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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 31, 2017 21:09:34 GMT
Saying it's the truth and proving it's the truth are worlds apart. Truth is we don't pay any of our bills , Court action instigated , lack of a new stadium, loans from their own bank, debts mounted up significantly , the Colony is a pipe dream and so is a refurb of the Mem
The 4 out of 6 in bold are the truth at present, the first two seem possibles from the latest rumours? The problem seems to be a lot of these rumours are coming from ex Directors and its not clear if they are genuinely concerned or have their own interests at heart, it seems strange they are speaking up now but kept quiet when NH almost sent the club to the wall. Although it remains a mystery to me why the ALQ's ever got involved in Rovers, as I doubt the few million they could make out of Rovers would be worth their effort plus I doubt they'll want to spoil their good family name by asset strippping the club. Plus why compound the issues by buying the land at Almondsbury/building the fence. The colony is delayed. There is no evidence the Mem won't be developed. Yet. So at most 2 out of 6 'may' be facts. And still no evidence and no source. Even saying that it's Ed Ware that is sh** stirring is completely unconfirmed. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 31, 2017 21:10:31 GMT
Truth is we don't pay any of our bills , Court action instigated ,lack of a new stadium, loans from their own bank, debts mounted up significantly , the Colony is a pipe dream and so is a refurb of the Mem , way things are heading our owners will want out but let's just hope our only asset isn't stripped before then and they get outed before it's too late. Mark my words this isn't good . I'm usually a hopeless optimist regarding Rovers but my sources are extremely worried as now am I . No reason to doubt the sources as they only want what's best for the club . That's all common knowledge, though, isn't it? "we don't pay any of our bills , Court action instigated" that's about a dispute, though, right? Not an inability to pay. "lack of a new stadium," Yeah, we know this. Not really a new thing. "loans from their own bank," wouldn't you if you had a bank? Be mental to use a different bank. "debts mounted up significantly" Yeah, coz they're investing more in the team and infrastructure than previously. " the Colony is a pipe dream and so is a refurb of the Mem " That's an opinion, isn't it? Not a fact. What have your sources told you, coz everything above you could have got from here or the Evening Post? How do we know the fence issue is about a dispute and not an inability to pay, let's be honest if somebody gives a quote for a fence then builds it to spec what can there be a dispute about which can't be resolved w/o court action. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 31, 2017 21:10:49 GMT
Though it probably is.
And you have to ask why.
Edit. This realates to the 'fact' that we don't know EW is the trouble maker.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 31, 2017 21:11:49 GMT
That's all common knowledge, though, isn't it? "we don't pay any of our bills , Court action instigated" that's about a dispute, though, right? Not an inability to pay. "lack of a new stadium," Yeah, we know this. Not really a new thing. "loans from their own bank," wouldn't you if you had a bank? Be mental to use a different bank. "debts mounted up significantly" Yeah, coz they're investing more in the team and infrastructure than previously. " the Colony is a pipe dream and so is a refurb of the Mem " That's an opinion, isn't it? Not a fact. What have your sources told you, coz everything above you could have got from here or the Evening Post? How do we know the fence issue is about a dispute and not an inability to pay, let's be honest if somebody gives a quote for a fence then builds it to spec what can there be a dispute about which can't be resolved w/o court action. We don't know, but that doesn't stop some on here stating this stuff as fact. |
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Post by Okebournegas on Oct 31, 2017 21:18:30 GMT
Oops stumbled on here by mistake , see the usual sh** stirring by the usual posters is still going on then....
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 31, 2017 21:19:23 GMT
Truth is we don't pay any of our bills , Court action instigated , lack of a new stadium, loans from their own bank, debts mounted up significantly , the Colony is a pipe dream and so is a refurb of the Mem
The 4 out of 6 in bold are the truth at present, the first two seem possibles from the latest rumours? The problem seems to be a lot of these rumours are coming from ex Directors and its not clear if they are genuinely concerned or have their own interests at heart, it seems strange they are speaking up now but kept quiet when NH almost sent the club to the wall. Although it remains a mystery to me why the ALQ's ever got involved in Rovers, as I doubt the few million they could make out of Rovers would be worth their effort plus I doubt they'll want to spoil their good family name by asset strippping the club. Plus why compound the issues by buying the land at Almondsbury/building the fence. The colony is delayed. There is no evidence the Mem won't be developed. Yet. So at most 2 out of 6 'may' be facts. And still no evidence and no source. Even saying that it's Ed Ware that is sh** stirring is completely unconfirmed. There's zero evidence the Mem will be though, all there is was a meeting with local residents but that would have cost nothing to arrange. The latest excuse about tax at The Colony seems an odd one, as it really going to take 6 months just to resolve a tax problem. As I said ex Directors as these rumours are allegedly coming from more than one. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 31, 2017 21:19:35 GMT
That's all common knowledge, though, isn't it? "we don't pay any of our bills , Court action instigated" that's about a dispute, though, right? Not an inability to pay. "lack of a new stadium," Yeah, we know this. Not really a new thing. "loans from their own bank," wouldn't you if you had a bank? Be mental to use a different bank. "debts mounted up significantly" Yeah, coz they're investing more in the team and infrastructure than previously. " the Colony is a pipe dream and so is a refurb of the Mem " That's an opinion, isn't it? Not a fact. What have your sources told you, coz everything above you could have got from here or the Evening Post? How do we know the fence issue is about a dispute and not an inability to pay, let's be honest if somebody gives a quote for a fence then builds it to spec what can there be a dispute about which can't be resolved w/o court action. Maybe it wasn't to spec? I've no idea. I heard it mentioned it was a dispute, can't remember exactly where, though. Let's face it, not genuinely being able to afford to pay a few thousand for a fence, is so risible it can't be believed. There must be a reason we're not paying it. If we genuinely couldn't afford to pay that, what 5 months ago, we would have been wound up by now. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 21:30:08 GMT
How do we know the fence issue is about a dispute and not an inability to pay, let's be honest if somebody gives a quote for a fence then builds it to spec what can there be a dispute about which can't be resolved w/o court action. Maybe it wasn't to spec? I've no idea. I heard it mentioned it was a dispute, can't remember exactly where, though. Let's face it, not genuinely being able to afford to pay a few thousand for a fence, is so risible it can't be believed. There must be a reason we're not paying it. If we genuinely couldn't afford to pay that, what 5 months ago, we would have been wound up by now. £45k, no disputes raised, no replies to demands, writ being issued. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 31, 2017 21:34:10 GMT
Maybe it wasn't to spec? I've no idea. I heard it mentioned it was a dispute, can't remember exactly where, though. Let's face it, not genuinely being able to afford to pay a few thousand for a fence, is so risible it can't be believed. There must be a reason we're not paying it. If we genuinely couldn't afford to pay that, what 5 months ago, we would have been wound up by now. £45k, no disputes raised, no replies to demands, writ being issued. So we can't afford 45 grand? That doesn't make any sense. There must be a reason we have chosen not to pay. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 31, 2017 21:39:12 GMT
Maybe it wasn't to spec? I've no idea. I heard it mentioned it was a dispute, can't remember exactly where, though. Let's face it, not genuinely being able to afford to pay a few thousand for a fence, is so risible it can't be believed. There must be a reason we're not paying it. If we genuinely couldn't afford to pay that, what 5 months ago, we would have been wound up by now. £45k, no disputes raised, no replies to demands, writ being issued. So assuming I take you at face value the only fact is that we haven't paid for a fence? But we've only your word on that. |
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Post by banjoflyer on Oct 31, 2017 21:51:29 GMT
Well if these facts/rumours come from a good source of an ex~director who has the best interests of the club at heart why is said ex~director not voicing these concerns publicly under his own name?
I can only think of a few reasons:
1) they do not have facts themselves and do not want to risk their reputation/standing or legal action
2) they enjoy their seats in box 1 with hospitality too much and are happy for others to stir things up
3) they are unhappy with the takeover &/or its terms and want to stir up discontent
4) any others you guys can think of?
Or;
The source is not an ex~director or the facts/rumours are not true or pure speculation
Having said that, something is not right in my opinion, based upon the following facts
It takes 18 months, a few false landing messages from our chairman and a (positive?) feasibility study to decide the UWE deal is not viable;
The Mem which was not viable suddenly becomes viable although no plans or ideas have been released;
The colony apparently has been delayed due to a tax issue. Really what unforseen tax issue takes several months to resolve and stops planning being applied for?
Well, I for one am confused........
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Post by singupgas on Oct 31, 2017 21:54:27 GMT
Well if these facts/rumours come from a good source of an ex~director who has the best interests of the club at heart why is said ex~director not voicing these concerns publicly under his own name? I can only think of a few reasons: 1) they do not have facts themselves and do not want to risk their reputation/standing or legal action 2) they enjoy their seats in box 1 with hospitality too much and are happy for others to stir things up 3) they are unhappy with the takeover &/or its terms and want to stir up discontent 4) any others you guys can think of? Or; The source is not an ex~director or the facts/rumours are not true or pure speculation Having said that, something is not right in my opinion, based upon the following facts It takes 18 months, a few false landing messages from our chairman and a (positive?) feasibility study to decide the UWE deal is not viable; The Mem which was not viable suddenly becomes viable although no plans or ideas have been released; The colony apparently has been delayed due to a tax issue. Really what unforseen tax issue takes several months to resolve and stops planning being applied for? Well, I for one am confused........ You aren't the only one. I hate to say it but it is bit of a circus it would seem from the outside...anyrhing can happen, and totally unpredictable. |
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Post by piratesquarters on Oct 31, 2017 21:56:12 GMT
But the filed accounts and charges listed at Companies House aren't speculative Its not a new thing having a charge, if you look over the last 15 years we have had many, now we have 1. Summary of Mortgages, Charges and Satisfactions Total Number of Mortgages / Charges Registered 20 Number Outstanding (Includes Partially Satisfied) 1 Number Satisfied 19 Number Partially Satisfied 0 Date of Latest Mortgage Created 31 May 2017 Date of Latest Satisfaction 01 Oct 2016 I should be so lucky.  |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 31, 2017 21:58:32 GMT
Well if these facts/rumours come from a good source of an ex~director who has the best interests of the club at heart why is said ex~director not voicing these concerns publicly under his own name? I can only think of a few reasons: 1) they do not have facts themselves and do not want to risk their reputation/standing or legal action 2) they enjoy their seats in box 1 with hospitality too much and are happy for others to stir things up 3) they are unhappy with the takeover &/or its terms and want to stir up discontent 4) any others you guys can think of? Or; The source is not an ex~director or the facts/rumours are not true or pure speculation Having said that, something is not right in my opinion, based upon the following facts It takes 18 months, a few false landing messages from our chairman and a (positive?) feasibility study to decide the UWE deal is not viable; The Mem which was not viable suddenly becomes viable although no plans or ideas have been released; The colony apparently has been delayed due to a tax issue. Really what unforseen tax issue takes several months to resolve and stops planning being applied for? Well, I for one am confused........ Yeah, I'm with you. All the rumours seem like bullshit and all the information we get from the club seems like bullshit. What are we to do? |
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Oct 31, 2017 22:03:45 GMT
Well if these facts/rumours come from a good source of an ex~director who has the best interests of the club at heart why is said ex~director not voicing these concerns publicly under his own name? I can only think of a few reasons: 1) they do not have facts themselves and do not want to risk their reputation/standing or legal action 2) they enjoy their seats in box 1 with hospitality too much and are happy for others to stir things up 3) they are unhappy with the takeover &/or its terms and want to stir up discontent 4) any others you guys can think of? Or; The source is not an ex~director or the facts/rumours are not true or pure speculation Having said that, something is not right in my opinion, based upon the following facts It takes 18 months, a few false landing messages from our chairman and a (positive?) feasibility study to decide the UWE deal is not viable; The Mem which was not viable suddenly becomes viable although no plans or ideas have been released; The colony apparently has been delayed due to a tax issue. Really what unforseen tax issue takes several months to resolve and stops planning being applied for? Well, I for one am confused........ Old Abe Lincoln had a saying for the likes of those who are the present custodians of our club; You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 31, 2017 22:04:05 GMT
What the f**k am I doing with my life?
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Post by gregsy on Oct 31, 2017 22:24:55 GMT
What the f**k am I doing with my life? Moderating gaschat.... |
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Post by BrightonGas on Oct 31, 2017 22:26:18 GMT
What the f**k am I doing with my life? You need to get out more! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 22:27:11 GMT
What the f**k am I doing with my life? Waiting to click on page 10 my love. X |
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Post by LJG on Oct 31, 2017 22:35:22 GMT
What the f**k am I doing with my life? Waiting to click on page 10 my love. X Now. |
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