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Post by Smithy Gas on Jul 29, 2023 10:15:44 GMT
A few points from me that has no real bearing on anything:
1. Looks better in Pete’s photo (above) than on the promotional videos - sometimes lighting etc. can distort the blue; 2. I get that the player issue shirts might need block colour on the back but we’re Gas and our shirts should be quartered… it’s half a job; 3. The gasworks pattern in the kit is a nice touch and the launch video enjoyable but the two aren’t really linked except by location… worth the build up? 4. I’ll have to say it again as I’ve said for the past 3 years… still not toddler kits on launch. How hard is it? Suspect I’ll ask and be told it’s “a few weeks” and end up getting my nephews birthday present as a Christmas present again like the last two years! This is my biggest bugbear and lessons are still not learnt.
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Post by Smithy Gas on Jul 18, 2023 20:42:19 GMT
BCC use the "gatekeepers" at validation to control the amount of applications that go through each week - especially at the moment. One thing wrong on the form and they'll kick it back just to try and hold back the flood. If your application is correct it will be validated. After that it goes into BCCs big black hole to be dealt with (last one for me was something from December... 7 months for an 8 week process!) So something wasn't correct in the initial submission for the application not to be validated for that length of time. Simple as that. Really? Nothing is mentioned in the timeline about the original plan being rejected. I think BNPParibas know what they're doing! The Application Form and South Stand Layout Images were created 7th April and a Design and Access Statement 1st June - which possibly looks a lot like someone in BCC dotting too many i's and crossing too many t's and could be the cause of any delays. There you go then, you’ve done the digging. (The following is supposition on my part based on knowledge of the system…) Drawings were all sorted and submitted with the original application in April; LPA asked for a design and access statement for the project to be validated; D&A (dated 10th June) submitted to LPA and project validated not long after. So whoever took 2 months to write the D&A for the project is (probably!) where the delay lies. Probably.
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Post by Smithy Gas on Jul 18, 2023 13:41:50 GMT
Our application looks like it was prepared by professional planning consultants and the stand manufacturer who must have done this many many times. Guess people can make there own decision where the delay was but I suspect anyone who has dealt with under resourced government departments recently will have a view ....... BCC use the "gatekeepers" at validation to control the amount of applications that go through each week - especially at the moment. One thing wrong on the form and they'll kick it back just to try and hold back the flood. If your application is correct it will be validated. After that it goes into BCCs big black hole to be dealt with (last one for me was something from December... 7 months for an 8 week process!) So something wasn't correct in the initial submission for the application not to be validated for that length of time. Simple as that.
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Post by Smithy Gas on Jul 16, 2023 21:11:04 GMT
The club should have applied for p p long before it did why does it take foreverto get anything done in bristo? F f s I notice that the club submitted the planning application on 11th April. Absolutely ridiculous that it took Bristol CC nearly 11 weeks until the 29th June to validate and then upload on their website. it is hardly a complicated application and very few residents are directly affected in terms of the construction. Compliant applications would be validated within a week or so… not the LPAs fault, what was wrong and/or missing from the application package that took 11 weeks to rectify from the client side?
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Post by Smithy Gas on Jul 2, 2023 21:00:39 GMT
Is it definitely 6 metres it's moving?. That seems a hell of a lot. Pitch will be right up against the Thatchers end now if that's correct. The touchline at the South End is definitely moving 6mtrs so if the pitch is staying the same size then yes it will be close to the Thatchers End. Do I get to move my seat 6M as well so it’s still halfway?
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Post by Smithy Gas on Jun 30, 2023 20:01:58 GMT
So the application was submitted in April but only got validated two months later (hence only being uploaded to the portal and going live today).
I’ve no idea what could take that long to sort out for validation but that two month delay has shanked a positive planning decision before the season starts - the determination date of August 26th now means no stand can be built before then (legally) and those dates at current aren’t worth the paper they are written on.
What’s the plan then? Seems like it’s gonna be build the thing and hope planning comes in when it comes in and water off the locals in the interim - with those pathetic objections some of them deserve it.
Or wait and then we play a game of when the statement from the board comes blaming planning delays which were known about months ago…
Gonna be a fun month or two and I genuinely don’t know which option they are going to take… old Rovers would go latter but they seem like they are just gonna hammer this thing up and sod the consequences.
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Post by Smithy Gas on Jun 2, 2023 14:11:19 GMT
Why do planning need to get their house in order? There's a process to follow and you can only assume the process is being followed correctly by the club's agents and the planners. Eventually the plans will be uploaded to the planning portal and then we will all be able to see the deadlines the planners have set for comments etc. Topper the clue is in what TG said, " despite the delays" there are delays with planning putting the application online. I put an application in last week and it was validated and all plans are online already. Funny how Rovers’ isn’t and it was submitted a long time before this. I don’t disbelieve what TG has told you but something isn’t right - the application should be readily viewable by now if submitted and validated a while back. Oh and if the clubs planning agents can nip ahead of the planning queue, get me their number next time you speak to Tom!
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Post by Smithy Gas on May 31, 2023 21:12:18 GMT
It's been mentioned on this thread that due to lack of funding there are delays with the planning system, as I've just posted it's taking around a month for plans to be validated and then appear on the planning portal, until they appear on the portal the 21 days consultation period will commence. The planning world has clearly moved on from residents having to visit planning offices and write in with their observations as everything now is done online via the portal, hence why we could see previously the nature of the local residents complaints regarding The Quarters expansion plans. ok thank you for that info. But you do not have to make an application through a planning portal. But counsel's do have to except applications paper or electronically and they do have to make applications viewable by a visit , whether they like it or not. Clearly applications can still be made using paper copy but in 2023 it’s not how most people operate and won’t be how the club will be operating (considering all previous applications for the Mem and Quarters over the past few years have been submitted electronically…). The club are confident (pre application advice which doesn’t get published) that this will be a formality but Topper is right - submissions at the moment to BCC are going into a big black hole and without validation no consultation period can start and the project cannot be determined by delegated powers or committee. Once it is validated everything will be uploaded to the planning portal online but as of today this hasn’t taken place. We've got projects that are awaiting determination 6 months after validation and counting. Not even been allocated an officer yet. Rovers have about 8 weeks to ascertain planning and build the thing… looking forward to seeing how they do it in this timeframe but if it doesn’t happen, you know why!
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Post by Smithy Gas on May 20, 2023 18:56:56 GMT
very much a forgotten man for his bit at the club 1st time round. Good 2 reasons why he’s the forgotten man, but still done a great job 1st time round. Leave it at that. I don't think Blackpool and Fleetwood have quite the same rivalry or history as Bristol City and Rovers. Granted they're close, but it's more comparable to a small club like Cheltenham or Forest Green rising up to our level. John Ward's second spell at Rovers actually began really well. He had a 50% win ratio in 2013-13 after taking over from Mark McGhee. It just all went so horribly wrong the following season and the gamble of swapping Eliot Richards for Alan Gow, who immediately got injured was disastrous. So his reputation is rightly tainted by relegation to non league, but I still have a higher opinion of him than the likes of Buckle, McGhee and Garner I can’t remember how it transpired but I think Darrell tapped him up for a job and he obliged. The rest, as they say, is history. Even if his own second spell wasn’t great he sowed the seeds for a hell of a few years…
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Post by Smithy Gas on May 20, 2023 18:52:25 GMT
Still knocking about… don’t write us off yet.
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Post by Smithy Gas on Apr 9, 2023 13:35:35 GMT
f**k the he said, she said stuff… in amongst this statement Wael is essentially committing to:
New stadium at Fruit Market (how ever that unfolds) New South Stand in the meantime (due to be released imminently) Phase 2 at the Quarters which sounds to me different to what has already achieved PP as they need to apply for planning again and there will be a community element (ie money making) Cat 2 Academy off the back of the above.
Say what you like about the bloke but if he ticks off that list I’ll tickle his tummy any time he wants!
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Post by Smithy Gas on Apr 8, 2023 13:36:37 GMT
I’ve said it before I’ll say it again - it’s going to be more convenient for some and less convenient for others. Anyone who’s lived in South Bristol for the last 10 years or more has had to drive or deal with shocking public transport links to the Mem and now will benefit.
A new stadium (should everything fall into place…) at this location does however give us the best opportunity to get the most people to the ground in the most sustainable ways possible. It will be a step change and people will need to change habits but the more people jumping on trains, buses and P&R to essentially a stadium next to the South West's major rail interchange (should be travel interchange but someone built the bus station in the wrong place…) the better.
Typically after 10 years basically a stones throw away I’m moving and will have to get a train!
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Post by Smithy Gas on Mar 31, 2023 21:52:22 GMT
If you can speak to an officer… good luck with that! Still four months from submission to get allocated a planning officer - that’s not determination of decision. Even if this is being done properly (I hope it is) it’s not going to be in place before Christmas. PS whoever mentioned temporary structure it’s a bit of a misnomer - this stand is not going to be temporary despite its construction type (will be in place for over 28 days) so will have to apply for permission as above and get in the queue. Minimum is 28 days for a temporary structure, Bournemouth temporary south stand was given five years before it had to be removed, after five years the club applied for renewal the stand has now been in place for 10 years. Yup - anything over 28 days needs planning so there will be no circumventing of current delays so the stand being temporary only matters from a construction basis.
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Post by Smithy Gas on Mar 30, 2023 20:51:32 GMT
They can keep it a secret until they submit a planning application, thereby giving local residents less time to get their act together? I'm surprised local residents have already raised concerns given the past problems we've had with them. Exactly, the thing is the club should be in talks with the planning officers so that the plans meet with their agreement before they are submitted. This should shorten the time that it takes for the planning committee to approve the plans. If you can speak to an officer… good luck with that! Still four months from submission to get allocated a planning officer - that’s not determination of decision. Even if this is being done properly (I hope it is) it’s not going to be in place before Christmas. PS whoever mentioned temporary structure it’s a bit of a misnomer - this stand is not going to be temporary despite its construction type (will be in place for over 28 days) so will have to apply for permission as above and get in the queue.
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Post by Smithy Gas on Mar 28, 2023 20:56:43 GMT
Brilliant marketing, create a shortage to increase demand. Just like bog rolls and pasta during the pandemic. Blimey, a bit different actually...if the bog rolls run out, I wouldn't wanna wipe me 'arris with dry penne.... I’d probably opt for the shells and scoop.
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Post by Smithy Gas on Mar 21, 2023 21:39:05 GMT
I may have got Anderson being the second player wrong then but what I’m saying about grant is 100% what I read, maybe the situation has changed already I don’t know? I’m just repeating what was written in an interview article with Barton. It’s just what I read, maybe the article was bullshit lol www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/season-over-bristol-rovers-defender-7701527This article is probably the one you are referring to. Doesn’t explicitly state they’ve offered terms to Grant but clearly if he gets fit he’s likely to be offered a deal of sorts for next season I would imagine.
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Post by Smithy Gas on Mar 19, 2023 14:13:51 GMT
Thanks Mark.
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Post by Smithy Gas on Mar 7, 2023 20:34:23 GMT
As Holmes says none of us no the exact circumstances which led to this tragic event. Most of us our prepared to engage in banter with other fans a lot of it good natured , some fans are prepared to take it to another level and engage in punch ups and the like ,i am sure it never crosses their mind that someone could get very seriously hurt or worse still end up in life threatening situations BUT it only takes one outright thug and you end up with this. Every club has an element of followers who they could do without, i hope those who think it acceptable to behave in this manner will stop and think of the possible consequence's and refrain from such activity, if these events help get the message home then MR Johnson's passing need not be in vain. IF we ever play the 82 again, bring this up. I am sure it will not age well. Unfortunately, football is tribal by its very nature but much more could and should be done to stop to for ever starting. Those who complain about costs should then wonder what price a human life is worth. It will not change until the penalties are enforced properly and with no exceptions. For example, someone who as much as threatens another fan, should face a very high penalty IMO. It will only stop when “fans” stop glorifying itSays the geezer who’s spent years on the forum eulogising about the good ol’ days on the Tote End. Lol.
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Post by Smithy Gas on Mar 6, 2023 21:36:49 GMT
Whatever the kit looks like, I just hope it turns up before the start of the season so it can be sold on any kit launch day in all sizes… took till Christmas to get a kiddies kit in stock this year and that ain’t good enough considering those little gits are the ones we are supposed to be targeting!
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Post by Smithy Gas on Mar 2, 2023 22:36:38 GMT
IN RESPONSE TO A QUESTION ABOUT POTENTIAL DELAYS IN THE PLANNING PROCESS FOR THE PROPOSED NEW STAND. David Bright replied,: "We’ve started the conversations and we have good people working on it for us, we hope to be able to keep pace on the project." No chance. Needed to be submitted last year with current delays and if their current team aren’t local they won’t know that. Perfect excuse to be able to blame it on planning rather than anything else though when it all goes tits up…
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