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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 31, 2020 8:59:13 GMT
Even if you own your ground, if you can’t pay your bills you will lose it. The clock is ticking.Why, what bills aren't the club paying?? In simple terms it’s like someone taking out an interest only mortgage on their own home to pay the monthly bills, without increasing their income. Eventually the money runs out and there’s no asset to borrow anymore money against. The consequences are if you’ve still not increased your income you still can’t pay your bills and now you have a mortgage to pay. Then your house gets repossessed. That’s why the clocks ticking
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 31, 2020 8:10:44 GMT
Even if you own your ground, if you can’t pay your bills you will lose it. The clock is ticking. It’s fine, the Old Guard (Ed Ware et al) the Americans and a currently unnamed Consortium are all saddling up to ride over the horizon to build us a shiny new stadium and it’s costing us nothing, haven’t you heard.
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 30, 2020 13:53:15 GMT
It’s a 100% fact that nothing has happened. Same as it ever was, unless of course you know different Unless you are in direct contact with Total Produce/their agents & the developers agents etc how can it be 100% fact? You may believe it is but that doesn't make it a fact. This conversation is madness. Total Produce may or may not be in discussions with developers of the site. They may buy it and they decide to turn it into a retail complex a car lot or a Snowdome, who knows. I’ve yet to hear any developer say they’re thinking of building a football stadium. Again unless anyone knows differently. I take no pleasure in this and it feels like telling the kids that there’s no Santa Claus it’s just horrible to watch other Gasheads get their hopes up on the basis on the square root of nothing. I don’t know how long you’ve lived in Bristol but there is a precedent for this fantasy. As far who would want to build a ground for us, I’ve yet to see any argument that goes some way to suggesting that the finance would in anyway benefit the football club. I’m sure though that many a developer would love to get their hands on the Mem. All the time we believe this nonsense of a new ground again the club is getting into deeper financial problems. So maybe pedalling this myth may serve someone’s purpose to get their hands on the ground when the club Is despate or the Administrators deem it prudent to sell the asset. We often hear that it’s not C££y we should be comparing ourselves with but it’s that organisation that benefits from out stagnation. In the 20 years at the Mem the facility’s have barely improved and young families must have an easy decision when deciding where to spend their sporting pounds in Bristol. This fantasy stadium talk has played straight into Lansdowns hands. He must take great joy in watching this play out while our actual home crumbles around us.
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 30, 2020 13:17:46 GMT
Interesting take on something there’s no evidence for other than rumour and suggestion. In breaking news, there’s no Father Christmas it’s just a myth that’s nice for small children and the World isn’t flat. If you drop me a line I’ve got some magic beans you maybe interested in. Very good value, honest. Right... You're not really making sense. Let's look at the facts: - Wael says they're looking at the FM - Media reports on it - darkbluegas says it's the media/club is lying/making it up - darkbluegas is also making it up as they have no proof I'm not saying that it's happening, I'm just pointing out the beautiful irony of your logic - which quite frankly, there isn't any. (Woops! Fact or am I making it up?) It’s a 100% fact that nothing has happened. Same as it ever was, unless of course you know different
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 30, 2020 13:01:31 GMT
[quote author=" BishopstonBRFC " source="/post/594716/thread" timestamp="1580381304"]Where does it say it's not happening? Not a dig genuinely curious. Ahh, so you're guessing/making it up. Which is funny, as that's what you're accusing Wael/the media/the club of doing? Interesting take on something there’s no evidence for other than rumour and suggestion. In breaking news, there’s no Father Christmas it’s just a myth that’s nice for small children and the World isn’t flat. If you drop me a line I’ve got some magic beans you maybe interested in. Very good value, honest.
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 30, 2020 12:46:41 GMT
[quote author=" BishopstonBRFC" source="/post/594716/thread" timestamp="1580381304"] Exactly. These ego fantasists have been at it for decades in Bristol. The only long term effect has been to make Rovers fans look stupid, the rest of them move on. I can’t imagine Total Produce give a stuff about us and are quite happy for nonsense stories to circulate whist they get on with their true business. At least we now know it’s not happening we can move on and at least educate the next generation not to get had again Where does it say it's not happening? Not a dig genuinely curious.[/quote] It clearly isn’t, there are no plans in place, no finance, no one coming forward to suggest anything different. Apart from the Uwe which was only progressed because it involved another body it’s the same as every other pipe dream. Some chat to the Epost and Ali Durden sadly don’t amount to plans for a new stadium. We’ve been had for mugs too many times before to be had again.
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 30, 2020 9:08:45 GMT
Bang on. All those fantasists who Gasincider has been ass kissing for years throwing another try-on out there. Sadly this time they reeled in a whopper. So you are saying the ITK'ers have convinced the Mayor, Wael, the Bristol Post and BBC's Ali Durden that developers are interested in buidling a new stadium even though there's no intention to do so? If true don't you think Total Produce might have told the BP etc to stop printing rubbish? Exactly. These ego fantasists have been at it for decades in Bristol. The only long term effect has been to make Rovers fans look stupid, the rest of them move on. I can’t imagine Total Produce give a stuff about us and are quite happy for nonsense stories to circulate whist they get on with their true business. At least we now know it’s not happening we can move on and at least educate the next generation not to get had again
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 28, 2020 21:25:33 GMT
In commentary a well worked goal like Liverpool score. Well done Juergen Garner
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 28, 2020 16:22:36 GMT
I mean yeah, Wael’s got a fabulous track record when it comes to giving us the truth hasn’t he? If he called me by my name I’d check my birth certificate. On this matter, it would be an extraordinary lie if he was to go on live radio and talk about a piece of land that wasn’t his , then promise fans that a stadium would be built on it in a couple of years and it was just all something that he had come up with off the top of his head to appease supporters. Not saying I treat Wael’s word as gospel or even that I believe something will happen on the site. Just that Wael adds a certain credence to a story in a way that a rumour in a newspaper couldn’t. Wael got well and truly spoofed unfortunately
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 28, 2020 16:20:32 GMT
Maybe we should summarise where we are
1. There is no evidence that there are any parties in a position to improve our financial status.
2. There are no plans to build anything on the Fruit Market site.
3 The political class in Bristol are in no position to change anything in the City other than occasionally digging up the Centre.
4. We own a Stadium that has little equity available in it to support future loans.
5. Constantly repeating the fairytales made up by people attempting to soothe their ego’s is just embarrassing and makes us look naive and desperate, in the eyes of other sporting franchises in Bristol.
We need to get a grip and make the most of what we’ve got and move forward and stop believing the that magic beans will one day grow into something.
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 28, 2020 16:06:34 GMT
Of course, he didn’t help but think he’s cottoned on now that some of the old guard have been taking the Micky as they’re feeling a bit hurt they’ve lost the little bit of power in local sport they once had. They must feel Lansdown is rubbing their noses in it and wanted to cause a bit of agitation. I think Waels got the measure of them now. I wouldn’t be surprised to see some minor redevelopment of the Mem being considered. What about the Mayor? Re-developing the Mem is never going to happen whilst the ALQ's own the club. Do you really think the Mayor has any say in what happens in Bristol. He can’t even get a new bus service to run properly on a road built solely for buses to use for goodness sake. It’s sad I know but but Father Christmas doesn’t exist and there are no fairies at the bottom of the garden. I didn’t say the Mem will be redeveloped but I think something will change at the ground,
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 28, 2020 15:53:27 GMT
Surely no one other than Ali Durden and the Evil Post believe this fairy tale anymore. It’s just a destabilising ruse made up by ex club members. At least Wael’s realising he’s been had and is keeping his head down now. Whilst I understand Ali Durden and The EP have a need to pedal this nonsense, surely us gasheads should be able to see through it. Don’t forget the president of the football club himself, Wael, started this all off by revealing the fruit market site and saying we would have moved in after two years. Without that I would of dismissed it as paper talk but Wael’s admission means it’s hard not to speculate. Of course, he didn’t help but think he’s cottoned on now that some of the old guard have been taking the Micky as they’re feeling a bit hurt they’ve lost the little bit of power in local sport they once had. They must feel Lansdown is rubbing their noses in it and wanted to cause a bit of agitation. I think Waels got the measure of them now. I wouldn’t be surprised to see some minor redevelopment of the Mem being considered.
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 28, 2020 15:28:12 GMT
I also expect some, some false hope to come from someone at the club when season tickets go on sale. Can see ticket sales being the lowest for 5 or 6 seasons next season. Attendances were low when were 4th. After a bottom half finish, there won't be a rush for renewal I'd imagine. Surely no one other than Ali Durden and the Evil Post believe this fairy tale anymore. It’s just a destabilising ruse made up by ex club members. At least Wael’s realising he’s been had and is keeping his head down now. Whilst I understand Ali Durden and The EP have a need to pedal this nonsense, surely us gasheads should be able to see through it.
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 27, 2020 22:50:00 GMT
What’s the alternative? Who would take on a club in millions worth of debt, with a terrible stadium and no training ground? You would have to be fu cking stupid. I totally agree but weal and co are not funding our football club and when the happy clappers realise this it will be too late! We need a protest. I imagine the board will be looking forward to hearing your offer to buy the club and run it on a day to day basis
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 27, 2020 17:37:17 GMT
The Gaffer talking about the Bolton Game. Finally, Garner was asked about how he would benefit from his first win as Rovers manager... "Not so much for me, I just want it for the players and the group. They deserve a win, they've been unlucky in a number of games now. On Saturday, the penalty flicking off and hitting the bar, and that would've been the win. "I'm disappointed for them more than anything, it's not about me, I'm not trying to get that win for me, it's about the club and about the players, and I'm desperate for them to get that win as soon as possible and we'll keep doing everything we can to try and get it." And I imagine the players and supporters would love for him to get his first win as a football league manager, the first of many in a long and successful career. Seems like a thoroughly nice and decent bloke.
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 26, 2020 12:14:13 GMT
I agree with the sentiment “what option do we have”
It’s the rosy cheeked tax exiles method of operation. He’s achieved great financial success in growing a brand at whatever cost whilst having a very close eye on strangling the life out of the opposition. Nothing new there in business and if he’s comfortable in doing that good luck to him, that’s business.
In the process Bristol Rugby Club no longer exist the Bristol Bears Franchise do and they now play in red. Will they be successful? Of course they will, they have massive financial clout. Will it effect us? Yes, there’s only so many sporting pounds to go around in Bristol.
Same with C££y 82, will they eventually become successful? Yes it’s inevitable. Will that impact us, again yes.
So what do we do? Moan that our owners don’t give us money they don’t have whilst we complain that we don’t sell out to non existent buyers. The nonsense that’s been fed to the gullible local media has be laughable. It’s all been a destabilising ruse made up by disgruntled previous members of the club. All the time the club withers on the vine in the decaying, outdated stadium.
Will we compete with C££y again? Seems unlikely while the exile is there. What do we about it? Work out what makes us unique and start selling that, big time. Make our own brand. AND forget the nonsense of a new stadium and make the best of what we have, properly. Fans say the benefit is only in a new stadium but imagine the excitement if we built a 3000 seat South Stand with a nice big bar in it. The first brick structure for seventy years at our own ground.
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 26, 2020 0:46:35 GMT
You’re probably right. The likes of Stokes should be moved to a dark corner somewhere.
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 25, 2020 17:56:46 GMT
What a great role model Stokes is for young sportsmen. How the hell is he still playing for England
Don't know what your problem is? He was found not guilty in a court of law.
What a surprise. Like they say “they always come again” www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/51248484
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 24, 2020 17:33:39 GMT
Nice interview and good to hear that things have improved at home. Good to hear that he’s been able to get the ball rolling with regard to how he wants the side set up. Didn’t realise he was struggling at home from the time he arrived here must have been very difficult.
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Post by darkbluegas on Jan 24, 2020 17:13:07 GMT
I see that the rugby club have a local derby against Gloucester tomorrow at 3pm. I assume all their Saturday fixtures will clash with our home games. Do you think this has been having an effect on our attendances as well as the other issues ? I know plenty of our supporters also support the rugby club and given our state at the moment maybe they’re opting for Trashton. What rugby club?
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