be quite happy to have a drink at the UWE before games as I would expect the bar/ food offering to be far superior to what is on offer at the Mem at present as will all other facilities at a state of the art stadium. As far as I am concerned if we want to move up the football pyramid any new stadium, anywhere in the Bristol area is far superior to our present ramshackle home which even to the untrained eye is not on a large enough plot to redevelop into a 21k seater facility and afford suitable car parking etc etc to cope with twice our present capacity.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 11:54:23 GMT
Name 3 pubs nearby ? & yes, I prefer the vicinity of the mem. It's become home for me and the glos Rd is great for choice of watering holes If your priority is pubs could I suggest you give up football and then you could spend more time enjoying what you like best That's counter productive as I'm sure a large % of our matchday attendees visit a pub before or after a game. Giving up football would knock 4 figures from our crowd.
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Post by Severncider on Jun 4, 2017 12:18:27 GMT
If your priority is pubs could I suggest you give up football and then you could spend more time enjoying what you like best That's counter productive as I'm sure a large % of our matchday attendees visit a pub before or after a game. Giving up football would knock 4 figures from our crowd. In my opinion that is rubbish, it would be a small minority, probably less than 5%.
I went to the Welly once. Overpriced drinks put me off going again. As I do not drink and drive, I only have soft drinks and with 50% off at The Mem I would rather support my football teams finances than the pocket of a pub landlord.
Each to their own and I have no problem with those who want to drink elsewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 12:39:03 GMT
That's counter productive as I'm sure a large % of our matchday attendees visit a pub before or after a game. Giving up football would knock 4 figures from our crowd. In my opinion that is rubbish, it would be a small minority, probably less than 5%.
I went to the Welly once. Overpriced drinks put me off going again. As I do not drink and drive, I only have soft drinks and with 50% off at The Mem I would rather support my football teams finances than the pocket of a pub landlord.
Each to their own and I have no problem with those who want to drink elsewhere.
Suggest you revisit your maths. "Less than 5%"is totally wrong. That equates to only 500 of a 10000 crowd if my sums are correct. There are at least 200/300 in the Wellie alone on match days, without taking all the other pubs/ civil service club etc into account. I would suggest 15% + is a more realistic guesstimate if not higher.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 12:54:13 GMT
If pubs were that important to the matchday attendance at the Mem then Steve Lansdowne and his billions would have bought them all up by now. Either to ironically takes rovers fans money to fund BCFC or he would close them down and change into flats. As it is ,its just as well the pubs are still there as the club bars are packed right out,so there isn't space to accommodate those extra drinkers. Like I have mentioned before...with all those students (yes there are student bars at uwe) plus the business's and all the new housing already built and soon to be built plus the football stadium . It would make sense to have a purpose built pub with large garden in the close proximity anyway. The UWE stadium will have proper bars as well as the concourse facilities from what I vaguely remember of the plans.
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Post by madgas on Jun 4, 2017 13:24:49 GMT
I fully support the UWE.
But I don't believe that the mem couldn't fit a stadium of a similar size.
The car park is huge! No parking at major grounds in London.
- I do believe the council might reject. - it would cost loads more. (Unaffordable) - less money to make during non footie times.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 13:36:11 GMT
That's counter productive as I'm sure a large % of our matchday attendees visit a pub before or after a game. Giving up football would knock 4 figures from our crowd. In my opinion that is rubbish, it would be a small minority, probably less than 5%.
I went to the Welly once. Overpriced drinks put me off going again. As I do not drink and drive, I only have soft drinks and with 50% off at The Mem I would rather support my football teams finances than the pocket of a pub landlord.
Each to their own and I have no problem with those who want to drink elsewhere.
Seriously? There are hundreds that used the Vic, the Welly gets loads in. The anchor is busy from lunchtime onwards, the royal oak is always busy. After the game people use these pubs aswell as return to their locals, Kingswood pubs always have people that have been to the game as must do plenty all over Bristol.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 14:01:39 GMT
I fully support the UWE. But I don't believe that the mem couldn't fit a stadium of a similar size. The car park is huge! No parking at major grounds in London. - I do believe the council might reject. - it would cost loads more. (Unaffordable) - less money to make during non footie times. With full respect to your post. We could build a stadium the size of Wembley at our present site. However the planners/ local residents would for obvious reasons not be happy. Your example of London is ill thought as you do not take into consideration the far superior transport links they all have available to them. I imagine getting Bristol City council to put on even one extra bus is about as likely as their ability to build an indoor arena in less than the last thirty years to my knowledge. And then when they finally get round to contemplating to build it can not even accommodate more than a few vehicles on the site. Your last three points are in my opinion right on the money so to speak.
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Post by knowall on Jun 4, 2017 16:13:28 GMT
If pubs were that important to the matchday attendance at the Mem then Steve Lansdowne and his billions would have bought them all up by now. Either to ironically takes rovers fans money to fund BCFC or he would close them down and change into flats. As it is ,its just as well the pubs are still there as the club bars are packed right out,so there isn't space to accommodate those extra drinkers. Like I have mentioned before...with all those students (yes there are student bars at uwe) plus the business's and all the new housing already built and soon to be built plus the football stadium . It would make sense to have a purpose built pub with large garden in the close proximity anyway. The UWE stadium will have proper bars as well as the concourse facilities from what I vaguely remember of the plans. Higgs plans included a 100ft long bar - room enough for kp I would think - eh kp?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 4, 2017 16:26:17 GMT
If your priority is pubs could I suggest you give up football and then you could spend more time enjoying what you like best That's counter productive as I'm sure a large % of our matchday attendees visit a pub before or after a game. Giving up football would knock 4 figures from our crowd. 4 people perhaps. More people will attend matches at the UWE or similar than visit the mem.
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Post by Severncider on Jun 4, 2017 16:31:51 GMT
In my opinion that is rubbish, it would be a small minority, probably less than 5%.
I went to the Welly once. Overpriced drinks put me off going again. As I do not drink and drive, I only have soft drinks and with 50% off at The Mem I would rather support my football teams finances than the pocket of a pub landlord.
Each to their own and I have no problem with those who want to drink elsewhere.
Suggest you revisit your maths. "Less than 5%"is totally wrong. That equates to only 500 of a 10000 crowd if my sums are correct. There are at least 200/300 in the Wellie alone on match days, without taking all the other pubs/ civil service club etc into account. I would suggest 15% + is a more realistic guesstimate if not higher. OK, lets say 15%, that's hardly a "large proportion".
As to the comment about going to pubs in Kingswood etc after a game, that's fine if you do not care about drink/driving, I for one just want to get home after a game.
Everyone is entitled to spend their money on whatever they like and where ever they want to so you'll get no argument from me.
I no longer hear complaints about the quality of the "beers" at the ground so must assume that those who buy alcoholic drinks are happy with the drinks on offer.
Still only 5 weeks until the first friendly, so we can concentrate on the football.
Melksham here we come.
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