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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 3, 2017 21:29:40 GMT
Lack of ambition? have you considered lack of finance? might be more realistic if you do. We paid fees for Sercombe and Nichols, increased the back room staff and set up our development squad so it's not a lack of finance. In relative terms, we haven't spent much and our wage budget isn't a lot.
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Post by Raj Gas on Sept 3, 2017 21:56:28 GMT
We paid fees for Sercombe and Nichols, increased the back room staff and set up our development squad so it's not a lack of finance. In relative terms, we haven't spent much and our wage budget isn't a lot. Those transfer fees have come from somewhere, if you equate those to an annual salary it may explain why we haven't recruited as many players.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 22:05:09 GMT
I agree but many posters are screaming blue murder that we didnt sign 3 or 4 more players. What im saying is the club have spent heavily already so to spend yet more is not realistic. DC is the one who said he wanted to sign 3 strikers. We signed 2. DC is the one who said he wanted to sign a defensive midfielder. We haven't signed one. DC is the one who said he wanted to sign a left winger. We haven't signed one of those either. It is realistic to expect a balanced squad and decent options/cover for each position, especially in midfield where we are now lacking with just one player out injured. Well i think the market is inflated and the club have changed tack. Were building up the development squad because its the only way for us to go in the current climate. I think we have a balanced squad relative to the size of the club. We have come along way with a strong group of players but they have found there level now and the situation is that we cant rebuild quick enough to be a top team with the funds available. It just remains to be seen if we can still have a good season with the players we have at the club.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 22:08:28 GMT
We paid fees for Sercombe and Nichols, increased the back room staff and set up our development squad so it's not a lack of finance. In relative terms, we haven't spent much and our wage budget isn't a lot. How can you say that though? nichols,sweeney,slocombe,smith,sercombe as well as the squad already here[many of them] are certain to be on a good salary imo.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 23:01:59 GMT
In relative terms, we haven't spent much and our wage budget isn't a lot. How can you say that though? nichols,sweeney,slocombe,smith,sercombe as well as the squad already here[many of them] are certain to be on a good salary imo. Even Shrewsbury have been spending cash of late, yes Shrewsbury, Avg crowds of 5k. What we have spent is not the norm for this club, but it is for L1.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 0:16:09 GMT
How can you say that though? nichols,sweeney,slocombe,smith,sercombe as well as the squad already here[many of them] are certain to be on a good salary imo. Even Shrewsbury have been spending cash of late, yes Shrewsbury, Avg crowds of 5k. What we have spent is not the norm for this club, but it is for L1. Your most likely correct and the dc interview about 10 players including a left winger as well as the hamer one about top 6 budget have raised expectations. I do believe the club have been caught out by the inflated market/salary situation in football. It strikes me that wael wants to produce players through the youth and develpment route and whoever the manager is will have to make do with a middling budget in the near future.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 4, 2017 5:57:35 GMT
Time for a little perspective, I think. Bradford went the entirety of last season unbeaten at home. It's a bloody hard place to get a result at the best of times, but when both your first choice centre backs are on international duty..... I could have swore both Sweeney and Lockyer played together when we got smashed at home to Peterborough. The fact is we have been conceding too many goals whoever has played, keep doing that and we wont pick up many points. Time to drop Mr undroppable
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Post by paulpirate on Sept 4, 2017 6:19:39 GMT
I could have swore both Sweeney and Lockyer played together when we got smashed at home to Peterborough. The fact is we have been conceding too many goals whoever has played, keep doing that and we wont pick up many points. Time to drop Mr undroppable its not Ellis's fault 😂
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Post by Marshy on Sept 4, 2017 6:29:19 GMT
I could have swore both Sweeney and Lockyer played together when we got smashed at home to Peterborough. The fact is we have been conceding too many goals whoever has played, keep doing that and we wont pick up many points. Time to drop Mr undroppable Yes and replace with Burn! We might as well let Corbyn be prime minister too.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 4, 2017 7:07:53 GMT
Time to drop Mr undroppable Yes and replace with Burn! We might as well let Corbyn be prime minister too. Was think more Lines and/or Brown myself I have no problems with Tom Lockyer, When he plays for the Wales first team his value will go through the roof
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Post by oldgas on Sept 4, 2017 7:35:23 GMT
If he continues to be poor I reckon DC will give him the old"You no longer feature in my plans and are free to look for a new club" routine in December whilst signing the left winger he missed out on in the window just gone. Surely if we missed out on the left winger DC was after, he has signed for another club and therefore will not be available in January. Equally if we were unable to sign him last week, why would we then be able to in January if he is still with his original club. I personally think we have shown a total lack of ambition in our signings when quite clearly we need at least three more , a midfielder, left winger and big centre forward of the type that destroyed us yesterday, as it's quite clear to me Harrison and Gaffney are not that type. There could be a number of possibilities, including the player in question deciding to stay with his parent club in the hope of breaking into the first team. Having failed in this he may be prepared to come to us in January. The fact is none of us know the situation with player recruitment because DC and the B o D keep their cards close to their chest.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 9:41:22 GMT
It wasnt a one off though, thats 2 thumpings now and its only the beginning of Sept For the record there is only one team in League One that have conceded more goals than us and that's Oldham, a team tipped for relegation. Its the same problem as last season conceding too many goals . There is too much emphasise on the teams ability going forward and not enough on its ability to keep a clean sheet. Fullbacks who have to constantly play up the field to deliver crosses leaves big gaps out wide and only 3 defensive players to cover...lockyer,Sweeney and O Clarke.Which becomes two when Clarke gets involved with an attack.If you have to keep relying on a centreforward like Harrison to keep making defensive clearances then you have to start thinking something isn't right in the balance of the team.
D.C. will get it right im sure, but so far HE hasn't evolved and improved from his errors of last season. There is enough quality throughout the team to win this league. D.C. has to get it right to achieve that though.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 4, 2017 10:05:52 GMT
Correct me if i'm wrong, But Bradford did only have 11 players on the field and played with a back 4..... they managed to get it right with "only" 3 defensive players
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 4, 2017 10:28:49 GMT
For the record there is only one team in League One that have conceded more goals than us and that's Oldham, a team tipped for relegation. Its the same problem as last season conceding too many goals . There is too much emphasise on the teams ability going forward and not enough on its ability to keep a clean sheet. Fullbacks who have to constantly play up the field to deliver crosses leaves big gaps out wide and only 3 defensive players to cover...lockyer,Sweeney and O Clarke.Which becomes two when Clarke gets involved with an attack.If you have to keep relying on a centreforward like Harrison to keep making defensive clearances then you have to start thinking something isn't right in the balance of the team.
D.C. will get it right im sure, but so far HE hasn't evolved and improved from his errors of last season. There is enough quality throughout the team to win this league. D.C. has to get it right to achieve that though.
Seriously? We're desperately short of a defensive CM unless OC suddenly finds last season's form and we have zilch on the left wing, top 10 looks our level this season with the hope that things will improve post January.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 15:54:02 GMT
Its the same problem as last season conceding too many goals . There is too much emphasise on the teams ability going forward and not enough on its ability to keep a clean sheet. Fullbacks who have to constantly play up the field to deliver crosses leaves big gaps out wide and only 3 defensive players to cover...lockyer,Sweeney and O Clarke.Which becomes two when Clarke gets involved with an attack.If you have to keep relying on a centreforward like Harrison to keep making defensive clearances then you have to start thinking something isn't right in the balance of the team.
D.C. will get it right im sure, but so far HE hasn't evolved and improved from his errors of last season. There is enough quality throughout the team to win this league. D.C. has to get it right to achieve that though.
Seriously? We're desperately short of a defensive CM unless OC suddenly finds last season's form and we have zilch on the left wing, top 10 looks our level this season with the hope that things will improve post January. There is enough quality Bradford didn't have a better team...just one bloke who can head a ball which Rovers don't have. They didn't have anyone with the skill of Bodin or Nicholls for a start. D.C. is not playing 4-4-2 he is playing 4-3-3 there is no place for a right winger let alone a left winger.
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Post by pirate on Sept 4, 2017 17:02:44 GMT
Seriously? We're desperately short of a defensive CM unless OC suddenly finds last season's form and we have zilch on the left wing, top 10 looks our level this season with the hope that things will improve post January. There is enough quality Bradford didn't have a better team...just one bloke who can head a ball which Rovers don't have. They didn't have anyone with the skill of Bodin or Nicholls for a start. D.C. is not playing 4-4-2 he is playing 4-3-3 there is no place for a right winger let alone a left winger.
And when he decides to play 4-4-2, what then?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 18:20:34 GMT
There is enough quality Bradford didn't have a better team...just one bloke who can head a ball which Rovers don't have. They didn't have anyone with the skill of Bodin or Nicholls for a start. D.C. is not playing 4-4-2 he is playing 4-3-3 there is no place for a right winger let alone a left winger.
And when he decides to play 4-4-2, what then? At present I would imagine he will only use it as a defensive formation. At a push he may play Telford / Nicholls on the left. Im sure that when HE decides HE will have a plan (?) time will tell I guess.
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Post by socrates on Sept 4, 2017 19:40:49 GMT
Our success over these last three years at home has been built on 4-4-2. I'd say we've used it in probably 90% of our home matches so it's a risk to try other things. Thing is if he wants to play lines and Sercombe together then there needs to be a Sincs or Olly Clarke with them which makes 4-4-2 impossible unless one of them is wide. Personally I think 4-4-2 with Bodin one side and Sercombe the other would be lethal but Sercombe had said a couple of times in interviews he likes to be in the middle. Sercombe is a quality player but DC is having trouble balancing the midfield now that he's here.
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