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Post by newmarketgas on Nov 2, 2017 10:34:49 GMT
I am in the believe it when I see it camp. I have no sources, contacts or inside info. I’ve seen my grand parents generation die off hoping they would see a new ground and progress and I’m pretty sure my old man isn’t holding out much hope and he’s only 65! I’m probably the same as the majority of fans to be honest I pay to watch most Home games and half a dozen away games each season because I’ve been brought up a Gashead. If nothing changes in my lifetime I’ll still be s Rovers fan, only one reminiscing about how we almost got the UWE once upon a time. I’m happy when we win I’m watered off when we lose but I don’t expect to see only wins otherwise what’s the point. I don’t really think I want us to be a Prem team as growing up I watched match of the day religiously and now I couldn’t tell you more than 2 players in most Prem teams. That level is entertainment now not football as I know it. I distinctly remember the hysteria on here when we announced UWE plans and even then I remember thinking I’ll believe it when I’m sat in it. Regardless of who owns the club. UTG Best post in an age on here. |
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Post by knowall on Nov 2, 2017 10:37:19 GMT
please tell us what you do to make things happen? - do you collect for 50/50? help sell programmes? help with the youth set-up? volunteer for anything? or do you just moan? I do none of those things but what I do do is pay through the turnstiles to watch my team as I have done since 1979 . I really can't see the training ground happening and nether can I see us playing in a revamped or new stadium any time in the future. How generous of you Paying at the turnstiles entitles you to watch a match - nothing more - why should it entitle you to complain about training grounds or a re-vamped stadium or anything else? just for the record I have been watching Rovers since 1946 - and that entitles me to nothing more than you and I expect nothing more than I pay for. Question - when you buy something at Boots - which you have probably been doing since 1979 - does it entitle you to complain about anything they do as a Company? Their training regime, their product range, the colour of their tunics or anything else? |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 2, 2017 10:40:52 GMT
I do none of those things but what I do do is pay through the turnstiles to watch my team as I have done since 1979 . I really can't see the training ground happening and nether can I see us playing in a revamped or new stadium any time in the future. How generous of you Paying at the turnstiles entitles you to watch a match - nothing more - why should it entitle you to complain about training grounds or a re-vamped stadium or anything else? just for the record I have been watching Rovers since 1946 - and that entitles me to nothing more than you and I expect nothing more than I pay for. Question - when you buy something at Boots - which you have probably been doing since 1979 - does it entitle you to complain about anything they do as a Company? Their training regime, their product range, the colour of their tunics or anything else? I'll have you know I was all over the Woolworths forum back in the day. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 2, 2017 10:43:30 GMT
. I've not twisted anything fella by the way albeit other than maybe some confusion regarding VAT exemption which isn't very transparent in the script of the VAT act 1994 schedule 9 group 1 paragraph 1(a) But I'm sure there are tax exemptions regarding sporting facilities Earlier you said: A couple of other things some of which you do know Dwayne sports is channel island based nothing new there but because for some unknown reason (sh1t advisors or have a go heroes) they don't know British tax law i.e. They thought that the building of the Colony and that of the UWE would be VAT free which it would be because new builds are VAT exempt but that only applies to British mainland based companies not those who are based in Guernsay. That would mean that our £40million pound plus pipe dream would've cost nearer to £50 million and the same rules apply to the state of the art training complex , none of it is going to happen. Before that you claimed to know "the truth" Also not looking forward to saying I told you so when our club goes down the toilet . Too many fans on here that won't have a bad word to say against them as they refuse to believe the truth of what's actually happening at our beloved club. The same people who trusted in Higgs and his Bod when they proposed their bullshit upon us. Truth is you can't face the truth , our club is heading for very tricky times indeed and I don't give 2 fncks who believes me on here or not , we are on a journey to oblivion, it also seems there is some truth in Ed Ware but not in the way it's purported within this thread. How can you be telling the truth if you've just admitted you don't even know what you're talking about regarding one of the claims you've made? Bit like Jeremy Corbyn Then  |
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Post by cj on Nov 2, 2017 10:43:37 GMT
1) I just cant see how the owners are going to take the massive financial step up to making the club championship ready. The new ground,training ground,cat 2 academy and better players can only be achieved by throwing large amounts of money into the club and there is no evidence that the owners are interested in doing that. 2) The way i see it wealthy owners come into clubs lose money but end up with a valuable product which sometimes makes a profit and can be sold for a fortune. So ive lost faith. 1) Evolution not Revolution. That is all Wael and Hamer have said since day 1. I think some have forgotten this or have chose to ignore this. Patience is needed. Rome wasn't built in a day! I think because we had immediate success on the pitch after Wael took over, some think what is going on off the pitch is too slow. (When I say some, I am not saying you bluebutterfly. Its just a passing comment). Wael has said many times that his short term goals are to make the match day experience better for the fans. We have seen a number of changes around the Mem which proves he is doing what he is saying. Improving the match day experience will increase income. Increased income helps with the FFP rules that we have to abide by. He has a team of people who are helping with his long term goals which is a new/redeveloped stadium and new training ground. This takes time. I remember Higgs saying when it was first announced that we want UWE and Sainsburys was having the Mem that it took 2 years to get to the point of making that announcement and then putting in planning permission. Redeveloping the Mem needs time for planning. Its not something that will be done in a few months. There is lots to think about like where will we play while its being done (last time we were suppose to go to Cheltenham!) The stadium may have to be moved into a different direction. Then you got the Mem gates and a hell of a lot of other stuff to think about. They probably got the old planning permission to see what issues the club had back then with the council and the locals to make sure our application this time for planning pleases everyone. I dont believe for a single second that there is anyone on this forum who knows 100% everything what is going on day to day with Wael and the work he is putting in. 2) Going by that statement, whoever was going to be our owners will never get your faith in them. |
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Post by gregsy on Nov 2, 2017 10:44:14 GMT
How generous of you Paying at the turnstiles entitles you to watch a match - nothing more - why should it entitle you to complain about training grounds or a re-vamped stadium or anything else? just for the record I have been watching Rovers since 1946 - and that entitles me to nothing more than you and I expect nothing more than I pay for. Question - when you buy something at Boots - which you have probably been doing since 1979 - does it entitle you to complain about anything they do as a Company? Their training regime, their product range, the colour of their tunics or anything else? I'll have you know I was all over the Woolworths forum back in the day. Ah, so it was you deleting all of my 'sack the board' posts.... B@stard.... |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 2, 2017 10:45:40 GMT
I'll have you know I was all over the Woolworths forum back in the day. Ah, so it was you deleting all of my 'sack the board' posts.... B@stard.... An ex director of Wollies bribed me with pick and mix. I have no regrets. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 2, 2017 10:46:59 GMT
Ah, so it was you deleting all of my 'sack the board' posts.... B@stard.... An ex director of Wollies bribed me with pick and mix. I have no regrets. did he drop them on the floor in front of you ? |
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Post by oldgas on Nov 2, 2017 10:58:08 GMT
I think that, back in the dim and distant past, Bristol Rovers invoked the ire of a Romany gypsy community, upset a Ju Ju Medicine man,went on the rampage in a mirror shop and went out and slaughtered the black cat population of Bristol.
We are continuing to pay the price for these rash acts, and will probably continue to do so far into the future.
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Post by cj on Nov 2, 2017 11:00:40 GMT
My faith is slowly leaking away as the months roll on and nothing happens. To keep my faith I need evidence that a plan and investment exist, and evidence it is going to happen. I can't just keep on believing in nothing, or I might as well sit at the bottom of the garden and see if any fairies are playing down there. I might be wrong, and something sensational will be announced, but how long do we have to wait? February 2018 for any news on the training ground? Sometime next year for the first proposals for the Mem? Even those are very optimistic timescales. I just can't see why the owners will pump milllions into a new training facility and even more millions into a shiny new Mem (whether through internal or external investment) if any revenue streams from the investment are perhaps 5 years away. I say this with respect. You say your faith is slowly leaking away as time rolls on. To keep your faith you need to see evidence that something is going to happen, asking how long do we have to wait. BUT.... Then you say Feb 2018 and sometime next year for news on the training ground and 1st proposals on the stadium are very optimistic timescales. So, obviously you know its going to take a long time to find out something is going to happen as its very optimistic timescales. Why then is your faith leaking away and you want evidence now that something is going happen otherwise you faith will keep slowly leaking away, when you obviously know nothing is going to happen anytime soon? I just don't get! Again, with respect, you clearly sound like you know patience will be needed but at the same time, you are struggling to be patient! My head is now fried! |
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Post by cj on Nov 2, 2017 11:03:55 GMT
Recap of the results gave a decent insight to the views of the on pitch matters from a boardroom perspective and generally bridged the gap between chairman and supporters. A monthly udate on the UWE of "nothing new to report" was at least an update, now we get sod all...I now feel as detached from the club as I ever have in 30 odd years. what is the point of having a update if f all is going on,bringing in a bloke to sort new pies is a joke If we’re lucky we might have cherry coke by the start of next season and candy floss What is the point of having monthly updates if going by a few people on here who wont believe what is being said anyway! |
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Post by cj on Nov 2, 2017 11:07:13 GMT
Why should he elaborate? The people peddling the negative stories don't provide proof. Why should someone saying something positive? Comment of the day surely! |
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Post by matealotblue on Nov 2, 2017 11:17:22 GMT
So 14 pages in and has anyone produced any concrete facts yet? The Ancient Romans were the first to develop concrete as a building material. They accomplished this by mixing lime, water, and volcanic ash. Three Gorges Dam is the largest concrete structure in the world, standing at 607 feet high and 7,575 feet long. About 6 billion cubic meters of concrete is made each year, which equals one cubic meter for every person on Earth. What have the Romans ever done for us? (Well someone had to say it😀) PS....It’s getting a bit like Life of Brian on here with some threads what with splitters and scabs etc. Onwards and upwards I say..... |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 2, 2017 11:23:03 GMT
The Ancient Romans were the first to develop concrete as a building material. They accomplished this by mixing lime, water, and volcanic ash. Three Gorges Dam is the largest concrete structure in the world, standing at 607 feet high and 7,575 feet long. About 6 billion cubic meters of concrete is made each year, which equals one cubic meter for every person on Earth. What have the Romans ever done for us? (Well someone had to say it😀) PS....It’s getting a bit like Life of Brian on here with some threads what with splitters and scabs etc. Onwards and upwards I say..... Welease Bwown! Welease Hawwison! Welease Dawell! |
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Post by matealotblue on Nov 2, 2017 11:26:55 GMT
What have the Romans ever done for us? (Well someone had to say it😀) PS....It’s getting a bit like Life of Brian on here with some threads what with splitters and scabs etc. Onwards and upwards I say..... Welease Bwown! Welease Hawwison! Welease Dawell! I guess we should always look on the bright side of life.....altogether now.. |
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Post by cj on Nov 2, 2017 11:48:40 GMT
From the Post... Wael Al-Qadi has explained how the club has been built up from scratch since his takeover at the Memorial Stadium last February. Al-Qadi was speaking as part of a panel on foreign investment in British football clubs during an event organised by Soccerex. " It's never easy for us." Said Al-Qadi. " For us we're building up a club from scratch. When we went in, there was just a first team and an academy. All the squads were understaffed so we worked on getting a proper staff in place. Now we have a good well staffed academy, we've created a development squad and the first team is fully equipped and has a large backroom staff. We're working on the training ground. Building it up slowly, I believe when you have everything in place that's when you can start having something which is sustainable and your squad can start competing properly." Al-Qadi also reaffirmed his often repeated mantra that he wants to build the club through evolution not revolution. " When we took over the club we said we wanted to build it in a sustainable way. It's evolution not revolution. We've gone about it quietly and slowly, the fans appreciate that. It's not about wasting or spending money on certain aspects of the game that might get you short term success - we are after long term success." Heavily involved with the Jordanian FA, Al-Qadi also spoke about how his ownership of Rovers has gone down back home. " Overall I can say they're quite excited about it." Admitted Al-Qadi. " You do get a minority who are like 'why didn't you buy a club in Jordan, why the UK?' But they're excited to follow our news." The Rovers owner was also asked whether he thinks the Gas can compete at Championship level in the future. " Of course, we have a good core group of players, a very good young manager and we've kept the squad together and added some quality to that group." Responded Al-Qadi. " As long as we keep them together that momentum is there." Al-Qadi also revealed how he remains looking at things as though he was still a normal fan. " I grew up and studied in England, I've been a football fan since the early '80s. I consider myself as a fan. That's the way I go about treating things at the club - as a fan." www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-rovers-owner-wael-al-436673This was in the Post just 8 weeks ago. To some, 8 weeks may be a long time and will want another update. But based on what he said, what update is actually needed? Only thing missing is stadium news but we know this will take a long time. But his comments answers a few things. He hasn't done nothing. He has done a lot. He also re-confirms evolution not revolution - doing things quietly and slowly. He wants long term success so doing things the right way, a sustainable way. I don't believe for a single second that anyone on this forum knows exactly what the Al-Qadi's finances are so those spreading crap about no funds etc just cut the nonsense out. Don't confuse quietly and slowly with having no money. The only thing that Wael said above that he got wrong was when he said the fans appreciate being sustainable and doing things quietly and slowly, evolution not revolution. Obviously some fans don't appreciate what he has done to date and getting things done the right way and are more intent of stirring things for some unknown agenda. I think some fans are so use to being fed up with previous owners down many decades that they won't trust any owner and therefore don't know a good thing when they see it! I mean no offense so apologies if anyone is offended. I just say it how I see it. I always thought that we all have different opinions but what was always the same was that we ALL wanted what was best for our club. Now in recent months, I am not so sure that is the case unfortunately. |
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Post by bradfordmeyerbiggs on Nov 2, 2017 12:02:54 GMT
Okay, a few questions for you: 1. What do you think the Al-Qadi's agenda is? 2. If not to build the football club, why have they added backroom staff and bought some land? [ 1) I have deleted this part of your post as I believe it's potentially libelous. HTE 2) The same reason that venture capitalists buy businesses. |
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Post by countygroundhotel on Nov 2, 2017 12:04:23 GMT
So what has he told us in that interview? Nothing not already known except the training ground is being worked on. Strangely 8 weeks later nothing has happened with the training ground, or to my knowledge a revision to the planning permission being submitted. Hence a vacuum of communication breeds rumours and ultimately distrust.
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Post by tommym9 on Nov 2, 2017 12:04:45 GMT
I don't believe for a single second that anyone on this forum knows exactly what the Al-Qadi's finances are so those spreading crap about no funds etc just cut the nonsense out. Don't confuse quietly and slowly with having no money. Wish more people would take your advice. Although having said that I wouldn't mind getting stadium news from the club instead of second hand from Corstairs and the like. A minor gripe in the grand scheme of things. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 2, 2017 12:08:32 GMT
I don't believe for a single second that anyone on this forum knows exactly what the Al-Qadi's finances are so those spreading crap about no funds etc just cut the nonsense out. Don't confuse quietly and slowly with having no money. Wish more people would take your advice. Although having said that I wouldn't mind getting stadium news from the club instead of second hand from Corstairs and the like. A minor gripe in the grand scheme of things. I sure if you ask the Mayor of Bristol he will give you some idea of what is going on  |
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