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Post by Big Jock on Dec 21, 2017 19:46:59 GMT
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Dec 21, 2017 19:53:31 GMT
'Pompous posters deserve zero respect'? Duck me, comments like this are what is making this forum go downhill. Heaven forbid someone should have a different fecking opinion It’s not about opinions Weezord. It’s the way people speak to each other and in this case someone continually asking admin to move pointless threads / posts to general chat or the posters to move there instead. Very condescending and superior and pompous showing zero respect to the contributors in the thread. You do get that I hope? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 19:56:04 GMT
'Pompous posters deserve zero respect'? Duck me, comments like this are what is making this forum go downhill. Heaven forbid someone should have a different fecking opinion It’s not about opinions Weezord. It’s the way people speak to each other and in this case someone continually asking admin to move pointless threads / posts to general chat or the posters to move there instead. Very condescending and superior and pompous showing zero respect to the contributors in the thread. You do get that I hope?Irony level 10/10 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 20:54:33 GMT
It was this time last year that City played eight and lost eight in the league. The same fans who now hail Johnson as the Messiah, wanted him sacked (at best) and the fact that he had to move house suggests firing him wasn't good enough for some. So how bad were City during those eight games? They lost them all by a single goal, so probably not as bad as the stats suggest. Likewise, they're not as good as their recent from suggests. They've won seven of their last nine, but all by a single goal. Their victory at Sheff Utd (a league Two team a year ago) came after the Blades hit the woodwork four times, and had a player sent off. Last night against Utd, they tried hard but were lucky. No team is lucky for ever. And just like last season, when the luck evened itself out and they stayed up, it will again this season, and they're unlikely to be promoted. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 21, 2017 21:22:45 GMT
It was this time last year that City played eight and lost eight in the league. The same fans who now hail Johnson as the Messiah, wanted him sacked (at best) and the fact that he had to move house suggests firing him wasn't good enough for some. So how bad were City during those eight games? They lost them all by a single goal, so probably not as bad as the stats suggest. Likewise, they're not as good as their recent from suggests. They've won seven of their last nine, but all by a single goal. Their victory at Sheff Utd (a league Two team a year ago) came after the Blades hit the woodwork four times, and had a player sent off. Last night against Utd, they tried hard but were lucky. No team is lucky for ever. And just like last season, when the luck evened itself out and they stayed up, it will again this season, and they're unlikely to be promoted. I don't think anyone on here is saying sh1theads are decent fans, the concern is the gap between the two clubs is getting even wider and there's no signs the ALQ's have any intention of trying to close it anytime soon. |
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Post by chilly1883 on Dec 21, 2017 21:35:34 GMT
We will NEVER be bigger than city, but I was born into this gas family, so I have to get on with it. It's the way it's always been. I'm not supporting Rovers because I want to be better than them, it's because if you cut me I'm blue. UTG
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 21:41:08 GMT
Watched it on my iPad - it’s like when someone says don’t look you kind of get intrigued - never thought I’d sit down and watch 90 mins of sh&t. Joe Bryan played a blinder (let’s hooe he gets sold quick) and they kind of deserved it whilst riding their luck. Great save from Steele, posts hit twice - urgh it was horrible. Even Ashton Gate looked impressive to me.
Not gonna lie guys I was jealous and with the recent doom and gloom our side it made it all the worse. 😔 sigh....
We go again Saturday! UTG! 💙
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Post by peterparker on Dec 22, 2017 5:58:22 GMT
Watched it on my iPad - it’s like when someone says don’t look you kind of get intrigued - never thought I’d sit down and watch 90 mins of sh&t. Joe Bryan played a blinder (let’s hooe he gets sold quick) and they kind of deserved it whilst riding their luck. Great save from Steele, posts hit twice - urgh it was horrible. Even Ashton Gate looked impressive to me. Not gonna lie guys I was jealous and with the recent doom and gloom our side it made it all the worse. 😔 sigh.... We go again Saturday! UTG! 💙 Most of that doom and gloom though has been made by a number of fans though |
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 22, 2017 6:55:37 GMT
But the 82er's haven't changed over night they've had a decent Academy set up for years, decent training facilities etc, and as soon as AV bit the dust Pantsdown moved on to redeveloping AG. Meanwhile the ALQ's haven't even got around to even applying for full pp at Almondsbury let alone starting work, nearly a year since they got provisional pp. Posters continually saying they'll get it right eventually are living in some kind of make believe world, as there's no evidence they'll spend the money now needed to bring Rovers up to top Div 1 standard and beyond. Ashton Vale was panned 7 years ago. It took them 7 years to go from the Ashton Vale plan to the rebuild of Ashton Gate. It took time. The Al-Qadi's have been here 18 months compared to Lansdowns decade. The people who are expecting the Al-Qadi's to pull off in 18 months what its took Lansdown 10 years to do, are also living in some sort of make believe world. The AG redevelopment was announced in late 13 as soon as the AV project died. It was given planning sign off in March 14 enabling build to start at the end of that season. So it took around 6 months to go from no plans to planning sign off and get the diggers in. In fact they waited another 2 months to start to finish off the season. It 2 years to complete. The ALQs came in to a club with PP signed off on a brand new development which was given in 2014. According to Wael, the finances not being a problem. The whole club and project were on display for all the tentative new owners. After 18 months, we pull out. Another 6 months have past of complete silence, no plans and no future vision let alone any form of planning permission. All of the above gives you an idea of timescales. So if we are looking at a Mem redevelopment nothing is going to be built until at least 2020. That’s if we start in June. That is the realistic time frame and why we need to crack on now. In some ways how long the ALQs is kind of irrelevant. If you are looking at what the club actually needs right now, then a stadium is top of the list and number 1 priority. I’m sick of Wael banging on about how things take time. If you don’t have the finances then of course it will, you need to find investors or find a way to raise the cash. If so tell us. Conversely if the money is there, tell us what is taking the time as I’m sure there are some people who can help and advise in getting things done and sorted. The training ground is now 4 pitches and a clubhouse and offices and should take around 6 months to do. So all of this taking time is a complete nonsense as well. I don’t think anyone is unrealistic about build timescales but no one is stupid enough to believe it takes 6 months to get some plans drawn and ideas in place. You could do that inside a couple of weeks. |
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Post by chilly1883 on Dec 22, 2017 7:09:03 GMT
In life, I'm actually a very optimistic person, but supporting this club, can make you extremely pessimistic. I will not believe, we will ever get a better ground, until I'm sat in it.
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Post by philbemmygas on Dec 22, 2017 7:36:23 GMT
Alas the doom and gloom (in the main perpetuated by a handfull of posters) has allowed this glowing reference sh*tfest to grow to 10 plus pages. We have had countless Al-Qadi bashing/supporting threads on the forum and I for one don't think we need another one; this should be consigned to Room 101 (general chat) with the rest of the TED crap. Just my opinion of course; no teds were harmed in the typing of this post  Merry Christmas; now lets get on with supporting the Gas. |
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Post by nickchippenhamgas on Dec 22, 2017 8:27:20 GMT
But the 82er's haven't changed over night they've had a decent Academy set up for years, decent training facilities etc, and as soon as AV bit the dust Pantsdown moved on to redeveloping AG. Meanwhile the ALQ's haven't even got around to even applying for full pp at Almondsbury let alone starting work, nearly a year since they got provisional pp. Posters continually saying they'll get it right eventually are living in some kind of make believe world, as there's no evidence they'll spend the money now needed to bring Rovers up to top Div 1 standard and beyond. Ashton Vale was panned 7 years ago. It took them 7 years to go from the Ashton Vale plan to the rebuild of Ashton Gate. It took time. The Al-Qadi's have been here 18 months compared to Lansdowns decade. The people who are expecting the Al-Qadi's to pull off in 18 months what its took Lansdown 10 years to do, are also living in some sort of make believe world. your right about lansdown, but the main difference between lansdown and the family is, he’s from here he knows bristol football well he personally is mega rich and he pretty well started spending serious money on the team long before bristol sport franchise. It’s about intent, all we’ve had from wael and co is retiring, sound bites it’s like new labour all over again! What money has he actually spent on the team? Much? A ground that was not fit for purpose is suddenly plan B, like my city mate said SL was running the planning permission in tandem with the Ashton vale project, it was visible to the fans, they knew it was going to be one or other, no dreams, architects drawings to finished stadium. There has been no promises, or plans forthcoming from the family, and there never will (IMO) |
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Post by daniel300380 on Dec 22, 2017 8:33:53 GMT
Ashton Vale was panned 7 years ago. It took them 7 years to go from the Ashton Vale plan to the rebuild of Ashton Gate. It took time. The Al-Qadi's have been here 18 months compared to Lansdowns decade. The people who are expecting the Al-Qadi's to pull off in 18 months what its took Lansdown 10 years to do, are also living in some sort of make believe world. The AG redevelopment was announced in late 13 as soon as the AV project died. It was given planning sign off in March 14 enabling build to start at the end of that season. So it took around 6 months to go from no plans to planning sign off and get the diggers in. In fact they waited another 2 months to start to finish off the season. It 2 years to complete. The ALQs came in to a club with PP signed off on a brand new development which was given in 2014. According to Wael, the finances not being a problem. The whole club and project were on display for all the tentative new owners. After 18 months, we pull out. Another 6 months have past of complete silence, no plans and no future vision let alone any form of planning permission. All of the above gives you an idea of timescales. So if we are looking at a Mem redevelopment nothing is going to be built until at least 2020. That’s if we start in June. That is the realistic time frame and why we need to crack on now. In some ways how long the ALQs is kind of irrelevant. If you are looking at what the club actually needs right now, then a stadium is top of the list and number 1 priority. I’m sick of Wael banging on about how things take time. If you don’t have the finances then of course it will, you need to find investors or find a way to raise the cash. If so tell us. Conversely if the money is there, tell us what is taking the time as I’m sure there are some people who can help and advise in getting things done and sorted. The training ground is now 4 pitches and a clubhouse and offices and should take around 6 months to do. So all of this taking time is a complete nonsense as well. I don’t think anyone is unrealistic about build timescales but no one is stupid enough to believe it takes 6 months to get some plans drawn and ideas in place. You could do that inside a couple of weeks. Have not really looked into there's. But isn't it really only one new main stand? We need to look into doing every stand, possible moving the pitch, building other facilities to bring in revenue etc. Don't think the mem is as easy. To get the best out of it, I would have thought it will take a lot longer to plan. Someone said they were having problems as well, as everything has to be under a certain height. Maybe they are struggling and looking at other sights as well. We don't want to just rush into something that will cost loads and bring in no revenue. C**y don't care if they can't fit in a hotel etc as they have money to burn. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 8:45:33 GMT
The AG redevelopment was announced in late 13 as soon as the AV project died. It was given planning sign off in March 14 enabling build to start at the end of that season. So it took around 6 months to go from no plans to planning sign off and get the diggers in. In fact they waited another 2 months to start to finish off the season. It 2 years to complete. The ALQs came in to a club with PP signed off on a brand new development which was given in 2014. According to Wael, the finances not being a problem. The whole club and project were on display for all the tentative new owners. After 18 months, we pull out. Another 6 months have past of complete silence, no plans and no future vision let alone any form of planning permission. All of the above gives you an idea of timescales. So if we are looking at a Mem redevelopment nothing is going to be built until at least 2020. That’s if we start in June. That is the realistic time frame and why we need to crack on now. In some ways how long the ALQs is kind of irrelevant. If you are looking at what the club actually needs right now, then a stadium is top of the list and number 1 priority. I’m sick of Wael banging on about how things take time. If you don’t have the finances then of course it will, you need to find investors or find a way to raise the cash. If so tell us. Conversely if the money is there, tell us what is taking the time as I’m sure there are some people who can help and advise in getting things done and sorted. The training ground is now 4 pitches and a clubhouse and offices and should take around 6 months to do. So all of this taking time is a complete nonsense as well. I don’t think anyone is unrealistic about build timescales but no one is stupid enough to believe it takes 6 months to get some plans drawn and ideas in place. You could do that inside a couple of weeks. Have not really looked into there's. But isn't it really only one new main stand? We need to look into doing every stand, possible moving the pitch, building other facilities to bring in revenue etc. Don't think the mem is as easy. To get the best out of it, I would have thought it will take a lot longer to plan. Someone said they were having problems as well, as everything has to be under a certain height. Maybe they are struggling and looking at other sights as well. We don't want to just rush into something that will cost loads and bring in no revenue. C**y don't care if they can't fit in a hotel etc as they have money to burn. We don't want to rush into it 🤔a million years later and we've gone backwards at least Higgs was a gashead this lot aren't interested in the gas just there own interests I'm afraid |
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 22, 2017 8:54:44 GMT
The AG redevelopment was announced in late 13 as soon as the AV project died. It was given planning sign off in March 14 enabling build to start at the end of that season. So it took around 6 months to go from no plans to planning sign off and get the diggers in. In fact they waited another 2 months to start to finish off the season. It 2 years to complete. The ALQs came in to a club with PP signed off on a brand new development which was given in 2014. According to Wael, the finances not being a problem. The whole club and project were on display for all the tentative new owners. After 18 months, we pull out. Another 6 months have past of complete silence, no plans and no future vision let alone any form of planning permission. All of the above gives you an idea of timescales. So if we are looking at a Mem redevelopment nothing is going to be built until at least 2020. That’s if we start in June. That is the realistic time frame and why we need to crack on now. In some ways how long the ALQs is kind of irrelevant. If you are looking at what the club actually needs right now, then a stadium is top of the list and number 1 priority. I’m sick of Wael banging on about how things take time. If you don’t have the finances then of course it will, you need to find investors or find a way to raise the cash. If so tell us. Conversely if the money is there, tell us what is taking the time as I’m sure there are some people who can help and advise in getting things done and sorted. The training ground is now 4 pitches and a clubhouse and offices and should take around 6 months to do. So all of this taking time is a complete nonsense as well. I don’t think anyone is unrealistic about build timescales but no one is stupid enough to believe it takes 6 months to get some plans drawn and ideas in place. You could do that inside a couple of weeks. Have not really looked into there's. But isn't it really only one new main stand? We need to look into doing every stand, possible moving the pitch, building other facilities to bring in revenue etc. Don't think the mem is as easy. To get the best out of it, I would have thought it will take a lot longer to plan. Someone said they were having problems as well, as everything has to be under a certain height. Maybe they are struggling and looking at other sights as well. We don't want to just rush into something that will cost loads and bring in no revenue. C**y don't care if they can't fit in a hotel etc as they have money to burn. 3 Stands and the pitch was moved about 5m as well. Do we need a hotel on site? I don't think we do. There is a lot of other ways to develop commercial ventures and opportunities. We assume Lansdown doesnt care about the money he spends at City. But as a multi millionaire businessman, I very much doubt that. He will see it as a loss leader but how he has built his Bristol Sport Franchise now I am sure will always generate income going forward. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Dec 22, 2017 9:04:24 GMT
Have not really looked into there's. But isn't it really only one new main stand? We need to look into doing every stand, possible moving the pitch, building other facilities to bring in revenue etc. Don't think the mem is as easy. To get the best out of it, I would have thought it will take a lot longer to plan. Someone said they were having problems as well, as everything has to be under a certain height. Maybe they are struggling and looking at other sights as well. We don't want to just rush into something that will cost loads and bring in no revenue. C**y don't care if they can't fit in a hotel etc as they have money to burn. We don't want to rush into it 🤔a million years later and we've gone backwards at least Higgs was a gashead this lot aren't interested in the gas just there own interests I'm afraid Its the same with every other overseas owners in our league system, they are no different in "trying" to make a profit out of it ! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 22, 2017 9:05:58 GMT
Have not really looked into there's. But isn't it really only one new main stand? We need to look into doing every stand, possible moving the pitch, building other facilities to bring in revenue etc. Don't think the mem is as easy. To get the best out of it, I would have thought it will take a lot longer to plan. Someone said they were having problems as well, as everything has to be under a certain height. Maybe they are struggling and looking at other sights as well. We don't want to just rush into something that will cost loads and bring in no revenue. C**y don't care if they can't fit in a hotel etc as they have money to burn. 3 Stands and the pitch was moved about 5m as well. Do we need a hotel on site? I don't think we do. There is a lot of other ways to develop commercial ventures and opportunities. We assume Lansdown doesnt care about the money he spends at City. But as a multi millionaire businessman, I very much doubt that. He will see it as a loss leader but how he has built his Bristol Sport Franchise now I am sure will always generate income going forward.Generating income and making profits are two different things! What I can't understand is why we never get any updates from SH or Wael, i.e. what happened to the team of stadium designers are they still working on the project? , 20men said last night he hopes Wael will be in interviewed early in the new year, if he does, then that's at least another month before any further updates. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 9:14:07 GMT
Watched it on my iPad - it’s like when someone says don’t look you kind of get intrigued - never thought I’d sit down and watch 90 mins of sh&t. Joe Bryan played a blinder (let’s hooe he gets sold quick) and they kind of deserved it whilst riding their luck. Great save from Steele, posts hit twice - urgh it was horrible. Even Ashton Gate looked impressive to me. Not gonna lie guys I was jealous and with the recent doom and gloom our side it made it all the worse. 😔 sigh.... We go again Saturday! UTG! 💙 Most of that doom and gloom though has been made by a number of fans though disagree I think it comes from the top! |
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Post by paulpirate on Dec 22, 2017 9:23:26 GMT
Talking to a taff yesterday and he said swans been in talks with lickle lee and meeting up with him today,I said don’t bother he’s on a lucky streak and will soon fade
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