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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 4:07:24 GMT
1] tom nichols £200-350k struggled to make an impact ] he will prove himself imo 2] liam sercombe £150k had some poor games but looks a great signing with goals in the bag already 3] adam smith free early injury some dodgy games starting to look like a good signing. 4] sam slocombe free steady keeper no worries if smith is injured or out of form 5] rollin menayese free powerful centre-back looks a great prospect 6] tom broadbent free powerful centre-back looks a great prospect great scouting by the club with these 2 must be the envy of many clubs. 7] marc bola loan done well in many games but poor in a spell including the checkatrade trophy matches. 8] dom telford loan got full games in checkatrade and after scoring 2 v wycombe was very poor v west ham and swindon. 9] ryan sweeney loan poor this season but trying hard to get it right.
A mixed bag then but i would argue good signs that most of them will prove to be good signings.
Not helped this season by many established players like lockyer,ollie clarke,lee brown,chris lines and stuart sinclair all having spells of poor form.
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Post by dinsdale on Jan 10, 2018 5:44:29 GMT
Not good enough recruitment for a league 1 team imo. A couple of promising young players , a couple of average keepers and a good signing in midfield.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 10, 2018 5:58:28 GMT
You are failing to look at what we needed.
Some promising youngsters, yes.
One decent midfielder. Agreed.
A keeper. Ok.
Wingers? Nope.
A defensive midfielder? Nope.
A goal scorer? Nope.
Our summer recruitment was poor. Still not sure if it was lack of funds (we seemed to just suddenly stop sending half way through) or if DC just completely messed up the window.
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Post by pirate on Jan 10, 2018 6:00:51 GMT
We didn't 'scout' Broadbent as such, a DVD of him was given to DC.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 7:19:54 GMT
1] tom nichols £200-350k struggled to make an impact ] he will prove himself imo 2] liam sercombe £150k had some poor games but looks a great signing with goals in the bag already 3] adam smith free early injury some dodgy games starting to look like a good signing. 4] sam slocombe free steady keeper no worries if smith is injured or out of form 5] rollin menayese free powerful centre-back looks a great prospect 6] tom broadbent free powerful centre-back looks a great prospect great scouting by the club with these 2 must be the envy of many clubs. 7] marc bola loan done well in many games but poor in a spell including the checkatrade trophy matches. 8] dom telford loan got full games in checkatrade and after scoring 2 v wycombe was very poor v west ham and swindon. 9] ryan sweeney loan poor this season but trying hard to get it right. A mixed bag then but i would argue good signs that most of them will prove to be good signings. Not helped this season by many established players like lockyer,ollie clarke,lee brown,chris lines and stuart sinclair all having spells of poor form. Just not good enough recruitment down to this so called great manager we got,when most posters on here question his signings,tactics,interviews on how he seen the game,team selected,how many changes he makes each game,playing players out of position etc but very good managers think ahead I hope DC can bring in the right players whatever budget because he boasted about bringing in TB and RM for peanuts let's make no mistake this transfer window could be the most important in the clubs fortunes. I think DC is a good manager but maybe punching above his weight in league one for now and in years too come could go onto better things. lets see how he recruits in this window and the jury will be out. I don't think DC a great manager yet just a good one UTG
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 10, 2018 7:24:32 GMT
1] tom nichols £200-350k struggled to make an impact ] he will prove himself imo 2] liam sercombe £150k had some poor games but looks a great signing with goals in the bag already 3] adam smith free early injury some dodgy games starting to look like a good signing. 4] sam slocombe free steady keeper no worries if smith is injured or out of form 5] rollin menayese free powerful centre-back looks a great prospect 6] tom broadbent free powerful centre-back looks a great prospect great scouting by the club with these 2 must be the envy of many clubs. 7] marc bola loan done well in many games but poor in a spell including the checkatrade trophy matches. 8] dom telford loan got full games in checkatrade and after scoring 2 v wycombe was very poor v west ham and swindon. 9] ryan sweeney loan poor this season but trying hard to get it right. A mixed bag then but i would argue good signs that most of them will prove to be good signings. Not helped this season by many established players like lockyer,ollie clarke,lee brown,chris lines and stuart sinclair all having spells of poor form. Just not good enough recruitment down to this so called great manager we got,when most posters on here question his signings,tactics,interviews on how he seen the game,team selected,how many changes he makes each game,playing players out of position etc but very good managers think ahead I hope DC can bring in the right players whatever budget because he boasted about bringing in TB and RM for peanuts let's make no mistake this transfer window could be the most important in the clubs fortunes. I think DC is a good manager but maybe punching above his weight in league one for now and in years too come could go onto better things. lets see how he recruits in this window and the jury will be out. I don't think DC a great manager yet just a good one UTG Think that is a harsh assessment. DC is working with limited funds in comparison to most teams in this league. Our infrastructure is sub standard. These so called great managers on this forum, I would liked to have seen them get us 2 promotions from the conference. The transfer window is important which is why we need a proper scouting set up, plan and strategy. If DC doesn't even know which shop he is buying from then how can you expect too much from the bloke.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 7:37:50 GMT
Just not good enough recruitment down to this so called great manager we got,when most posters on here question his signings,tactics,interviews on how he seen the game,team selected,how many changes he makes each game,playing players out of position etc but very good managers think ahead I hope DC can bring in the right players whatever budget because he boasted about bringing in TB and RM for peanuts let's make no mistake this transfer window could be the most important in the clubs fortunes. I think DC is a good manager but maybe punching above his weight in league one for now and in years too come could go onto better things. lets see how he recruits in this window and the jury will be out. I don't think DC a great manager yet just a good one UTG Think that is a harsh assessment. DC is working with limited funds in comparison to most teams in this league. Our infrastructure is sub standard. These so called great managers on this forum, I would liked to have seen them get us 2 promotions from the conference. The transfer window is important which is why we need a proper scouting set up, plan and strategy. If DC doesn't even know which shop he is buying from then how can you expect too much from the bloke. You don't know his budget or any other teams budgets or there scouting networks we can't look at what others got but just get on with what we got. I ain't expecting too much from the bloke but he won't accept help or admit he needs it in this division,Stewart ain't no help and you only got to see the same mistakes week in and out in the defence.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 10, 2018 7:41:43 GMT
Think that is a harsh assessment. DC is working with limited funds in comparison to most teams in this league. Our infrastructure is sub standard. These so called great managers on this forum, I would liked to have seen them get us 2 promotions from the conference. The transfer window is important which is why we need a proper scouting set up, plan and strategy. If DC doesn't even know which shop he is buying from then how can you expect too much from the bloke. You don't know his budget or any other teams budgets or there scouting networks we can't look at what others got but just get on with what we got. I ain't expecting too much from the bloke but he won't accept help or admit he needs it in this division,Stewart ain't no help and you only got to see the same mistakes week in and out in the defence. No, but you can read between the lines and listen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 7:57:23 GMT
Look we are all gasheads and when these fakes took over we all thought new ground no selling the best players money for new players but none of that's going to happen we are no better off than we were under Higgs and co but at least they are gasheads and supported the club,these fakes don't care about football or the fans they only look for making money imo they thought they could buy uwe over the stadium and make hay but the uwe ain't stupid so stood firm.
DC knows more than he's allowed too let on but he's the manager and in any job he's got to take the flack,he's a good manager but needs to ask for help instead of trying to do it all himself don't you think?
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Post by William Wilson on Jan 10, 2018 8:06:44 GMT
We didn't 'scout' Broadbent as such, a DVD of him was given to DC. On that basis, I suppose we should be grateful that he didn`t sign Ron Jeremy.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Jan 10, 2018 8:19:56 GMT
Look we are all gasheads and when these fakes took over we all thought new ground no selling the best players money for new players but none of that's going to happen we are no better off than we were under Higgs and co but at least they are gasheads and supported the club,these fakes don't care about football or the fans they only look for making money imo they thought they could buy uwe over the stadium and make hay but the uwe ain't stupid so stood firm. DC knows more than he's allowed too let on but he's the manager and in any job he's got to take the flake,he's a good manager but needs to ask for help instead of trying to do it all himself don't you think? I think you are spot on about Waq & Hani, in my opinion they certainly under-estimated the UWE, now the opportunity has gone to build a new stadium, they will try and control the overheads of the club while looking to sell. I think DC is a good manager, unfortunately he does not appear to have anybody around him who really understands the transfer market, while other clubs have identified and brought in players, BRFC are 10 days into the transfer market, sold their best player on day one and are yet to make any significant purchases. DC quiet simply does not appear to have a good enough network of contacts and the fakes do not like spending any money which could quite easily equal relegation.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 10, 2018 8:47:16 GMT
Back to the OP there's at interesting thread on the the Gasheads forum has suggested virtually all TN's goals for Posh last season came from inside the penalty area and were "fox in a box" type goals, given TN hardly seems to get in the penalty area for us does make you wonder whether we're playing to his strengths, or whether he was totally the wrong type of striker for the way we play.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 10, 2018 8:56:18 GMT
We didn't 'scout' Broadbent as such, a DVD of him was given to DC. On that basis, I suppose we should be grateful that he didn`t sign Ron Jeremy. Surprised we didn't put a bid in for Kylo Ren.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 10, 2018 9:01:18 GMT
Classic bit of yellow rhetoric. Big someone up even while they are denying what you say about them. Then when it turns out they don't live up to the expectations you placed on them (the expectations they were careful to play down), insult them about it. For added points make up a pithy insult that rhymes (even if it has nothing to do with the actuality). You should work for the Sun. ETA: That's not just for you, that's everyone who thinks calling our board fake is big and clever and makes them look older than 12.
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Post by Baxtinho on Jan 10, 2018 9:21:10 GMT
On that basis, I suppose we should be grateful that he didn`t sign Ron Jeremy. Surprised we didn't put a bid in for Kylo Ren. Was it him that sent Taylor to the dark side? (Sorry)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 10:16:46 GMT
You are failing to look at what we needed. Some promising youngsters, yes. One decent midfielder. Agreed. A keeper. Ok. Wingers? Nope. A defensive midfielder? Nope. A goal scorer? Nope. Our summer recruitment was poor. Still not sure if it was lack of funds (we seemed to just suddenly stop sending half way through) or if DC just completely messed up the window. We were looking for players right up until the close of the window which suggests at least some money was available. I felt we played far to many pre-season friendlies and this ate into DC's recruitment time but DC says he passed the list of plasyers to Hamer. I'm getting confused as to who does the ringing round checking availability etc., is it Hamer's job or DC's job. DC says he's busy on the phone so presumably he must at least make initial contact with clubs/ agents and Hamer negotiates terms? Anyway both seem slow out the blocks again and not learning from past mistakes.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 10:23:58 GMT
Look we are all gasheads and when these fakes took over we all thought new ground no selling the best players money for new players but none of that's going to happen we are no better off than we were under Higgs and co but at least they are gasheads and supported the club,these fakes don't care about football or the fans they only look for making money imo they thought they could buy uwe over the stadium and make hay but the uwe ain't stupid so stood firm. DC knows more than he's allowed too let on but he's the manager and in any job he's got to take the flake,he's a good manager but needs to ask for help instead of trying to do it all himself don't you think? I think you are spot on about Waq & Hani, in my opinion they certainly under-estimated the UWE, now the opportunity has gone to build a new stadium, they will try and control the overheads of the club while looking to sell. I think DC is a good manager, unfortunately he does not appear to have anybody around him who really understands the transfer market, while other clubs have identified and brought in players, BRFC are 10 days into the transfer market, sold their best player on day one and are yet to make any significant purchases. DC quiet simply does not appear to have a good enough network of contacts and the fakes do not like spending any money which could quite easily equal relegation. Absolutely right, we need a chief scout/ head of recruitment who has contacts and knows the market and could set up at least a basic scouting network and help Hamer and DC with agent/ player negotiations. Would be the best £50k the club could spend.
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Post by BrightonGas on Jan 10, 2018 10:27:09 GMT
Classic bit of yellow rhetoric. Big someone up even while they are denying what you say about them. Then when it turns out they don't live up to the expectations you placed on them (the expectations they were careful to play down), insult them about it. For added points make up a pithy insult that rhymes (even if it has nothing to do with the actuality). You should work for the Sun. ETA: That's not just for you, that's everyone who thinks calling our board fake is big and clever and makes them look older than 12. Firm, but fair!
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 10, 2018 10:30:23 GMT
You are failing to look at what we needed. Some promising youngsters, yes. One decent midfielder. Agreed. A keeper. Ok. Wingers? Nope. A defensive midfielder? Nope. A goal scorer? Nope. Our summer recruitment was poor. Still not sure if it was lack of funds (we seemed to just suddenly stop sending half way through) or if DC just completely messed up the window. We were looking for players right up until the close of the window which suggests at least some money was available. I felt we played far to many pre-season friendlies and this ate into DC's recruitment time but DC says he passed the list of plasyers to Hamer. I'm getting confused as to who does the ringing round checking availability etc., is it Hamer's job or DC's job. DC says he's busy on the phone so presumably he must at least make initial contact with clubs/ agents and Hamer negotiates terms? Anyway both seem slow out the blocks again and not learning from past mistakes. Both isn't it? I was always under the impression that a Chairman/owner defines the budget, the manager then decides on a player and persuades him to come (and at what cost in fees and salary to his budget) and then the chairman and agent sort out the legalese of the formal contract.
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Post by Raj Gas on Jan 10, 2018 11:14:01 GMT
Back to the OP there's at interesting thread on the the Gasheads forum has suggested virtually all TN's goals for Posh last season came from inside the penalty area and were "fox in a box" type goals, given TN hardly seems to get in the penalty area for us does make you wonder whether we're playing to his strengths, or whether he was totally the wrong type of striker for the way we play. When we are paying that sort of money for a player I had expected the team to be set up to get the best out of him or at least somewhere close, that hasn't happened. The other point I would make is that some players like BB have been shooting rather than passing particularly because they are more of an individual than a team. I guess this is partly down to a lack options or an understanding with fellow strikers, some of that can be put down to a lot of team changes. I didn't see so much of Marcus Stewart's time with Rovers but as a striker and coach who would he be like in today's team?
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