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Post by LJG on Oct 31, 2017 22:35:39 GMT
What the f**k am I doing with my life? Waiting to click on page 10 my love. X No wait ... Now! |
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Post by LJG on Oct 31, 2017 22:36:00 GMT
Waiting to click on page 10 my love. X No wait ... Now! Yessssssssss. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 2:28:28 GMT
Truth is we don't pay any of our bills , Court action instigated ,lack of a new stadium, loans from their own bank, debts mounted up significantly , the Colony is a pipe dream and so is a refurb of the Mem , way things are heading our owners will want out but let's just hope our only asset isn't stripped before then and they get outed before it's too late. Mark my words this isn't good . I'm usually a hopeless optimist regarding Rovers but my sources are extremely worried as now am I . No reason to doubt the sources as they only want what's best for the club . Saying it's the truth and proving it's the truth are worlds apart. Without any shadow of a doubt but there are also serious questions sorry stroke issues that need urgently to be addressed but somehow I don't see these questions/issues being addressed in the short term/long term so perhaps someone needs to force the hand urgently before we start making plans to update Twerton park . |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 2:30:54 GMT
Truth is we don't pay any of our bills , Court action instigated ,lack of a new stadium, loans from their own bank, debts mounted up significantly , the Colony is a pipe dream and so is a refurb of the Mem , way things are heading our owners will want out but let's just hope our only asset isn't stripped before then and they get outed before it's too late. Mark my words this isn't good . I'm usually a hopeless optimist regarding Rovers but my sources are extremely worried as now am I . No reason to doubt the sources as they only want what's best for the club . Is your source also Ed Ware? erm no fella but reading between the lines you've heard more than you're letting on |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 2:39:56 GMT
Truth is we don't pay any of our bills , Court action instigated ,lack of a new stadium, loans from their own bank, debts mounted up significantly , the Colony is a pipe dream and so is a refurb of the Mem , way things are heading our owners will want out but let's just hope our only asset isn't stripped before then and they get outed before it's too late. Mark my words this isn't good . I'm usually a hopeless optimist regarding Rovers but my sources are extremely worried as now am I . No reason to doubt the sources as they only want what's best for the club . That's all common knowledge, though, isn't it? "we don't pay any of our bills , Court action instigated" that's about a dispute, though, right? Not an inability to pay. "lack of a new stadium," Yeah, we know this. Not really a new thing. "loans from their own bank," wouldn't you if you had a bank? Be mental to use a different bank. "debts mounted up significantly" Yeah, coz they're investing more in the team and infrastructure than previously. " the Colony is a pipe dream and so is a refurb of the Mem " That's an opinion, isn't it? Not a fact. What have your sources told you, coz everything above you could have got from here or the Evening Post? Okay fella you may have an answer for all this hype and believe our new owner(s) and their installed glove puppet but don't you really think that with all the negativity surrounding the supervision of our club including the rumours 'cough cough' etc that we should just let the carnage unfold . Don't mind having massive egg on my boat but I'm afraid it'll look like a " I told you so" . Perhaps reign my posts in in say 6 months time and pin it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 2:48:17 GMT
Well if these facts/rumours come from a good source of an ex~director who has the best interests of the club at heart why is said ex~director not voicing these concerns publicly under his own name? I can only think of a few reasons: 1) they do not have facts themselves and do not want to risk their reputation/standing or legal action 2) they enjoy their seats in box 1 with hospitality too much and are happy for others to stir things up 3) they are unhappy with the takeover &/or its terms and want to stir up discontent 4) any others you guys can think of? Or; The source is not an ex~director or the facts/rumours are not true or pure speculation Having said that, something is not right in my opinion, based upon the following facts It takes 18 months, a few false landing messages from our chairman and a (positive?) feasibility study to decide the UWE deal is not viable; The Mem which was not viable suddenly becomes viable although no plans or ideas have been released; The colony apparently has been delayed due to a tax issue. Really what unforseen tax issue takes several months to resolve and stops planning being applied for? Well, I for one am confused........ Yeah, I'm with you. All the rumours seem like bullshit and all the information we get from the club seems like bullshit. What are we to do? Are the rumours bullshit ? I'm not so sure but let's be honest the club , their front man and their rhetoric aren't exactly disproving this are they? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 2:58:30 GMT
Truth is we don't pay any of our bills , Court action instigated ,lack of a new stadium, loans from their own bank, debts mounted up significantly , the Colony is a pipe dream and so is a refurb of the Mem , way things are heading our owners will want out but let's just hope our only asset isn't stripped before then and they get outed before it's too late. Mark my words this isn't good . I'm usually a hopeless optimist regarding Rovers but my sources are extremely worried as now am I . No reason to doubt the sources as they only want what's best for the club . That's all common knowledge, though, isn't it? "we don't pay any of our bills , Court action instigated" that's about a dispute, though, right? Not an inability to pay. "lack of a new stadium," Yeah, we know this. Not really a new thing. "loans from their own bank," wouldn't you if you had a bank? Be mental to use a different bank. "debts mounted up significantly" Yeah, coz they're investing more in the team and infrastructure than previously. " the Colony is a pipe dream and so is a refurb of the Mem " That's an opinion, isn't it? Not a fact. What have your sources told you, coz everything above you could have got from here or the Evening Post? investing what in the team exactly? Using the club transfer funds to sanction Nichols and also what infrastructure do you talk of ? Not our cat2 training facility or our stadium lol? Perhaps you talk of our b team but then furnish me with FACTS where they've invested their own money in this venture . ' Evolution ' f&cking don't make me laugh |
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Post by dinsdale on Nov 1, 2017 6:43:00 GMT
That's all common knowledge, though, isn't it? "we don't pay any of our bills , Court action instigated" that's about a dispute, though, right? Not an inability to pay. "lack of a new stadium," Yeah, we know this. Not really a new thing. "loans from their own bank," wouldn't you if you had a bank? Be mental to use a different bank. "debts mounted up significantly" Yeah, coz they're investing more in the team and infrastructure than previously. " the Colony is a pipe dream and so is a refurb of the Mem " That's an opinion, isn't it? Not a fact. What have your sources told you, coz everything above you could have got from here or the Evening Post? investing what in the team exactly? Using the club transfer funds to sanction Nichols and also what infrastructure do you talk of ? Not our cat2 training facility or our stadium lol? Perhaps you talk of our b team but then furnish me with FACTS where they've invested their own money in this venture . ' Evolution ' f&cking don't make me laugh Sadly i think you are right. Bar a new hand dryer and pie they have done f**k all |
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Post by dinsdale on Nov 1, 2017 6:52:50 GMT
I have been hearing nothing but negative stories about the board for the past few months. Are any of you still optimistic they are in it for the long haul and are going to deliver ?
I hated the period of slow decline following the failed promotion season of 99-00 and all the ill feeling towards the board that followed and i really hoped for a period of all pulling together and some relative success.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 1, 2017 6:56:21 GMT
Yes i have ultimate faith in the current owner only because they are our only option at the moment. Until a better option comes along (if Ever) then what else can we be
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You can now get Hot Dogs at the mem, what more could you want !
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 1, 2017 6:59:28 GMT
I have been hearing nothing but negative stories about the board for the past few months. Are any of you still optimistic they are in it for the long haul and are going to deliver ? I hated the period of slow decline following the failed promotion season of 99-00 and all the ill feeling towards the board that followed and i really hoped for a period of all pulling together and some relative success. ![]() |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 1, 2017 6:59:58 GMT
investing what in the team exactly? Using the club transfer funds to sanction Nichols and also what infrastructure do you talk of ? Not our cat2 training facility or our stadium lol? Perhaps you talk of our b team but then furnish me with FACTS where they've invested their own money in this venture . ' Evolution ' f&cking don't make me laugh Sadly i think you are right. Bar a new hand dryer and pie they have done f**k all Someone woke up on the wrong side of bed this morning? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 7:00:42 GMT
No they have not. Please provide evidence of this accusation or retract.
yes they have pal , wake up ffs They have shut off the funds you say ?
So the team have transfer listed players ? Coaching staff been reduced ? The youth teams have been reduced ? The youth coaching staff reduced ? The operational staff been reduced ? Food /drink for the players has been stopped ? Overnight trips for the first team been stopped ?
If all this scaremongering and agenda pushing is over a dispute in a fence job its laughable. Or is it the club decided the UWE offer was not financially in the clubs best interests for the future ?...you know like the way staying at Eastville wasn't in the clubs best long term interests so a more humbler option was chosen ? Or is it that the club are in the process of putting former planning to SGC after the preliminary talks and ideas went well ?
I should just enjoy the football and leave the other stuff to people who have some control over it. After all Wimbledon fans have seen the worst football ownership can offer and started over from way down the ladder and last I looked they were in the same league as Rovers now. There is always hope if positive people are around.
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Post by oldgas on Nov 1, 2017 7:55:46 GMT
As it is between 2 companies, is it really anyone else business currently? Seriously, a supplier allegedly threatening to sue Rovers/Dwane Sports for failure to pay an apparently large outstanding debt is no business of ours?? It does make you wonder what is going on if we can't even afford to pay for a poxy fence, in fact why did we want such an expensive fence in the first place given that the ground has survived for decades without one. Then again, if it were 1982........... |
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Post by justin blue on Nov 1, 2017 7:57:33 GMT
I have been hearing nothing but negative stories about the board for the past few months. Are any of you still optimistic they are in it for the long haul and are going to deliver ? I hated the period of slow decline following the failed promotion season of 99-00 and all the ill feeling towards the board that followed and i really hoped for a period of all pulling together and some relative success. I really can't make my mind up about the present regime at the moment, but I don't want to fuel speculation so I will keep my fears and woes to myself. I suppose I am in the wait and see camp. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 1, 2017 8:01:26 GMT
That's all common knowledge, though, isn't it? "we don't pay any of our bills , Court action instigated" that's about a dispute, though, right? Not an inability to pay. "lack of a new stadium," Yeah, we know this. Not really a new thing. "loans from their own bank," wouldn't you if you had a bank? Be mental to use a different bank. "debts mounted up significantly" Yeah, coz they're investing more in the team and infrastructure than previously. " the Colony is a pipe dream and so is a refurb of the Mem " That's an opinion, isn't it? Not a fact. What have your sources told you, coz everything above you could have got from here or the Evening Post? investing what in the team exactly? Using the club transfer funds to sanction Nichols and also what infrastructure do you talk of ? Not our cat2 training facility or our stadium lol? Perhaps you talk of our b team but then furnish me with FACTS where they've invested their own money in this venture . ' Evolution ' f&cking don't make me laugh Well Dwane has invested more than the previous regime (year on year). Not much more, but a bit more, istm. Doing up small things around the stadium, employing more staff, paying more (on average) for players. You might not like it, or you might not consider it very much (it isn't that much, imo) but you can't just say it didn't happen. That is where the rising debt comes from I would think. You can't just complain about the rising debt and then deny we're spending more money. The rising debt comes from spending more money. That's not just a fact, that's mathematics. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 8:01:44 GMT
yes they have pal , wake up ffs They have shut off the funds you say ?
So the team have transfer listed players ? Coaching staff been reduced ? The youth teams have been reduced ? The youth coaching staff reduced ? The operational staff been reduced ? Food /drink for the players has been stopped ? Overnight trips for the first team been stopped ?
If all this scaremongering and agenda pushing is over a dispute in a fence job its laughable. Or is it the club decided the UWE offer was not financially in the clubs best interests for the future ?...you know like the way staying at Eastville wasn't in the clubs best long term interests so a more humbler option was chosen ? Or is it that the club are in the process of putting former planning to SGC after the preliminary talks and ideas went well ?
I should just enjoy the football and leave the other stuff to people who have some control over it. After all Wimbledon fans have seen the worst football ownership can offer and started over from way down the ladder and last I looked they were in the same league as Rovers now. There is always hope if positive people are around.
He didn't say they'd closed the club down lol, but I think you mistake obtaining loans and using the clubs money to run a club rather than invest their own. They have invested f**k all of their own dinar I'm afraid . |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 8:05:00 GMT
investing what in the team exactly? Using the club transfer funds to sanction Nichols and also what infrastructure do you talk of ? Not our cat2 training facility or our stadium lol? Perhaps you talk of our b team but then furnish me with FACTS where they've invested their own money in this venture . ' Evolution ' f&cking don't make me laugh Well Dwane has invested more than the previous regime (year on year). Not much more, but a bit more, istm. Doing up small things around the stadium, employing more staff, paying more (on average) for players. You might not like it, or you might not consider it very much (it isn't that much, imo) but you can't just say it didn't happen. That is where the rising debt comes from I would think. You can't just complain about the rising debt and then deny we're spending more money. The rising debt comes from spending more money. That's not just a fact, that's mathematics. See above ^ |
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Nov 1, 2017 8:07:01 GMT
I have zero faith in them I'm afraid.
Wael seems like a nice fellow but his communication skills have fallen off a cliff since those early months after the takeover when he was full of it regarding the future plans for the club. I do not believe for one minute that anything significant changed on the UWE side of things to cause them to pull out. I do not believe for one minute that the Colony isn't being developed because of tax complication. I do believe that both aren't going ahead because they either can't or don't want to invest the necessary capital.
In the immediate aftermath of the UWE collapse I posted that I thought they were 'Fake Sheiks" and although that was heavily emotionally driven, 3 months on I still see it that way. More so in fact although clearly they aren't sheiks!
I really don't understand how the ALQs are getting such an easy ride from the fans just because Wael seems like a nice fellow. We should judge people by their actions not their words, not that there are any words anymore!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 8:09:13 GMT
Also not looking forward to saying I told you so when our club goes down the toilet . Too many fans on here that won't have a bad word to say against them as they refuse to believe the truth of what's actually happening at our beloved club. The same people who trusted in Higgs and his Bod when they proposed their bullshit upon us.
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