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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 18:59:47 GMT
So despite the manager saying he's been backed by the owner and despite the fact we've brought in 17 players over the summer you're trying to pretend that the owner hasn't backed the manager? Why? Thought we were talking about why we had to sign two 30+ strikers not players generally? So why would JB sign two 30+ strikers if he could sign two under 30 year olds? Regardless Wael's, yet again, made a hopeless job in recruiting a manager. He should have told Mansfield to f off when they wanted to appoint GC, then appointed an experienced manager rather than cone boy to replace GC. Tisdale was yet an another hopeless appointment. Because he is inept. Wael backed him just like you said he should. Just because you backed this pile of sh** to the hilt until now doesn't make it Wael's fault that the pile of sh** you backed signed two crocked, old, strikers.
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 18:38:04 GMT
So despite JB saying the owner has backed him and he's solely responsible for recruitment - the recruitment isn't his fault? This is just getting silly now. JB can only spend what Wael's given him, JB's made it clear his budgets been cut by £800K(?) as I said earlier why would JB sign two over 30's if he could afford younger strikers, it's not like Pitman and Clarke are two of his Merseyside mates of old. There must be some reason BG, PT & JB have all struggled a decent striker, even GC got a bit lucky with JCH as he could have just as easy been another Payne. So despite the manager saying he's been backed by the owner and despite the fact we've brought in 17 players over the summer you're trying to pretend that the owner hasn't backed the manager? Why?
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 18:34:58 GMT
What have anybodies wife and kids got to do with anything? This is all your fault for not drinking the koolaid and not thinking positive enough you Dam rat. And to think of all that money we spent putting you on that leadership course. For SHAME. Disgusting post. What if my elderly second cousin were to read this?
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 18:33:42 GMT
So just managed to actually listen through his usual waffle and he says that the support base could have turned toxic, could have got on their back. Seems to me we did today with booing at half time, full time, the chants against Barton at the end, the comments shouted at Barton behind the dugout. Not to mention the chants of ‘we had a shot’ and ‘we scored a goal’ The fan base has turned for sure. I think there most only be a handful left supporting him. Loads on here who were still just about behind him have now turned. There can't be more than a 100 behind him now. All 48,000 who went to Wembley in '07 are behind him minus 50 posters on here. At least that's what I've read.
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 16:20:10 GMT
What on earth are you talking about? if you don't know ai am not going to explain, ever thought his wife or kids might read this, course you don't What have anybodies wife and kids got to do with anything?
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 16:14:21 GMT
No *ing way. No. No way is he getting off that easy. I'm not having people saying next season he wasn’t given enough time. Keep the miserable little prick in place and make him deal with the consequences of his actions for once. The consequences of his actions are that we will be non-league next season! Is that what you want? The man can now add 'Fraud' to his list of misdemeanours!! He'll never accept it.
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 16:13:39 GMT
No *ing way. No. No way is he getting off that easy. I'm not having people saying next season he wasn’t given enough time. Keep the miserable little prick in place and make him deal with the consequences of his actions for once. horrible coment, were you the person calling him a w**ker after the game by any chance? Do you think his wife and kids want to see comments like this, disgusting!!! What on earth are you talking about?
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 16:00:33 GMT
Should people start berating you for saying this like you have others? Up to you mate, but at least be gracious enough to acknowledge that he’s got to the point where he can no longer support Barton and is willing to admit it publicly But it's not anything like being gracious though is it? It's hammering people as Sh1!heads for raising concerns and then when it's too difficult to ignore anymore changing his mind.
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 15:58:26 GMT
No *ing way. No. No way is he getting off that easy. I'm not having people saying next season he wasn’t given enough time. Keep the miserable little prick in place and make him deal with the consequences of his actions for once.
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 15:55:20 GMT
I've always backed JB but now I'm not interested..... We need a change. Sorry Joe but the vast majority of us have had enough. Do the honourable thing at 5pm and Resign Should people start berating you for saying this like you have others?
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 12:38:48 GMT
Don't rate JCH or Harrison or Taylor or Bodin or Easter or Lambert or Walker then? Fair enough. Very hard to please. you are the one who says it's not a problem and named strikers that covered how many years?3 out of 137 maybe get behind a brand new team could be a option for some. Eh? Because I don't agree that having two unfit strikers in, probably, their last year of league football I should support a different team? Are you sure that definitely makes sense? Maybe you can talk me through how you've reached that conclusion? Or ... sorry ... did you want me to name every striker we've had in the history of the club? I'm not clear on what your point is? I didn't go back far enough? Have you absolutely definitely thought this through?
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 12:36:47 GMT
We don't generally have a policy of signing strikers who are proven at this level. That doesn't mean we haven't had strikers who score goals - would you like me to name them? I agree that we've had strikers who score goals (even Tom Nichols scored more than one). I just can't think of many who relocated on a one year deal in the last 5 years. I don't follow why a one year deal is the criteria?
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 12:02:51 GMT
Not been a problem for the previous 138 years the club has existed. Is that because Google wasn't invented do you think? yep it's only this season we have struggled.i must of missed the previous 137 years of top flight english and european football that you witnessed with rovers and every season having the best strikers in the land Don't rate JCH or Harrison or Taylor or Bodin or Easter or Lambert or Walker then? Fair enough. Very hard to please.
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 11:48:18 GMT
Not been a problem for the previous 138 years the club has existed. Is that because Google wasn't invented do you think? Please can you name the proven goal scorers who have relocated to us on a one year contract in the last 5 years? We don't generally have a policy of signing strikers who are proven at this level. That doesn't mean we haven't had strikers who score goals - would you like me to name them?
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 11:15:05 GMT
I've just Googled "Goals scored from the treatment table" - I can't see there's much footage of any on YouTube ... then google lower league strikers who score goals and are availble and want to relocate to bristol on a one year contract. Cant see many results Not been a problem for the previous 138 years the club has existed. Is that because Google wasn't invented do you think?
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 10:52:31 GMT
Yet if we started our two key players up top, we'd have a combined aged of well over 70 leading the line. Ludicrous. why if they score goals?better then starting with two youngsters up top like last season who couldn't trap and ball and spent the game falling over. I've just Googled "Goals scored from the treatment table" - I can't see there's much footage of any on YouTube ...
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 10:50:11 GMT
Yeah you're missing the point I'm making. I've already said the average age of the squad isn't really the point. It doesn't matter that there are games with no players over 30. I'm talking about the age of key players brought in to fill key roles. I see Roverdrive has pretty much made my point for me. I don't see how you can disagree with that. Pitman and Clarke were never brought in, to play together, so if that’s the key point, it’s not a very good one. Because of there age, they will take it in turns when fit. They have the legs of Collins, Saunders, Nicholson, Thomas, Anderson , Clarke, Evan’s etc around them. So having one up front with 2/3 young player’s around them, isn’t really an issue??? Time will tell if they settle in and perform well for us. So far they have not. Anderson, Collins, Clarke, Thomas have all been highly rated at this level or higher before. None of them can be key players though?? OK cool. Sorry, you're right - the football league is upside-down!
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 10:04:58 GMT
We will only get a result today if JB accepts he is partly to blame for the indifferent performances and starts playing with more than one player up top. We need to stop our opponents building from the back and get some partnerships going. We have a good squad of players but we now need to see their class and give an attacking display with some ruthless defending. Cut out playing players out of position when it is not necessary. Just change the formation to match the players instead of trying to play a formation that is not working. Hopefully our fans won't be a laughing stock, forcing people out at 5 o'clock today.
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 9:13:14 GMT
Yeah you're missing the point I'm making. I've already said the average age of the squad isn't really the point. It doesn't matter that there are games with no players over 30. I'm talking about the age of key players brought in to fill key roles. I see Roverdrive has pretty much made my point for me. I don't see how you can disagree with that. But who's fault is it we could only sign 30+ year olds, I can't really see JB signing them if he could sign under 30 year olds, so it must come down to lack of finance from Wael. There's always the chance they wouldn't sign because of the JB factor but that hasn't stopped all the other's signing and I'm sure if we offered them a few £'s more they'd soon forget who was our manager. That £800K(?) JB says was cut from the wage bill this season had to be made somewhere. I see Ayunga's been out injured for a few weeks again so signing a younger striker is no guarantee they'll remain fit. So despite JB saying the owner has backed him and he's solely responsible for recruitment - the recruitment isn't his fault? This is just getting silly now.
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Post by LJG on Sept 18, 2021 8:30:34 GMT
The average age of the squad isn't really the issue. The advanced age of the players brought in to fill key positions is. Younger player’s were brought in with them though. As I said, No player’s over 30 in some games. Some old team that is😂. The only area you might argue that is upfront. But then we still have Collins and Saunders who are young. As I said we already had the young player’s?? So why would we sign, what we already have? We signed experienced player’s to go with them. The two I would moan about are Clarke and Wheelen as we already had Couts and Pitman for experience in those areas. But before then, we signed one experienced defender, one midfielder, one striker. To go with a very young squad. Don’t see a problem with that. Yeah you're missing the point I'm making. I've already said the average age of the squad isn't really the point. It doesn't matter that there are games with no players over 30. I'm talking about the age of key players brought in to fill key roles. I see Roverdrive has pretty much made my point for me. I don't see how you can disagree with that.
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