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Post by Dirt Dogg on Nov 2, 2017 18:10:44 GMT
In the time the Al-Qadis have owned BRFC, Lansdown has rebuilt Ashton Gate, invested in quality players and as a result City are competing for promotion to the Premier League. Simultaneously, Wael has destroyed the last hope (UWE) of Rovers competing with them .. oh, and erected a small tent. But he stands with the faithful on the terraces now and again, so he must be a good bloke. Yeah, just forget that Lansdown started the build 20 months before Wael bought us, or that he'd owned City for years, chucked endless amounts of money and achieved barely anything. |
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Post by knowall on Nov 2, 2017 18:20:54 GMT
A cannae go skat man, i was asking a bird once what her limits n stuff were just probing a bit to see what I'd get away with n she said, "I've no limits, last week a guy got me to sh** in his hand" safe to say I chuffking bottled it with that nutter  A few years ago i'd have had her down as a keeper Moderator - is this really appropriate on a football forum? |
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Post by Marshy on Nov 2, 2017 18:23:46 GMT
A cannae go skat man, i was asking a bird once what her limits n stuff were just probing a bit to see what I'd get away with n she said, "I've no limits, last week a guy got me to sh** in his hand" safe to say I chuffking bottled it with that nutter A few years ago i'd have had her down as a keeper It wasn’t Kell Roos was it? His hands were sh**. |
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Post by Big Jock on Nov 2, 2017 18:27:12 GMT
Apologies my wee pals. The last post was an analogy meant as my part of the threads debate.
My bad.I admit i never attended no dignity school.
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Post by cj on Nov 2, 2017 18:35:06 GMT
The clubs achievements are usually scored by what happens on the pitch. So yeah, that would be down to DC and the players. But I would also point out Wael's achievements. Wael recognised we were understaffed in all areas and rectified this. We now have a well staffed academy and a large 1st team backroom staff. He has created a development squad. All to benefit DC and the squad. Wael has improved the match day experience for the fans. Maybe little things for some but the little things mount up and does make a difference. Most of Wael's time has been on UWE and sounds like saved us from dodging a bullet by pulling out of the deal that Higgs previously set up. Wael could have easily went ahead with UWE's wishes to get us a stadium but it wouldn't have been a good deal in the end for us. Then he would be public enemy number 1. Thankfully he was strong enough and knows what he is doing to pull out of the deal. This decision alone to pull out could be worth more than promotion to us! Then you got the training ground plans. Also managing to keep DC at the club too with a new contract. All within 18 months and he isnt always in the country either! If we were still under Higgs, UWE wouldn't have happened anyway because we would still have the Mem to get rid of due to Sainsburys pulling out, which would have funded UWE. Higgs wouldn't have been able to get investments like Wael did. Would we have got the little upgrades around the Mem under Higgs? No. Would Higgs have allowed a bigger backroom staff so both the academy and 1st team could be properly staffed? No. Would Higgs have allowed a development squad? No. Would Higgs have purchased land to build a training ground to move us into the 21st century? No. If under Higgs, I doubt we would have kept DC. I believe were were heading for administration or worse. Now compare Higgs with what he did during his entire spell and what Wael has done in just 18 months, Wael deserves credit for what he has done. Not just simply being dismissed. how do you know wael can get the investment and that wasn’t the reason it didn’t go ahead,your just assuming like everyone else Why would uwe pull out the last minute? The only reason it didn’t go ahead is because someone pulled out on our side I assume We were told several times that we had the investments ready for UWE. Wael and Hamer did that. That's how I know. Who said UWE pulled out the last minute? I certainly didn't. Wael pulled out in the end because a deal couldn't be done with UWE. |
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Post by cj on Nov 2, 2017 18:48:08 GMT
The clubs achievements are usually scored by what happens on the pitch. So yeah, that would be down to DC and the players. But I would also point out Wael's achievements. Wael recognised we were understaffed in all areas and rectified this. We now have a well staffed academy and a large 1st team backroom staff. He has created a development squad. All to benefit DC and the squad. Wael has improved the match day experience for the fans. Maybe little things for some but the little things mount up and does make a difference. Most of Wael's time has been on UWE and sounds like saved us from dodging a bullet by pulling out of the deal that Higgs previously set up. Wael could have easily went ahead with UWE's wishes to get us a stadium but it wouldn't have been a good deal in the end for us. Then he would be public enemy number 1. Thankfully he was strong enough and knows what he is doing to pull out of the deal. This decision alone to pull out could be worth more than promotion to us! Then you got the training ground plans. Also managing to keep DC at the club too with a new contract. All within 18 months and he isnt always in the country either! If we were still under Higgs, UWE wouldn't have happened anyway because we would still have the Mem to get rid of due to Sainsburys pulling out, which would have funded UWE. Higgs wouldn't have been able to get investments like Wael did. Would we have got the little upgrades around the Mem under Higgs? No. Would Higgs have allowed a bigger backroom staff so both the academy and 1st team could be properly staffed? No. Would Higgs have allowed a development squad? No. Would Higgs have purchased land to build a training ground to move us into the 21st century? No. If under Higgs, I doubt we would have kept DC. I believe were were heading for administration or worse. Now compare Higgs with what he did during his entire spell and what Wael has done in just 18 months, Wael deserves credit for what he has done. Not just simply being dismissed. NH was a local businessman made good the ALQ's own a Jordanian bank, you can't compare the two? Regardless what information do you have that there decision to pull out of the UWE was a good one for the club, could you publish it on here as the rest of us haven't a clue? The fact remains all development seems to have ground to a halt so it's impossible to know where the club is now heading, apart from being heavily laden with debt exceeding anything NH borrowed. I said it sounds like we dodged a bullet and saved us from a bad deal. From what I have read (which is why I said it sounds like therefore its just an opinion). Im sure you read the same things. If its true (big if of course) then yes, he saved us from a bad deal. Rovers made a statement saying (I cant remember exact words) that some terms couldn't be agreed with UWE. UWE made their own statement saying they were shocked we ulled out the deal hoping negotiations would continue. We gave UWE a deadline and it passed. Wael wanted terms that would benefit the club but UWE didnt agree to them. Therefore to me (and I dont mean any disrespect here) if Wael accepted UWE's terms then the deal would be in their favour and not ours! |
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Nov 2, 2017 18:48:40 GMT
This Thread and the Regime one seem to.be the same so Mods why not merge. For those who want a brief summary, here you go:
some like waq some don't
some like the board some don't
some fans are happy some are not
some talk about loans, Dwayne Sport, tax and pretend they know about that stuff.
Some like Higgs, some don't
I think that's about it
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Post by Marshy on Nov 2, 2017 18:51:19 GMT
This Thread and the Regime one seem to.be the same so Mods why not merge. For those who want a brief summary, here you go: some like waq some don't some like the board some don't some fans are happy some are not some talk about loans, Dwayne Sport, tax and pretend they know about that stuff. Some like Higgs, some don't I think that's about it That’s some post! |
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Post by paulpirate on Nov 2, 2017 18:53:53 GMT
how do you know wael can get the investment and that wasn’t the reason it didn’t go ahead,your just assuming like everyone else Why would uwe pull out the last minute? The only reason it didn’t go ahead is because someone pulled out on our side I assume We were told several times that we had the investments ready for UWE. Wael and Hamer did that. That's how I know. Who said UWE pulled out the last minute? I certainly didn't. Wael pulled out in the end because a deal couldn't be done with UWE. what they were willing to pay yes,obviously wasn’t enough and will cost us more in the long run Everyone blames the uwe but who knows the real story |
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Post by cj on Nov 2, 2017 19:00:02 GMT
We were told several times that we had the investments ready for UWE. Wael and Hamer did that. That's how I know. Who said UWE pulled out the last minute? I certainly didn't. Wael pulled out in the end because a deal couldn't be done with UWE. what they were willing to pay yes,obviously wasn’t enough and will cost us more in the long run Everyone blames the uwe but who knows the real story Exactly but we or I can only go by the the info the club have given. Then we can chose to believe it or not. We pulled for a reason and according to the club, we had the funds ready. So it SOUNDS like something wasn't right in the deal and the club even confirmed. Personally, I dont blame UWE. They wanted the best deal for them which didn't suit us. SOUNDS like no comprise between them both. |
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Post by Big Jock on Nov 2, 2017 19:02:36 GMT
This Thread and the Regime one seem to.be the same so Mods why not merge. For those who want a brief summary, here you go: some like waq some don't some like the board some don't some fans are happy some are not some talk about loans, Dwayne Sport, tax and pretend they know about that stuff. Some like Higgs, some don't I think that's about it I cannae believe how long some argue on end for about the same old crap. Its all down to how yous view things and yer own perceptions and opinion on it al. Fur example if i was to tell ya: Sooty and Sweep have come forward saying they were abused for years at the BBC and claim they had fingers shoved up their backsides and the heirachy at the Beeb knew all along. Would i be right?  |
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Post by dinsdale on Nov 2, 2017 19:03:26 GMT
That's what we are thinking of calling General Chat on this site. Good thinking.  Maybe Dinsdale should have pointed out which folk he was talking about, instead of fishing ? Just the names put on here Ed Ware mostly was it not? |
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Post by gregsy on Nov 2, 2017 19:07:08 GMT
Good thinking. Maybe Dinsdale should have pointed out which folk he was talking about, instead of fishing ? Talking of fishing, I used to use the fishing emoji to indicate irony. I seem to have lost most of them when I post, is that across the board? There's been a few issues with this for example 4 question marks come up as?  Sadly a proboards issue, so not much can be done.... |
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Post by cj on Nov 2, 2017 19:08:48 GMT
Exactly. So we can all try and get along and try and be positive or we can all bicker and try to be negative. The way I see it Wael is not guilty until proven otherwise. So some should get off his back and support the stuff he has done to improve us. Some things said about Wael, based on just opinions and not fact, is out of order. |
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Post by Marshy on Nov 2, 2017 19:09:56 GMT
This Thread and the Regime one seem to.be the same so Mods why not merge. For those who want a brief summary, here you go: some like waq some don't some like the board some don't some fans are happy some are not some talk about loans, Dwayne Sport, tax and pretend they know about that stuff. Some like Higgs, some don't I think that's about it I cannae believe how long some argue on end for about the same old crap. Its all down to how yous view things and yer own perceptions and opinion on it al. Fur example if i was to tell ya: Sooty and Sweep have come forward saying they were abused for years at the BBC and claim they had fingers shoved up their backsides and the heirachy at the Beeb knew all along. Would i be right? That sounds similar to top of the pops when Jimmy Saville was presenting. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 2, 2017 19:10:11 GMT
You'll need to ask someone else about Wael's wealth as I have no idea. As to what I've seen a lot of backroom staff arriving, only the likes of DC will know how effective those people have been, all paid for by a loan from Dwane Sports secured against the football club's only real asset. Hence be sceptical about what any football club owner tells you. When I see that loan being repaid in the accounts then I'll see that the evolution is working and we are moving to self sufficiency. Do you think we'll see that in the next set of accounts? But keep believing after all Wael is a fan just like the last owner and where did he take us? Compare the state of us when Higgs left to the state of us now under Wael, can you not see any improvements? Evolution is working. Wael said it will be a quiet slow process. NH left us around £6/7m in debt with most of the money owed to people in the Bristol area bar the wonga loan, now we're £10m in debt to a company based in Jersey/owed by Jordanians, am I missing something but what's the improvements? As far as the Development Squad if the ALQ's sold up I assume that would be disbanded just as quick as it was formed to save on costs, so bar a bit of tarting up of the Mem we're virtually the same club the ALQ's purchased, although we've lost Yatesy and the snake and Monty along the way and none of them seem to have been replaced. |
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Post by cj on Nov 2, 2017 19:14:35 GMT
Compare the state of us when Higgs left to the state of us now under Wael, can you not see any improvements? Evolution is working. Wael said it will be a quiet slow process. Sorry but I can smell a rat with this Dwayne sports this could be a way they get there hands on the mem to build houses etc the lands worth a fortune for that purpose they ain't got no scruples these businessmen same as the training ground if they can get planning for houses. Hope I'm wrong but just got that sneaky feeling UTG I respect your opinion because you said its a feeling that you have and not treated what you believe as fact or made some crap up about a source told you. I hope you are wrong too. I think we all do. |
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Post by gregsy on Nov 2, 2017 19:17:20 GMT
This Thread and the Regime one seem to.be the same so Mods why not merge. For those who want a brief summary, here you go: some like waq some don't some like the board some don't some fans are happy some are not some talk about loans, Dwayne Sport, tax and pretend they know about that stuff. Some like Higgs, some don't I think that's about it A lot of the threads could be merged, which ultimately asks the question why new threads on similar topics were started.... I guess when people requiring a quick answer to a question it makes sense, but we do have 4 threads on one subject currently.... If I get 4 or more likes for this post I'll merge them down.... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2017 19:17:35 GMT
Exactly. So we can all try and get along and try and be positive or we can all bicker and try to be negative. The way I see it Wael is not guilty until proven otherwise. So some should get off his back and support the stuff he has done to improve us. Some things said about Wael, based on just opinions and not fact, is out of order. Are you wael's solicitor ? |
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Nov 2, 2017 19:26:25 GMT
Should never have given them access to the corridors of power after they were bought out.
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