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Post by curlywurly on Feb 21, 2018 12:11:47 GMT
It's been mentioned a number of times before, but surely Dom Telford deserves more of a chance of a first team run out? www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/2018/february/20.02.18-dev-squad-report/Copied from the Development squad thread Feb 20, 2018 15:03:54 GMT yesimcornish said: Why isn’t Telford playing for our main games or atleast coming on as a sub instead of Nichols. Yes Nichols is actually our player and not a loan but hasn’t Telford scored In most games he has played even for games like today, if we want to win try him instead? I know it doesn’t really count but Nichols can barely even get shots on target before the game in warm up and not showing effort to me. I do like Nichols just I would like Telford to get a run in a bit.
I couldn't agree more. Telford has the goal scoring knack, which seems to have deserted Nichols. It can't be just a case of Nichols being asked to play out of position. |
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Post by Colyton Gas on Feb 21, 2018 12:19:17 GMT
Stokies told me in August,'You'll like Dom Telford,he'll score a few for you'.Last time I saw him in action was when he went close at Wolves.Looked lively.
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Post by pirate49 on Feb 21, 2018 12:25:44 GMT
I saw the previous Development game and Trelford put in a huge shift, and scored.
He doesn't 'look as good' as Nichols, but goes for goal and looks a more natural goal scorer.
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Post by scoobydoogas on Feb 21, 2018 13:08:02 GMT
We hear that DC isn't playing Nichols in his favoured position and that is used to try and appease the fans for his lack of goals. However, he does also play in some of the development games but he doesn't score there either (unlike Telford, who does). Does this mean that Nichols is played out of position in those games as well? If so, then isn't a development game an ideal place to play Nichols in his favoured position and see how he gets on? Or is it that the development team plays the exact same way as the first team, in which case we will probably never see Nichols score again?
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Post by faggotygas on Feb 21, 2018 13:24:42 GMT
Sounds like Telford is doing the right things to get himself into contention.
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Post by baggins on Feb 21, 2018 13:27:09 GMT
Sounds like Telford is doing the right things to get himself into contention. I'd pick him over Nichols. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 21, 2018 13:41:18 GMT
DC's already said he's keeping DT out of the spot light so we can, hopefully, sign him on the cheap in the summer. If that is the case I doubt we'll see him start until next season, assuming he signs. Although DC could be just feeding us nonsense as he knows DT will make Nichols look an even poorer signing if he starts.
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Post by curlywurly on Feb 21, 2018 14:19:07 GMT
DC's already said he's keeping DT out of the spot light so we can, hopefully, sign him on the cheap in the summer. If that is the case I doubt we'll see him start until next season, assuming he signs. Although DC could be just feeding us nonsense as he knows DT will make Nichols look an even poorer signing if he starts. I don't think he actually said quite that. From the Oxford preview:
"Darrell Clarke has dropped a hint on potential transfer plans involving two players at the end of the current season. Clarke, who will see his side back in action against Oxford United at the Kassam Stadium this weekend, was active in the recent window with the signing of three players – two of which came in as free agents on February 1. But providing an update on loanee pair Dom Telford and Marc Bola – the latter at Rovers from Arsenal and the other from Stoke City – Clarke has explained how he could look to bring them in on a permanent basis if the circumstances were right at the end of the season. Bola has started the last five games for Rovers, bringing his appearance tally to 17 so far this season, while Telford has also feature 17 times, but has not started a game in Sky Bet League One.
“Bola has done quite well; he’s done okay,” said Clarke. “He’s a young lad.
“There was a recent [sic] I brought him and Dom Telford in on loan this season – they’re out of contract in the summer. I'm not sure what’s happening at those clubs.
“I looked at the bigger picture with those two if they potentially get released. It was about working on them as a project.”
Telford has netted three times since joining Rovers alongside Stoke teammate Ryan Sweeney, although two of those came in the Checkatrade Trophy against Wycombe.
He has not played for the first-team since the goalless draw with Blackpool last month, but has impressed throughout the season while featuring for the Rovers reserve side.
Reflecting on the striker’s lack of playing time, Clarke said: “Dom will be disappointed as he has not played as many minutes as would have liked. But he is grafting away in training.”Clarke went on to say: “We will look at players but not just in the short term. A lot of people know I’m not a short term manager and we work on things, build things, reassess things and reshape the squad – these things take a little bit of time....."
IMO it doesn't make sense to keep Telford off the pitch in the hope he becomes a free agent at the end of the season. It strikes me that he is more likely to want to go elsewhere if Rovers don't play him. Simple fact is we could do with a goal scorer now. Telford has scored more first team goals than Nichols with only a small fraction of the game time. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 14:28:42 GMT
If it's true that DC is not playing Telford in the hope we can sign him for free/ or little in the summer that rather unfair on a young player trying to build a career. But I don't think there is any evidence that's the case.
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Post by socrates on Feb 21, 2018 15:22:41 GMT
We hear that DC isn't playing Nichols in his favoured position and that is used to try and appease the fans for his lack of goals. However, he does also play in some of the development games but he doesn't score there either (unlike Telford, who does). Does this mean that Nichols is played out of position in those games as well? If so, then isn't a development game an ideal place to play Nichols in his favoured position and see how he gets on? Or is it that the development team plays the exact same way as the first team, in which case we will probably never see Nichols score again? I like D.C. but I think that’s a sh**e excuse for a player who’s so far been sh**e for us. He’s a forward he should be able to score goals or create goals f he’s played in attack. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 21, 2018 15:43:27 GMT
DC keeps making excuses for Nichols and defending him and will say he believes in him still but we all know really he must be having doubts about the lad and is only playing him in the hope that he will eventually justify his transfer fee. The trouble is if we keep playing he could potentially be costing us points, as he hasn't been bringing enough to the table and sometimes it is almost like playing with 10 men.
The excuse about not playing in his favoured position is rubbish. He's had loads of chances both out wide and alongside the likes of Gaffney but not produced. Anyway, most players need to adapt more now a days especially going forward. Long gone are the days of 1 big 1 small up top.
Nichols will still have one more season to produce I feel but if he still doesn't then it could be curtains.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 16:57:38 GMT
We hear that DC isn't playing Nichols in his favoured position and that is used to try and appease the fans for his lack of goals. However, he does also play in some of the development games but he doesn't score there either (unlike Telford, who does). Does this mean that Nichols is played out of position in those games as well? If so, then isn't a development game an ideal place to play Nichols in his favoured position and see how he gets on? Or is it that the development team plays the exact same way as the first team, in which case we will probably never see Nichols score again? I like D.C. but I think that’s a sh**e excuse for a player who’s so far been sh**e for us. He’s a forward he should be able to score goals or create goals f he’s played in attack. Agreed but it would be hard for DC to say publicly that Nichols has proved to be a cr*p signing and he now wishes he had not spent all his money on him. DC has got to encourage the lad provided he doing his best but I'll be surprised if he's not back at Exeter next year. It's a shame it's not working out for whatever reason but we are where we are on this one. |
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Post by stroudgas93 on Feb 21, 2018 17:37:57 GMT
I like D.C. but I think that’s a sh**e excuse for a player who’s so far been sh**e for us. He’s a forward he should be able to score goals or create goals f he’s played in attack. Agreed but it would be hard for DC to say publicly that Nichols has proved to be a cr*p signing and he now wishes he had not spent all his money on him. DC has got to encourage the lad provided he doing his best but I'll be surprised if he's not back at Exeter next year. It's a shame it's not working out for whatever reason but we are where we are on this one. I don't see why we have to pussyfoot around him tbh, I think DC needs to publicly call him out on how he isn't meeting expectations tbh, could be the only thing that'll give him a kick up the arse, if it doesn't work then oh well, we get rid. |
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Post by Big Jock on Feb 21, 2018 18:32:22 GMT
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Post by yategasman on Feb 21, 2018 18:44:00 GMT
Sounds like Telford is doing the right things to get himself into contention. I'd pick him over Nichols. If he doesn’t get a chance with us he’ll be off at the end of his loan period and someone else will reap the benefits typical Gas!! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 21, 2018 19:46:38 GMT
Agreed but it would be hard for DC to say publicly that Nichols has proved to be a cr*p signing and he now wishes he had not spent all his money on him. DC has got to encourage the lad provided he doing his best but I'll be surprised if he's not back at Exeter next year. It's a shame it's not working out for whatever reason but we are where we are on this one. I don't see why we have to pussyfoot around him tbh, I think DC needs to publicly call him out on how he isn't meeting expectations tbh, could be the only thing that'll give him a kick up the arse, if it doesn't work then oh well, we get rid. But that's not DC's style and if he is a player who lacks confidence then is calling him out in public really going to help his cause? We all love the team spirit DC's creates but you are now asking him to do something which is totally the opposite. As get rid he's got at least one, possibly two years, left on his contract and cost us £350K, I'd sooner DC keep working with him in the hope he comes good rather than write off £500K+ just yet. Although I'd now play Telford ahead of him a otherwise it seems pointless players putting in an extra shift in DS matches etc. |
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Post by stroudgas93 on Feb 21, 2018 20:39:46 GMT
I don't see why we have to pussyfoot around him tbh, I think DC needs to publicly call him out on how he isn't meeting expectations tbh, could be the only thing that'll give him a kick up the arse, if it doesn't work then oh well, we get rid. But that's not DC's style and if he is a player who lacks confidence then is calling him out in public really going to help his cause? We all love the team spirit DC's creates but you are now asking him to do something which is totally the opposite. As get rid he's got at least one, possibly two years, left on his contract and cost us £350K, I'd sooner DC keep working with him in the hope he comes good rather than write off £500K+ just yet. Although I'd now play Telford ahead of him a otherwise it seems pointless players putting in an extra shift in DS matches etc. Not being funny, he's a grown man, not a very strong one but still a man, if he can't take DC saying something along the lines of 'yeah Tom isn't in the match day squad, I need more from him but while he's getting it together I need to be able to see if other members of my squad can step up to the plate and provide competition for places' then he's not cut out to make it IMHO, football is a cutthroat business at the end of the day and managers, fans and chief executives want their players to be able to deliver, if they aren't delevering then I don't feel it's wrong to acknowledge that. |
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Post by romangas on Feb 21, 2018 22:02:14 GMT
... I added something in a similar vein on the TN meltdown thread.
Managers shouldn't keep faith in players out of form.TN has never
been in form in the first place from what I have seen !
BRFC is not a rehabilitation clinic to kick start a players
career.
He has scored twice this season...MK Dons and West Ham cup game.
Dom Telford and or Ryan Broom over him all day long....
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Feb 21, 2018 22:29:56 GMT
He was interviewed 11 games in about his goal drought.
He said he was happy with how he was playing but judges himself on goals.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 23:44:51 GMT
... I added something in a similar vein on the TN meltdown thread. Managers shouldn't keep faith in players out of form.TN has never been in form in the first place from what I have seen ! BRFC is not a rehabilitation clinic to kick start a players career. He has scored twice this season...MK Dons and West Ham cup game. Dom Telford and or Ryan Broom over him all day long.... Funny you mention the west ham game as i believe the very poor performance of telford and broom has cost both players badly from there on. |
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