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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 23, 2018 12:28:01 GMT
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Post by abbeygas on Jan 23, 2018 12:31:26 GMT
Good appointment for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 13:17:02 GMT
A BBC article dominated by ethnicity discussion. When that’s not the point of the article. Shock horror.
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Post by tommym9 on Jan 23, 2018 13:20:29 GMT
To be fair there are only 6 BAME managers in the top four devisions of English football so something worth talking about
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 23, 2018 13:23:45 GMT
To be fair there are only 6 BAME managers in the top four devisions of English football so something worth talking about What did Phil Brown count as? |
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Post by tommym9 on Jan 23, 2018 13:25:08 GMT
To be fair there are only 6 BAME managers in the top four devisions of English football so something worth talking about What did Phil Brown count as? I don't know if Geordie counts as a minority |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 23, 2018 13:33:39 GMT
What did Phil Brown count as? I don't know if Geordie counts as a minority I was thinking more about him being orange. |
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Post by baggins on Jan 23, 2018 13:42:06 GMT
Rovers related?
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Post by Marshy on Jan 23, 2018 13:42:18 GMT
To be fair there are only 6 BAME managers in the top four devisions of English football so something worth talking about What did Phil Brown count as? A tall umpa lumpa who sells used cars. |
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Post by RetroGamer on Jan 23, 2018 13:46:24 GMT
Looks a decent appointment for them. I don't see why people care if he's black or not though. As for 6 BAME managers that shouldn't matter a toss either. I'm sure if there were more decent black managers to pick from then there would be more of them in jobs! No doubt that will happen in time with the current influx of foreign players into the English leagues but that will come in time and shouldn't be rushed for statistics sake.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 23, 2018 13:53:20 GMT
As a manager aren’t you judged on results and style as opposed to skin colour and nationality?
Point is, if you are a manager of any race/religion/ethnic background making a decent fist at a football club you will move up the ladder. Paul Ince was a great player, but a crap manager and that was nothing to do with his skin colour.
Perhaps there aren’t enough minorities showing a desire for management perhaps preferring coaching, punditry or agent work? Or maybe choosing a completely different profession in another part of the world?
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Jan 23, 2018 13:55:33 GMT
I don't know if Geordie counts as a minority I was thinking more about him being orange. Trust you to go off on a TAN - GENT  |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 23, 2018 14:08:33 GMT
As a manager aren’t you judged on results and style as opposed to skin colour and nationality? Point is, if you are a manager of any race/religion/ethnic background making a decent fist at a football club you will move up the ladder. Paul Ince was a great player, but a crap manager and that was nothing to do with his skin colour. Perhaps there aren’t enough minorities showing a desire for management perhaps preferring coaching, punditry or agent work? Or maybe choosing a completely different profession in another part of the world? That assumes that appointments reflects ability exactly. No one who has ever worked really thinks that, surely? |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 23, 2018 14:44:53 GMT
As a manager aren’t you judged on results and style as opposed to skin colour and nationality? Point is, if you are a manager of any race/religion/ethnic background making a decent fist at a football club you will move up the ladder. Paul Ince was a great player, but a crap manager and that was nothing to do with his skin colour. Perhaps there aren’t enough minorities showing a desire for management perhaps preferring coaching, punditry or agent work? Or maybe choosing a completely different profession in another part of the world? That assumes that appointments reflects ability exactly. No one who has ever worked really thinks that, surely? Also that people are not taking up management roles through choice. I don't like positive discrimination in any way but given the proportion of BAME players it's not unreasonable to imagine that the same demographic would(should?) be represented at coach/manager level and worth at least asking why not. That said, supposedly 1:10 people are gay yet not a single footballer is. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 23, 2018 14:45:41 GMT
No. Should probably be moved. Will do it later when I can. (Have moved to GC -AF) |
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Post by newmarketgas on Jan 23, 2018 14:55:52 GMT
Crafty, but clever wording Antonio,  |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 23, 2018 14:57:05 GMT
Crafty, but clever wording Antonio, Why's that? Coz you're dying to disagree with it, but you can't think how to do it? |
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Post by newmarketgas on Jan 23, 2018 15:00:01 GMT
Crafty, but clever wording Antonio, Why's that? Coz you're dying to disagree with it, but you can't think how to do it? Wow, you were waiting ! |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 23, 2018 15:12:13 GMT
Why's that? Coz you're dying to disagree with it, but you can't think how to do it? Wow, you were waiting ! Waiting for what? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 15:12:58 GMT
Crafty, but clever wording Antonio, Neither crafty or clever wording Newmarket. For the second time this past fortnight, I’ve had to get my violin out for the non existent cause. |
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