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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 24, 2017 9:32:51 GMT
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Post by Baxtinho on Nov 24, 2017 9:40:29 GMT
Bored of all this negativity. Why are people so quick to assume the worst?!
Our situation isn't dire, our best player is imminently returning to fitness, form of our defenders will surely pick up, and even if it doesn't, it's not as if we're cast adrift at the bottom and there's no hope.
It's not even Christmas yet and some on here seem to have given up. Yes we're a bit sh** at the moment, we've seen worse and we likely will again.
Last thing we want to do is scare DC off with all the crap and rumours and exaggerating ITK knobhead posts having pops at him, Wael, Hamer, the owning family or even bloody Gorringe - who's only been here five minutes.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 24, 2017 9:43:15 GMT
Bored of all this negativity. Why are people so quick to assume the worst?! Our situation isn't dire, our best player is imminently returning to fitness, form of our defenders will surely pick up, and even if it doesn't, it's not as if we're cast adrift at the bottom and there's no hope. It's not even Christmas yet and some on here seem to have given up. Yes we're a bit sh** at the moment, we've seen worse and we likely will again. Last thing we want to do is scare DC off with all the crap and rumours and exaggerating ITK knobhead posts having pops at him, Wael, Hamer, the owning family or even bloody Gorringe - who's only been here five minutes. Our owners have asked us to lower our expectations not comment on the team we have the best team in the league until proven different I wondered how low our owners want us to go before we will be happy |
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Post by whoblue on Nov 24, 2017 9:48:14 GMT
We have to remember BRFC is a beast that, at the moment only consumes vast amounts of cash. All the things we would like to see... stadium, training ground, players, etc all take even GREATER amounts of cash. There is not one of us, as fans of this club, that would not want to progress these projects as quickly as possible if we had the money to do so... but I'm pretty sure we'd be listening to financial advisors and reading the feasibility studies before rushing ahead.
We have had taken great strides forward these last few seasons, and we need to take stock, review the plans (for growth, etc), and then push on. Out of choice, I too would want promotion at the end of this season (last season ideally) but we have to be realistic.
Keep the faith
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Post by amgas on Nov 24, 2017 11:12:14 GMT
I think we have all been told to lower our expectations, and suspect over the coming months we will. There was outrage when Buckle told us to do this, so no reason why Hamer should get an easy ride for saying the same thing, particularly when he helped build the expectation in the first place.
The strange thing is originally we would have all been really happy if they built the training ground to the plans submitted in the past, it was actually the club that said "Not good enough, we are going to look at bigger and better".
Hamer sort of told the truth last night, no money for Mem, limited money for training setup and ongoing support of loses at the level we are. Financially I am confident they won't let us die and are not here to asset strip.
He does annoy me with his attitude though quotes like "Crazy Gang", "I don't see Bristol as a two club city" and insisting on calling the Stadium the Memorial Ground, when it was renamed Memorial Stadium years ago are simple things he could address. We should be clear we are aiming for the Championship even if it takes us years to get there and I see no reason to ignore the local competition be it 1982 Ltd or any other leisure activity in Bristol.
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Post by inee on Nov 24, 2017 11:25:40 GMT
Hamer hasn't called us lady gardens yet though, i've supported the club for donkeys years and just see this as another season in the annuls of the gas, like many i don't believe stuff the club says until it's been delivered, not being negative just past experience of getting excited then let down, thats one of the reasons i love this club, it kinda mirrors the struggles in life we face, i would hate it if we suddenly became one of those money no object souless clubs
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Post by Centenary Gas on Nov 24, 2017 11:42:38 GMT
We may not have a top 6 league one budget, but did I miss the part about us having a bottom 4 league one budget?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 12:03:32 GMT
As things are going could easily loose a 1000 season ticket renewals next year and easily another 1000 off the pay-on-the-day gate (possibly more) and that would increase losses by three quaters of a £ million which would probably mean further budget cuts and further jeopardise league 1 status even more even if we survive this year. So if asked where I now expect the Gas to be in 2 or 3 years then I'd say a struggling League 2 club at best under current ownrship with uncertainty being even greater than now and crowds down to the loyal 5000. So much potential lost and with an ever aging supporters base adding to problem as a new generation of fans look elsewhere.
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Post by garystash on Nov 24, 2017 12:08:20 GMT
Where is the steady progress over a number of years option?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 24, 2017 12:09:28 GMT
As things are going could easily loose a 1000 season ticket renewals next year and easily another 1000 off the pay-on-the-day gate (possibly more) and that would increase losses by three quaters of a £ million which would probably mean further budget cuts and further jeopardise league 1 status even more even if we survive this year. So if asked where I now expect the Gas to be in 2 or 3 years then I'd say a struggling League 2 club at best under current ownrship with uncertainty being even greater than now and crowds down to the loyal 5000. So much potential lost and with an ever aging supporters base adding to problem as a new generation of fans look elsewhere. That's about how i see it at the moment Windy, and with DC moving on which i'm sure will happen soon, we will be in bigger trouble. AT this moment in time i'm considering not renewing my season ticket which I've had for 20+ years and just pick and choose the games i want to watch... . and that is a very sad thing for me to say |
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Post by Parrot on Nov 24, 2017 12:10:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 12:20:01 GMT
As things are going could easily loose a 1000 season ticket renewals next year and easily another 1000 off the pay-on-the-day gate (possibly more) and that would increase losses by three quaters of a £ million which would probably mean further budget cuts and further jeopardise league 1 status even more even if we survive this year. So if asked where I now expect the Gas to be in 2 or 3 years then I'd say a struggling League 2 club at best under current ownrship with uncertainty being even greater than now and crowds down to the loyal 5000. So much potential lost and with an ever aging supporters base adding to problem as a new generation of fans look elsewhere. That's about how i see it at the moment Windy, and with DC moving on which i'm sure will happen soon, we will be in bigger trouble. AT this moment in time i'm considering not renewing my season ticket which I've had for 20+ years and just pick and choose the games i want to watch... . and that is a very sad thing for me to say That's should be a real worry to the owners as you are one of the most loyal and supportive posters on hear and not one for posting rumours or negativity. If people like you give up their season ticket then many others will be thinking the same. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 13:01:29 GMT
We have to remember BRFC is a beast that, at the moment only consumes vast amounts of cash. All the things we would like to see... stadium, training ground, players, etc all take even GREATER amounts of cash. There is not one of us, as fans of this club, that would not want to progress these projects as quickly as possible if we had the money to do so... but I'm pretty sure we'd be listening to financial advisors and reading the feasibility studies before rushing ahead. We have had taken great strides forward these last few seasons, and we need to take stock, review the plans (for growth, etc), and then push on. Out of choice, I too would want promotion at the end of this season (last season ideally) but we have to be realistic. Keep the faith There are many small clubs out there with crowds of a lot less than ours that have built small but decent stadiums and acquired and built reasonable training facilities. Why have we failed? I guess it partly bad luck over the years but there must also be an element of owners who have lack vision and ambition. There was always huge potential but no one seems able or willing to exploit this. |
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Post by Marshy on Nov 24, 2017 13:17:07 GMT
We have to remember BRFC is a beast that, at the moment only consumes vast amounts of cash. All the things we would like to see... stadium, training ground, players, etc all take even GREATER amounts of cash. There is not one of us, as fans of this club, that would not want to progress these projects as quickly as possible if we had the money to do so... but I'm pretty sure we'd be listening to financial advisors and reading the feasibility studies before rushing ahead. We have had taken great strides forward these last few seasons, and we need to take stock, review the plans (for growth, etc), and then push on. Out of choice, I too would want promotion at the end of this season (last season ideally) but we have to be realistic. Keep the faith There are many small clubs out there with crowds of a lot less than ours that have built small but decent stadiums and acquired and built reasonable training facilities. Why have we failed? I guess it partly bad luck over the years but there must also be an element of owners who have lack vision and ambition. There was always huge potential but no one seems able or willing to exploit this. We’re always the bridesmaid and never the bride. Are we fat and ugly, or just unlucky? |
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Post by eastville1966 on Nov 24, 2017 13:23:24 GMT
Are we fat and ugly, or just unlucky?
Just ugly. In my case at least. A face made for radio.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 13:26:38 GMT
We have to remember BRFC is a beast that, at the moment only consumes vast amounts of cash. All the things we would like to see... stadium, training ground, players, etc all take even GREATER amounts of cash. There is not one of us, as fans of this club, that would not want to progress these projects as quickly as possible if we had the money to do so... but I'm pretty sure we'd be listening to financial advisors and reading the feasibility studies before rushing ahead. We have had taken great strides forward these last few seasons, and we need to take stock, review the plans (for growth, etc), and then push on. Out of choice, I too would want promotion at the end of this season (last season ideally) but we have to be realistic. Keep the faith There are many small clubs out there with crowds of a lot less than ours that have built small but decent stadiums and acquired and built reasonable training facilities. Why have we failed? I guess it partly bad luck over the years but there must also be an element of owners who have lack vision and ambition. There was always huge potential but no one seems able or willing to exploit this. Very true as Bluebutterfly points out Walsall FC seem to operated at a profit and have a modest stadium, training ground and an acedemy so as you say this should not be beyond our reach if you manage things properly. |
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Post by gasincider on Nov 24, 2017 13:39:34 GMT
But we don't have advertising hoardings overlooking the motorway and earning a fortune as Walsall do.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 14:23:20 GMT
Not enough options.
I see it as there is a confidence and organisation crisis on the pitch. That will get resolved ,its just D.C. finding the formula or getting people into the club in January.
Mid-table this season (9th-16th)
Plans for a new Mem will be put forward by the end of the season.
PP will be sought ,funding acquired.
The team and Colony will get more funding.
Upper midtable/playoff contenders next season.
Ellis Harrison sold to Manchester City for £50 million will cover any cash shortfalls and allow for a greater range of pies and pasties at the club.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 24, 2017 14:26:06 GMT
Not enough options. I see it as there is a confidence and organisation crisis on the pitch. That will get resolved ,its just D.C. finding the formula or getting people into the club in January. Mid-table this season (9th-16th) Plans for a new Mem will be put forward by the end of the season. PP will be sought ,funding acquired. The team and Colony will get more funding. Upper midtable/playoff contenders next season. Ellis Harrison sold to Manchester City for £50 million will cover any cash shortfalls and allow for a greater range of pies and pasties at the club.Can i have some of what you are taking please  But stranger things have happened....... |
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Post by whoblue on Nov 24, 2017 14:42:47 GMT
There are many small clubs out there with crowds of a lot less than ours that have built small but decent stadiums and acquired and built reasonable training facilities. Why have we failed? I guess it partly bad luck over the years but there must also be an element of owners who have lack vision and ambition. There was always huge potential but no one seems able or willing to exploit this. Very true as Bluebutterfly points out Walsall FC seem to operated at a profit and have a modest stadium, training ground and an acedemy so as you say this should not be beyond our reach if you manage things properly. And they may well have done so by their owners lavishing millions of pounds on those 'small but decent stadiums', we are (as fans) wanting something more than a small decent stadium to build the future of our club. They current owners tell us they have the same vision and are trying to move in that direction. I don't buy the bad luck story, yes we've had some 'bad' luck regarding a new home, mostly born out of poor vision/management from way back in the Eastville days, but they did what they had to do at the time to save the club. Over recent years you could point to low levels of ticket prices increases as part of the problem we see ourselves in now (greater cash flow to the first team budget), along with the lack of development of the resources (Mem) we have had at our disposal. We perhaps should have purchased land to build a training ground at the early possible time and then not wasted money renting suitable facilities. The investment into youth at all levels should help in generating income into the club (if we can find a few gems and get them on decent contracts). And the Training ground is part of that plan. DC has said he thought the club was 30 years behind other clubs, and he's probably right. It's all about how quickly and effectively we can make up that ground. |
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