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Post by Feeling The Blues on Dec 21, 2017 9:04:29 GMT
We don’t lose potential supporters to Oxford or Plymouth and we never will. We do and will lose potential support to Bristol City though unless we up our game. That is the relevance of this thread to our football club. That's the 5th or 6th time that you've elongated this pointless thread, in order to tell us that it is irrelevant. From the replies I would guess that enough people felt that it was a relevant place to comment at the time, and no doubt they mods will tidy the place up in the morning, when the tantrums have finished. "Pointless Thread" .. "Pointless Thread" ... "Pointless Thread" .... you're beginning to sound like Sean O'Driscoll. I haven't elongated the thread 5 or 6 times calling it pointless TT, I was replying to the person who did though, who seems to like your post!
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Dec 21, 2017 9:04:31 GMT
In the sense that most Notts Locals support forest. Fact. The Clough Era followed by a few years in the top flight collated a mass army of supporters that County can only dream of. That is what I mean. Your comment about the game is said with Gas bias. City were brilliant tonight. Their opening goal was fantastic. They played on the front foot and didn’t play too deep and counter attacked with pace. Marlon Pack has Pogba in his pocket all night and Rashford got nothing from Bailey Wright. They absolutely deserved to win it. Another pointless post. There's a thread about the game on the general chat forum. Why not contribute to that? perhaps you are too young to remember the competition between us and them or maybe you don't have a passion about Rovers like most of us. Either way, let the grown ups comment on this and refrain from your pointless comments
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Dec 21, 2017 9:08:30 GMT
Have to admit it was a good game, and they've got Man City in the semi-finals, first leg away. Only consolation is that it might take their eye off the ball re. promotion. Knowing our luck they will win the cup, get promoted and taylor picked for England and score the winner in the world cup final
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 9:11:01 GMT
Another pointless post. There's a thread about the game on the general chat forum. Why not contribute to that? perhaps you are too young to remember the competition between us and them or maybe you don't have a passion about Rovers like most of us. Either way, let the grown ups comment on this and refrain from your pointless comments Very good. Keep typing away anonymously behind your screen MM...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 9:14:05 GMT
That's the 5th or 6th time that you've elongated this pointless thread, in order to tell us that it is irrelevant. From the replies I would guess that enough people felt that it was a relevant place to comment at the time, and no doubt they mods will tidy the place up in the morning, when the tantrums have finished. "Pointless Thread" .. "Pointless Thread" ... "Pointless Thread" .... you're beginning to sound like Sean O'Driscoll. I haven't elongated the thread 5 or 6 times calling it pointless TT, I was replying to the person who did though, who seems to like your post! I'm making the point that the controls for our destiny are in BS7, not BS3 as some would have you believe.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Dec 21, 2017 9:15:52 GMT
Another pointless post. There's a thread about the game on the general chat forum. Why not contribute to that? perhaps you are too young to remember the competition between us and them or maybe you don't have a passion a out Rovers like most of us. Either way, let the grown ups comment on this and refrain from your pointless comments Just had a thought, perhaps it's Hamer making his pointless comments? He said only a few weeks ago that he didn't consider us a two club city. Mind you the more I think about it I'm worried that he might have been hinting at the future consequences of the owners inaction plans rather than the reality of today.
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Post by peterparker on Dec 21, 2017 9:22:20 GMT
I actually woke up depressed this morning after watching City deservedly beat a very weak ManUre. [via Sky] And most of the thoughts printed above this post - I echo. Evolution my ass - if we carry on the way we are, it will be more like a crematorium - as we pick over the ashes. I have never had faith in the new owners [and took much flack for it] they got lucky and rode on the back of Clarke's good fortune, but when it came down to actually deliver, my worse thoughts seem to have been confirmed. based on that I would assume you didn't have much faith under the old owners(s) either.
So my point again what do people want?
I guess you want the Al-Qadi's to sell up based on your post? So that means trying to find people prepared to throw lots money at the club with little thought of ever seeing a monetary return. Maybe there is someone out there, but they don't just walk up to football clubs and say here is some money
I would love us to compete at the highest level we can in a decent stadium, but the one thing I really want and always will do is to have my football club to support, wherever it may be.
If we can never keep up with the Jones' so be it. It doesn't mean I don't want better and won't hold my club up to be better at whatever level we are at, but what we cannot do is magic up money from nowhere
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Post by peterparker on Dec 21, 2017 9:24:58 GMT
The key componant driving them forward is a billionaire owner throwing money at them for fun.
They are lottery winners, that's all.
Thats your blue tint talking. There must be 40 or so lottery winners in the first 2 divisions then. There are too many other clubs with the same model for it to be luck. Is it if you looked up the top 2 divisions and, how many are owned by seriously rich men?
Vincent Tan wrote off something like £80m quid in loans/interest recently for example
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Post by knowall on Dec 21, 2017 9:25:53 GMT
When I was a kid City were in the top division for 4 seasons, and we were sh1t. When they were playing Liverpool, Man U, Arsenal, we were literally bottom of the second division for that entire period, narrowly avoiding relegation each year. For me and many others there was no better place to be than Eastville watching our team. Things change quickly in Football. Within 3 years they were bottom of the fourth division and 25,000 city fans simply disappeared. Happy days
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Dec 21, 2017 9:33:36 GMT
The key componant driving them forward is a billionaire owner throwing money at them for fun.
They are lottery winners, that's all.
Thats your blue tint talking. There must be 40 or so lottery winners in the first 2 divisions then. There are too many other clubs with the same model for it to be luck. They've spent c. £80M in ten years (not including the stadium money which is probably a decent investment), and they're about in the same position as they were ten years ago. I think 'model' is a bit of an exaggeration. If he wants to spend all that money on a hobby, then fair enough, I guess, quite a lot of people seem to. But the idea that we're somehow doing it wrong coz we're not watering away humungous sums of money is wrong-headed, in my view, and bad for the future of the game. It will be poisonous to a number of clubs going forward, imv. Lots of second tier teams (and at other levels) seem to think they have a god-given right for some wealthy person to just water up loads of cash for their entertainment, entertainment which would be pretty much identical without the massive money. You've got essentially thirty odd clubs chasing c. ten places. That's not a race anyone should enter lightly, unless they genuinely don't care where their tens of millions of pounds are gonna end up. The idea that anyone should whine about it coz it's not happening to them is anathema to the good health of the sport, imv.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Dec 21, 2017 9:36:13 GMT
When I was a kid City were in the top division for 4 seasons, and we were sh1t. When they were playing Liverpool, Man U, Arsenal, we were literally bottom of the second division for that entire period, narrowly avoiding relegation each year. For me and many others there was no better place to be than Eastville watching our team. Things change quickly in Football. Within 3 years they were bottom of the fourth division and 25,000 city fans simply disappeared. Happy days Thing is we had a better stadium to play in than we do now!
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Post by singupgas on Dec 21, 2017 9:41:32 GMT
If the current lot do not want to be here, if SH comments are anything to go by and we are not looking stay as 2 club club city, then i do not support the board and their aspirations. It is an insult to all Bristol Rovers fans. We were not far off a good future at new ground and we are all being taken for a ride.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Dec 21, 2017 9:42:17 GMT
perhaps you are too young to remember the competition between us and them or maybe you don't have a passion about Rovers like most of us. Either way, let the grown ups comment on this and refrain from your pointless comments Very good. Keep typing away anonymously behind your screen MM... Not sure what that means or is your real name falsenumber9 ? always happy to meet face to face to discuss
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Dec 21, 2017 9:47:42 GMT
And, remember let's all be nice. Merry Christmas everyone, ho, ho, ho!
Remember the true spirit of Christmas Past:
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 9:47:52 GMT
Very good. Keep typing away anonymously behind your screen MM... Not sure what that means or is your real name falsenumber9 ? always happy to meet face to face to discuss It means it's easy to attack a person behind a keyboard MM. And it's not cool.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 9:49:25 GMT
And, remember let's all be nice. Merry Christmas everyone, ho, ho, ho!
Remember the true spirit of Christmas Past:
Brilliant. Happy Christmas one and all.
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Post by faggotygas on Dec 21, 2017 9:53:42 GMT
The key componant driving them forward is a billionaire owner throwing money at them for fun.
They are lottery winners, that's all.
Thats your blue tint talking. There must be 40 or so lottery winners in the first 2 divisions then. There are too many other clubs with the same model for it to be luck. Of course it's luck if a billionaire with cash to burn takes a fancy to your club. How else do you explain it?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 9:55:35 GMT
If the current lot do not want to be here, if SH comments are anything to go by and we are not looking stay as 2 club club city, then i do not support the board and their aspirations. It is an insult to all Bristol Rovers fans. We were not far off a good future at new ground and we are all being taken for a ride. SH isn't great at the PR clearly. I'd question whether our future would have been great at the UWE given the fact the original was almost immediately written up. Why should anyone expect the new owners to gamble huge amounts of money on something which they aren't happy with?
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Post by gashead1981 on Dec 21, 2017 9:58:54 GMT
Not sure what that means or is your real name falsenumber9 ? always happy to meet face to face to discuss It means it's easy to attack a person behind a keyboard MM. And it's not cool. I will ask the pair of you to keep it civil please. And yes attack the post and not the poster. Ta.
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Post by knowall on Dec 21, 2017 10:03:05 GMT
Last night night was a night about Bristol City and they did great. Not about us, not about our board, not about selling Bodin. Fair play and congratulations. Quite right. I wasn't trying to make it about us off the back of them. But the point of the thread was that take a look at the other side of the river, not to look on in envy or jealousy, but to look at it and see a well developed stadium full of Bristolian football supporters playing against a top prem team and a team that are riding high in the league with the absolute chance of getting prem football themselves. Then look at our own facilities and look how far behind we are and what we are potentially losing out on support and the attraction of players by not having a facility not just to match but even to compete with. We all want championship football but we have no chance of sustaining it if we ever did get there. I watch a fair bit of championship football on sky and every team has a very good level of stadia far above ours. Even the Scottish first and bottom of the SPL teams have great stadia when you look at the attendances they get. Lansdown has wasted a fair amount of money City getting it right, that cannot be disputed, but he is getting it right now and when you look at the momentum that is being generated, the new fans it is attracting plus all the add ons commercially = success on and off the field. And if they reach the prem then its fair to say that with the extra revenue they will get plus any parachute payments should they come straight back down it will pay off the last 15+ years anyway. I love BRFC and I've loved the Mem down the years. I still get the same buzz going there as I did when I went to Twerton for the first time, but I must say, I would love to see a much better ground now. Imagine a 20k+ stadium full of blue and white in the championship!! You can't all tell me you would not take that. Our owners need that buzz and passion to drive us forward and recognise how quickly we need a better stadium facility to move forward. To follow your point - the well developed stadium - came about after their preferred option was thwarted and they re-developed their old stadium. (sound familiar?) There is no doubt that a smart stadium is key to producing an income to support the sustainability of the Football Club - but look at the backroom at City and their Academy. Mark Ashton was recruited a few years ago and has found players for their first team whilst their Academy is producing players for their first team too - two Academy products scored their goals last night to win the match for them. The money invested by Lansdown has also brought a team of experts to run the whole show and that is now paying off. Our current owners have been here for a couple of years SL has been there for fifteen. Whilst many are critical of our owners since arriving they have been quietly increasing our backroom which is supporting the efforts of DC and in time will add to our pool of first team players. And hopefully the new Commercial Director will produce more than he costs. We have to give our current board time and SUPPORT and it would be more productive if that was positive rather than critical. How many readers of this forum are planning, building, etc experts? and have you offered to help? - or are you complaining??
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