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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 8, 2017 12:11:42 GMT
The funnest thing about this tread is that there is not a single mention on the other forum about this latest bullshit ...... Which forum, Bert Tann is dropping similar hints on the OTIB and BS5 started the "fencegate" thread on Gasheads, or are you talking about the Mumsnet again? The players not being paid.... |
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Post by aghast on Nov 8, 2017 15:13:38 GMT
I have no idea if all the rumours have any substance at all, but the owners do.
All this speculation and bad feeling, which has gone on for several days now, could have been nipped in the bud by a short statement from WAQ confirming that cash flow, the rebuild and the training ground are still on track.
The fact we've heard nothing doesn't in itself make me believe the stories, but it does nothing to make me think the rumours must be untrue.
I suppose you could argue that they don't have to issue statements confirming that things which didn't happen haven't happened.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 8, 2017 15:22:27 GMT
I suppose you could argue that they don't have to issue statements confirming that things which didn't happen haven't happened. Yes, for me that's absolutely spot on. Otherwise next week someone will start a rumour that Darrell and Wael fell out coz Darrell refused to start Wael's daughter alongside Broadbent in the last league game, which would have to be true unless they immediately refuted it, and would be true until they did refute it. And would probably be true again after they stopped refuting it. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 8, 2017 15:34:12 GMT
I suppose you could argue that they don't have to issue statements confirming that things which didn't happen haven't happened. Yes, for me that's absolutely spot on. Otherwise next week someone will start a rumour that Darrell and Wael fell out coz Darrell refused to start Wael's daughter alongside Broadbent in the last league game, which would have to be true unless they immediately refuted it, and would be true until they did refute it. And would probably be true again after they stopped refuting it. This is slightly different accusation though and surely it's more worthy of a club statement than Brexit ever was, particularly when it's now spread across both forms and the FB appreciation page. |
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Post by newmarketgas on Nov 8, 2017 15:42:27 GMT
I said right at the start with the new owners, that we will have to get used to not having all the info you get when local chaps owned us.
As you can see by the name, I live very near Newmarket, we have a lot of racing yard owners, stud owners and horse owners from the same part of the World that our guys come from. They do not shout about or discuss business with anyone, these guys buy yards or studs and you might not know about it for years, you might think they bought it or hear a whisper but they just do not feel the need to tell everyone, even when working for these folk they surprise you all the time.
One thing I can say, they are very honest and I really don't think they would lie to us. The big but is, they are very shrewd business people, so they might well sell us on, but I don't think they would let us die ( simply bad business and a loss ).
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Post by nortongas1 on Nov 8, 2017 15:58:01 GMT
Bumped into a 1st team player last night at the casino and i asked if they were paid on time and he his answer was a firm YES
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Post by northsidegas on Nov 8, 2017 16:10:30 GMT
I said right at the start with the new owners, that we will have to get used to not having all the info you get when local chaps owned us. As you can see by the name, I live very near Newmarket, we have a lot of racing yard owners, stud owners and horse owners from the same part of the World that our guys come from. They do not shout about or discuss business with anyone, these guys buy yards or studs and you might not know about it for years, you might think they bought it or hear a whisper but they just do not feel the need to tell everyone, even when working for these folk they surprise you all the time. One thing I can say, they are very honest and I really don't think they would lie to us. The big but is, they are very shrewd business people, so they might well sell us on, but I don't think they would let us die ( simply bad business and a loss ). "hey wael why the long face" |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 8, 2017 16:20:07 GMT
Yes, for me that's absolutely spot on. Otherwise next week someone will start a rumour that Darrell and Wael fell out coz Darrell refused to start Wael's daughter alongside Broadbent in the last league game, which would have to be true unless they immediately refuted it, and would be true until they did refute it. And would probably be true again after they stopped refuting it. This is slightly different accusation though and surely it's more worthy of a club statement than Brexit ever was, particularly when it's now spread across both forms and the FB appreciation page. But the logic stays the same. 'If they don't deny it it must be true.' That's nonsense. |
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Post by popuppirate on Nov 8, 2017 17:33:46 GMT
Bumped into a 1st team player last night at the casino and i asked if they were paid on time and he his answer was a firm YES Right, so they're paying our players too much now if they've got cash to throw away at casinos. Fact. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 8, 2017 17:58:24 GMT
Bumped into a 1st team player last night at the casino and i asked if they were paid on time and he his answer was a firm YES Surprised a 1st team player is out at a casino the night before a game! |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 8, 2017 18:04:22 GMT
Bumped into a 1st team player last night at the casino and i asked if they were paid on time and he his answer was a firm YES Surprised a 1st team player is out at a casino the night before a game! Pretty sure the bloke in question works as a cloakroom attendant there, to supplement his meagre earnings with us. Fact. He used to work as a fence erector, but did his back in. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 8, 2017 18:30:16 GMT
This is slightly different accusation though and surely it's more worthy of a club statement than Brexit ever was, particularly when it's now spread across both forms and the FB appreciation page. But the logic stays the same. 'If they don't deny it it must be true.' That's nonsense. No, but it leads to the rumours increasing and what business wants rumours like that spreading when they can be nipped in the bud with a quick short statement on the OS. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 8, 2017 19:07:25 GMT
But the logic stays the same. 'If they don't deny it it must be true.' That's nonsense. No, but it leads to the rumours increasing and what business wants rumours like that spreading when they can be nipped in the bud with a quick short statement on the OS. Because, as I just posted, that will lead to giving credence to every other rumour that they don't refute. So they'll have to refute everything, however ridiculous. And they'll effectively never be able to say 'no comment' ever again. |
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Post by pucklegas on Nov 8, 2017 19:22:27 GMT
Surprised a 1st team player is out at a casino the night before a game! Pretty sure the bloke in question works as a cloakroom attendant there, to supplement his meagre earnings with us. Fact. He used to work as a fence erector, but did his back in. Incorrect he did not get paid for the fence erecting! |
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Post by madgas on Nov 8, 2017 19:23:25 GMT
Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. So much breeze, tinfoil and bro science going on. Personally I don’t believe gasincider. He might be right but he has not presented enough evidence to convince me. It’s not refusing to see the through woods... it’s based on the evidence. On the one hand, I’m experiencing the best 3 years following the gas, I’ve seen albeit small but continued improvements to at the Mem, players consistently express that team spirit is unlike other clubs, the best manager in my lifetime sign a long term contract, manager express that the board are trying to improve infrastructure, plans to build a new training ground, a new highly rated commercial director, new meals at the ground, contactless payments, ticket prices frozen since takeover (rightly), a new development squad, fees actually paid for players, other clubs talk highly of conduct during negotiations. On the other, we have the big one- UWE and a man I don’t know, using a monkier (like all us) saying that people that he won’t name are concerned about things other than a fence, that he won’t tell us about... The issue with this: consider im wrong. Consider the apocalypse is coming. That’s not on me. I’ve looked at the evidence, I’ve considered both sides and I’ve come to the only logical conclusion on the facts avaliable. It is on those ‘sitting on facts’ they won’t disclose. If you can’t reveal your source- you are not a messenger. You are having a laugh.
I only post messages following info received within the club and I have stopped posting info recently as a result of messages like yours. Perhaps you'd like to see a few sackings within the club, as that is what would happen. During my four months absence, this forum has deteriorated to a new low.
Still, at least it's a glorious day for Geoff's funeral and I look forward to seeing Gasheads I have not seen since the last home game of last season.
I might of missed the point but how has this got anything to do people getting sacked? My point is that we’re all total strangers. We spend a lot of time arguing over subjective elements of the game, formations, line ups, signings, good or bad windows. My POV is based on the balance of evidence that I’ve seen. It’s not unreasonable to dismiss the hearsay that hasn’t been backed up. There is no criticism of being wrong, I might be wrong, there could be the worst disaster. My frustration comes when people post the same stuff without detailing further. |
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Post by barbarycoaster on Nov 8, 2017 20:39:14 GMT
Failing to pay one person (without explanation) will inevitably lead to speculation that you can’t pay other people.
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Post by dinsdale on Nov 9, 2017 15:22:23 GMT
Some bloke on facebook claims Ed Ware is trying to get us to swap the mem for uwe
“Your all wrong and ed is a great guy who loves the club
What ed has put forward is true in parts but it would be a turnkey stadium in exchange for the mem and student accommodation at UWE the stadium would belong to current owners
Not ed or the Chinese hope this clears things up”
States Ed is on holiday and will mention it on his return
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Post by dinsdale on Nov 9, 2017 15:23:40 GMT
“I haven’t seen any plans ian but I am pretty sure it would come from land allocated for the stadium project. Ed is on holiday at present I am sure he will explain the situation on his return
Not sure if he knows it’s out there in the public domain yet
I only spoke up because I know Ed’s love for the club and although this is a business deal for him as he said to me it’s a win win situation”
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Post by dinsdale on Nov 9, 2017 15:25:51 GMT
Some bloke on facebook claims Ed Ware is trying to get us to swap the mem for uwe “Your all wrong and ed is a great guy who loves the club What ed has put forward is true in parts but it would be a turnkey stadium in exchange for the mem and student accommodation at UWE the stadium would belong to current owners Not ed or the Chinese hope this clears things up” States Ed is on holiday and will mention it on his return A turnkey or a turnkey project (also spelled turn-key) is a type of project that is constructed so that it can be sold to any buyer as a completed product. This is contrasted with build to order, where the constructor builds an item to the buyer's exact specifications, or when an incomplete product is sold with the assumption that the buyer would complete it. An advantage of the Turnkey Projects is that it is a way of obtaining a substantial economic profit from an asset. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 9, 2017 15:27:26 GMT
Did we learn nothing from not owning our own stadium for 50 years?
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