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Post by oviedista on Nov 13, 2023 11:08:33 GMT
Surely no manager makes tactical decisions to play 'boring' or 'entertaining' football or any other blanket strategy purely based on whether a tie is home or away?
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Post by oviedista on Nov 12, 2023 20:53:36 GMT
To say we have been very easy to play against is an exaggeration imo. Partly true in some fixtures certainly not in others. Could be about personal preference but while frustrated watching games at times but I never found the style of play boring in the way it was under so many past managers - Graydon, Buckle, Atkins, McGhee etc when there were whole games when I genuinely couldn't count more than two passes strung together. That's why I'll never be too negative about Barton's football and it was far, far more effective and entertaining than any of the passing game that Garner tried to bring in. It needed a cutting edge and a better plan for breaking teams down I agree but that didn't mean abandoning the possession game.
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Post by oviedista on Nov 12, 2023 18:42:11 GMT
Thinking we're overlooking that playing possession football is a platform for the Championship even if hard at this level. Wycombe lasted one season I'd rather cement a place in the division and not have to do it all again. When we won matches under Barton it was often whilst controlling and dominating the game, other times we would control the game but lose and not create much which was frustrating. Nevertheless, I still think that's a platform to build from and doggedly digging out results will only bring short term gains. The problem is we could spend a decade playing possession based football and never reach the Championship, Plymouth look like they could survive this season and I can't recall them playing JB type football? Although as Singupgas(?) suggested there's a middle ground between GC type football and JB's possession based football. Not sure about middle ground but agree something was missing. Think the main problem was breaking down teams that sat back. Generally the more teams play this way the better they get at it provided there is a strategy and a good squad. Think Plymouth played much better football than Wycombe.
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Post by oviedista on Nov 12, 2023 17:51:20 GMT
Thinking we're overlooking that playing possession football is a platform for the Championship even if hard at this level. Wycombe lasted one season I'd rather cement a place in the division and not have to do it all again. When we won matches under Barton it was often whilst controlling and dominating the game, other times we would control the game but lose and not create much which was frustrating. Nevertheless, I still think that's a platform to build from and doggedly digging out results will only bring short term gains.
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Post by oviedista on Nov 10, 2023 9:25:27 GMT
I'm slightly baffled as to why anyone has a major issue with Monk. We'd be lucky if he's willing to take the job and he's the only proper fit for us that I can see at the moment. Seems like the best person to build on what JB started and take it t the next level. My only concern is why he’s been out the game for three years? If he’s that good he’d have been picked up by someone in the Championship or L1? Certainly a question to be asked at interview! I'm assuming he's just taken time out to concentrate on other projects. He may see this as a good time to come back or he may be done with management.
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Post by oviedista on Nov 10, 2023 8:52:35 GMT
Please can someone remind me what Gary Monk 's football looked like.
On KR , giving a reason for his flop in his final season at Oxford , would solve a mystery. His win rate actualy is good , but there is something about him
I'm not sure of , seems a bit of a comedian.
Atm still think Richardson out of a poor list is top. As has been said December is always a good month for sackings , we may as well wait..
Gary Monk took over at Swansea when they were struggling in the Premier league. He safely avoided relegation with them and in the following season took them to an 8th place finish having beaten the likes of Arsenal and Man Utd home and away. The football he played was the “Swansea way”, which any football supporter he followed them in that league would know was excellent football. All the jobs he took on after that were “fire fighting jobs “ in his own words and did not do badly at any of them and none of those clubs were relegated. He had a distinguished career as a player and played in the Premier league and all the other divisions with Swansea in their rise to the top tier, captaining the side to the league cup final win and promotions. He was a centrehalf and knew how to defend, another attribute that could help us. He has always been my pick and would prefer him above the likes of CR. I'm slightly baffled as to why anyone has a major issue with Monk. We'd be lucky if he's willing to take the job and he's the only proper fit for us that I can see at the moment. Seems like the best person to build on what JB started and take it t the next level.
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Post by oviedista on Nov 8, 2023 10:14:09 GMT
Think we should be clear there is zero equivalence between the tennis ball protest and throwing a firework at opposition fans. Fans organising and taking a stand against the mismanagement of their clubs is a positive imo.
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Post by oviedista on Nov 6, 2023 17:28:57 GMT
Ainsworth seems to fit the list of requirements that Hussain AlSaeed provided. Young, promotion from league 1. To do it with a smallish budget at wycombe as well. I don't think his football is the most attractive but it's a results business and his CV shows a promotion from L1. But surely it's not just about results. To switch playing style completely after everything Barton has done to entrench a passing game would be massively counterproductive at this stage. Building and improving on what the previous manager has done is vital unless it;s an absolute shambles which however you feel about Barton it definitely hasn't been. I don't care how successful anyone has been at this level any new manager must bring some kind of continuity.
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Post by oviedista on Nov 6, 2023 16:42:37 GMT
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Post by oviedista on Oct 28, 2023 16:13:03 GMT
Good, they are devil's of their own being' so * them (most of them are not even connected to Bristol) I lived in Cotham/Bishopston back from 90 to about 98.....most of the locals 45-50% of them were not even Bristolian' walking around in Tweed waist coats' trimmed beards with Green or Burgundy corduroy trousers. Utter W ⚓️'s 50% of people living in Bishopston during the 90s wore tweed waistcoats?
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Post by oviedista on Oct 28, 2023 13:30:20 GMT
Mem is going to be a logistical/ infrastructural nightmare if we expect to grow to anything near 20 000 capacity. FM seemed such a progressive option from a town planning perspective. But this is Bristol I guess.
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Post by oviedista on Oct 27, 2023 14:34:32 GMT
Over 5000 on Instagram have thanked Joey, the haters on here are in the minority. Well, he's got 135k followers on Instagram, and 5k 'likes' not messages of 'thanks', so that is less than 5%, so clearly the majority haven't thanked him if those are the figures you want to run with I think you may be slightly overestimating the percentage of his followers that are Rovers fans.
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Post by oviedista on Oct 27, 2023 11:50:13 GMT
Clubs with long term success have a vision and philosophy that runs through the whole system and builds on previous work even with a change of manager. Starting again with random choices (as we did for many years) can give short term success but usually leads to long term decline. Purely based on football I think sacking Barton makes no sense but if we appoint someone likely to build on what he started I can forgive the decision. The next choice will reveal how much vision is coming from the club and ho much change has been driven purely by the motivation of managers (Clarke and Barton) rather than anything greater than that. Completely agree. JB essentially overhauled everything at the club, which ultimately resulted in Starnes and Tommy Widdrington leaving the club. This to me at the time felt like a total abandonment of whatever strategy that was in place then, which I think was essentially "suck it and see" philosophy with each appointment, was thrown out. This struck me as the club openly admitting that they had no idea what they were doing. Now that JB has gone, what strategy do we have now? Time will tell, but I'm not optimistic. Yea I'm not at all optimistic either. Always felt like DC singlehandedly dragged the club out of the pits to a basic level of professionalism and Barton then to another level again. If Barton had followed on directly from DC without the shambles in between I'd have more faith in some kind of a plan.
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Post by oviedista on Oct 27, 2023 11:27:18 GMT
Clubs with long term success have a vision and philosophy that runs through the whole system and builds on previous work even with a change of manager. Starting again with random choices (as we did for many years) can give short term success but usually leads to long term decline.
Purely based on football I think sacking Barton makes no sense but if we appoint someone likely to build on what he started I can forgive the decision. The next choice will reveal how much vision is coming from the club and ho much change has been driven purely by the motivation of managers (Clarke and Barton) rather than anything greater than that.
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Post by oviedista on Oct 26, 2023 14:35:06 GMT
I don't know how you can be a gashead for any decent amount of time and not be extremely nervous about the appointment of a new manager if things aren't already at rock bottom.
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Post by oviedista on Oct 24, 2023 12:37:22 GMT
105,000 ! 😮 Wonder what’s the parking like around there on match days 😂 Don’t mention it to the Verde party The stadium is served by excellent public transport infrastructure meaning few people choose to travel there by car. Sure anyone verde would approve.
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Post by oviedista on Oct 22, 2023 16:28:24 GMT
Not a mind reader but Woods was absolutely seething with the ref and keeper shortly before the sending off. When I saw him throw his arm out it seemed pretty obvious it was in frustration.
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Post by oviedista on Oct 22, 2023 11:14:29 GMT
I applauded at the end because it’s all too easy to blame every player after a defeat like that but performances weren’t all terrible. Grant and Martin for example played far better than some are making out but that sending off killed us.
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Post by oviedista on Oct 21, 2023 22:00:06 GMT
Come on mate, it’s a blatant red, he leads with his arm. Ref got it spot on. Referees need to be given back the ability to make judgement calls and take a view on whether there is genuine violent conduct or intent. Instead they get given directives (not new rules) which is why you now get screams of “he raised his hands” every time there is a little melee or coming together even if there is no more contact than giving your dog a tickle under his chin. Aside from today’s red card, and as I mentioned on a thread earlier, people pay to watch football and matches are getting ruined when Referees decide they want to make the contest uneven in number when most of the time there is no real reason to do so. Things like the number of ridiculous cards ruining games and the football authorities lack of interest in ridding the game of dark arts will slowly impact on interest in the game. It is for me and other fans I speak with. There was clear intent as I saw it so it was the right decision. Unless you want refs to let things slide in order to keep the game even? If Woods keeps his head today we keep 11 on the pitch.
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Post by oviedista on Oct 21, 2023 17:53:01 GMT
Just got back (staying in Buxton) and most of my frustration is with their time wasting and with Woods for his reaction. Felt we were in the ascendency and that’s why they tried to take the momentum out of the game by feigning injuries. But had woods stayed on reckon we would have got something from the game or at least had a v good chance.
It wasn’t terrible but it was another massive failure to handle sh**ty lower league shenanigans and an awful result. A sending off that could have a big impact on our season especially as he’s out for three games now.
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