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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 12:18:25 GMT
Without being disrespectful to the players . Bodin and Taylor both grabbed the chance to play at a higher level ,but both at small clubs. For them they were not sure if they could command a place in a higher level team. Lambert knew he was good and his skill set could be applied at the higher levels. So he could be confident in signing a new contract at Rovers as he knew someone would still come in. He left and went to a much bigger club than bcfc 1982 ltd sports:soccer dept. or PNE. We sold sir Rickie to a fellow third division club albeit a big club, who had just gone through administration if memory serves me correctly. |
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Post by Cantankerous Gas on Mar 2, 2018 12:32:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 12:32:48 GMT
Just shows how well Mr Dunford did then as we got millions for players back then. But we also had a lot of crap we couldn’t shift on long contracts. Works both ways The money we made on transfers kept us going, i'm pretty sure it was a lot more than the wages of the players that flopped. Martyn, Penrice, Stewart, Agogo, Hayles, Cureton, Roberts, Ellington, Lambert. Goal scorers are always in demand then and now, if the manger has belief in a player that he could play at a higher level offer them a three year contract, they don't have to offer all players in the squad that length of contract. Of course if they don't want to sign a contract that's up to them. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 12:54:29 GMT
Without being disrespectful to the players . Bodin and Taylor both grabbed the chance to play at a higher level ,but both at small clubs. For them they were not sure if they could command a place in a higher level team. Lambert knew he was good and his skill set could be applied at the higher levels. So he could be confident in signing a new contract at Rovers as he knew someone would still come in. He left and went to a much bigger club than bcfc 1982 ltd sports:soccer dept. or PNE. We sold sir Rickie to a fellow third division club albeit a big club, who had just gone through administration if memory serves me correctly. This is correct , though they still managed to stump up twice as much as the other two clubs combined. If Soton were in league two they would still be a bigger club than the other two mentioned clubs. Fulham were also in the same league when they bought Barry Hayles I think.
As for the red lot ,if they lose Flint they have little left and their promotion push ends. They don't score many goals for a upper table club and even then Flint adds to that tally. Its their defence that is their best attribute and he is key to it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 14:15:21 GMT
Another hindsight contract post. At the start of the season i was keen on ellis signing a new deal and a few others agreed. Lots more said get rid of him hes useless. Truth is at the start of the season a 1 year deal was probably the best option for the club. PS it was undisclosed. You would hope that those that see him on a day-to-day basis have the foresight when judging him, rather that us mere mortals judging once a week. Thats not strictly true because the bottom line is how your player performs on match day. Ellis was quite simply hot and cold last season. That said for all i know he might be on a longer contract,i just doubt that myself. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 14:21:23 GMT
What contracts do others think broadbent and menayese signed in january?
Either player could become a cheap sell if they only signed 18 month deals.
Which is what i reckon they signed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 15:24:14 GMT
What contracts do others think broadbent and menayese signed in january? Either player could become a cheap sell if they only signed 18 month deals. Which is what i reckon they signed. Is Broadbent over 25? If yes we risk losing him cheap as when his contract expires he would be a free agent. Menayese being under 25 could still attract a fee once his contract expires although in the lap of the gods as could go to a tribunal? Perhaps someone could correct me if I'm wrong on the this? I'm sure this still remains the case? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 2, 2018 18:09:55 GMT
Was it, why did Roberts and Lambert sign long contracts before we sold them, pre Bosman you held their registration and even if their contract finished they couldn't just walk away. When did the Bosman ruling come into effect. When Lambert signed his contract there was no sign of him being sold, so him signing a new contract when he did was no different to Harrison or Locks signing there's last summer, it seemed it was just be chance that the Saints came in for him shortly after he signed his contract. Although if he was here now he'd probably have the snakes agent telling him not to sign it w/o a low release clause inserted. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 18:38:28 GMT
Was it, why did Roberts and Lambert sign long contracts before we sold them, pre Bosman you held their registration and even if their contract finished they couldn't just walk away. When did the Bosman ruling come into effect. When Lambert signed his contract there was no sign of him being sold, so him signing a new contract when he did was no different to Harrison or Locks signing there's last summer, it seemed it was just be chance that the Saints came in for him shortly after he signed his contract. Although if he was here now he'd probably have the snakes agent telling him not to sign it w/o a low release clause inserted. He was top scorer in the division, i'm pretty sure we knew there would be interested parties. He played one game and scored the following season before being sold, if we didn't extend his contract i doubt we would have got as much. Ellis was out of contract and could have signed for whom ever offered him a deal, Lambert wasn't we just improved and extended his contract. I call that forward planning. |
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Mar 2, 2018 22:07:31 GMT
Was it, why did Roberts and Lambert sign long contracts before we sold them, pre Bosman you held their registration and even if their contract finished they couldn't just walk away. When did the Bosman ruling come into effect. When Lambert signed his contract there was no sign of him being sold, so him signing a new contract when he did was no different to Harrison or Locks signing there's last summer, it seemed it was just be chance that the Saints came in for him shortly after he signed his contract. Although if he was here now he'd probably have the snakes agent telling him not to sign it w/o a low release clause inserted. No. Lambert was hot property alright. 19 goals the season before and he had banged in 6 in his first 5 league games of the 2008/9 season when he penned the deal. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Mar 3, 2018 0:08:42 GMT
When Lambert signed his contract there was no sign of him being sold, so him signing a new contract when he did was no different to Harrison or Locks signing there's last summer, it seemed it was just be chance that the Saints came in for him shortly after he signed his contract. Although if he was here now he'd probably have the snakes agent telling him not to sign it w/o a low release clause inserted. He was top scorer in the division, i'm pretty sure we knew there would be interested parties. He played one game and scored the following season before being sold, if we didn't extend his contract i doubt we would have got as much. Ellis was out of contract and could have signed for whom ever offered him a deal, Lambert wasn't we just improved and extended his contract. I call that forward planning. He signed the contract extension the season before leaving. He did have a good season, but he was not the top goal scorer in the league at the time and there wasn't as much interest. It was the following season that he was the league's top goal scorer and then Southampton came in for him. |
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Post by chilly1883 on Mar 3, 2018 11:00:29 GMT
I see that the s##t have just extended Aiden Flints contract for three years. The ONLY reason I mention this is that in January 2019 they won’t be letting him go for an embarrassing undisclosed fee as they have acted now. If we don’t get proactive NOW will Ellis Harrison be the next player that we let go for a fraction of his worth? YES! Our business module on selling players, is truly embarrassing. |
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Mar 3, 2018 11:07:57 GMT
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Post by axegas on Mar 3, 2018 11:07:57 GMT
I see that the s##t have just extended Aiden Flints contract for three years. The ONLY reason I mention this is that in January 2019 they won’t be letting him go for an embarrassing undisclosed fee as they have acted now. If we don’t get proactive NOW will Ellis Harrison be the next player that we let go for a fraction of his worth? YES! Our business module on selling players, is truly embarrassing. Apart from the top 3 clubs in Europe, every club below that is a selling club, even our neighbors south of the river, no matter how high and mighty they think they are. Enjoy seeing such players in a blue and white shirt, there's no need to be embarrassed that we've let them take the opportunity they deserve to move onto bigger and better things. The only thing we need to do is make sure we get a good deal out of it and adequately replace them. |
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Post by aforce on Mar 3, 2018 13:29:10 GMT
Just shows how well Mr Dunford did then as we got millions for players back then. But we also had a lot of crap we couldn’t shift on long contracts. Works both ways How about the Oxford approach with Sercombe where they have a “option of another year” so whereby if you play x amount of games the club has the option to extend contract by another year? |
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Post by aforce on Mar 3, 2018 13:31:17 GMT
YES! Our business module on selling players, is truly embarrassing. Apart from the top 3 clubs in Europe, every club below that is a selling club, even our neighbors south of the river, no matter how high and mighty they think they are. Enjoy seeing such players in a blue and white shirt, there's no need to be embarrassed that we've let them take the opportunity they deserve to move onto bigger and better things. The only thing we need to do is make sure we get a good deal out of it and adequately replace them. I think it’s the poor transfer fees that we get in return that everyone is watery about. Oxford don’t even mention kemar roofe as they got £4m for him, we get less than 10% of that for our similar player in bodin |
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Post by axegas on Mar 3, 2018 13:45:41 GMT
Apart from the top 3 clubs in Europe, every club below that is a selling club, even our neighbors south of the river, no matter how high and mighty they think they are. Enjoy seeing such players in a blue and white shirt, there's no need to be embarrassed that we've let them take the opportunity they deserve to move onto bigger and better things. The only thing we need to do is make sure we get a good deal out of it and adequately replace them. I think it’s the poor transfer fees that we get in return that everyone is watery about. Oxford don’t even mention kemar roofe as they got £4m for him, we get less than 10% of that for our similar player in bodin The mistake perhaps was not getting him to sign for longer terms in the summer of 2016 when he signed a new deal. The club did all they could to retain his services and got a good deal when he left considering the short length of his contract so there is no qualms from me. Roofe was different because he signed on decent terms for Oxford, had one breakout season, showing scouts that he had potential and moved on in the summer when Oxford had no pressure to sell. Taylor and Bodin took a couple of years to get in their full stride hence they had little time left on their contracts and through showing little loyalty they were only going to leave for less than their worth. Roles could have easily been reversed and Oxford could have found themselves with a couple on contracts just about to end and us with a wonderkid with a good few years left on his contract. Emre Can at Liverpool is one of Europe's highest rated young midfielders yet he is set to leave on a free on the summer for a combination of reasons stated above. I think it's really important that we get the likes of Harrison and Sercombe on longer contracts so we don't see a repeat of the previous few years. |
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Mar 3, 2018 14:34:53 GMT
Seriously? We gonna do this all over AGAIN?
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Post by jkgas15 on Mar 4, 2018 2:14:36 GMT
Lyle Taylor is a great striker in this division - largely underrated, him and harrison would be deadly if Harrison continues showing the hunger he's playing with this year. Would have liked to have seen us go in for him in Jan, maybe we offered him a contract and he's signed it and he makes the move June 1st. Who knows, only time will tell |
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Post by chilly1883 on Mar 8, 2018 7:27:08 GMT
YES! Our business module on selling players, is truly embarrassing. Apart from the top 3 clubs in Europe, every club below that is a selling club, even our neighbors south of the river, no matter how high and mighty they think they are. Enjoy seeing such players in a blue and white shirt, there's no need to be embarrassed that we've let them take the opportunity they deserve to move onto bigger and better things. The only thing we need to do is make sure we get a good deal out of it and adequately replace them. Thats excactly the point I was making?. Did you think I was personally embarrassed about it. |
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Post by axegas on Mar 8, 2018 8:31:45 GMT
Apart from the top 3 clubs in Europe, every club below that is a selling club, even our neighbors south of the river, no matter how high and mighty they think they are. Enjoy seeing such players in a blue and white shirt, there's no need to be embarrassed that we've let them take the opportunity they deserve to move onto bigger and better things. The only thing we need to do is make sure we get a good deal out of it and adequately replace them. Thats excactly the point I was making?. Did you think I was personally embarrassed about it. Yes because you described it as "truly embarrassing", this is a message board not a conversation in the pub, It's impossible to gauge whether you were being serious or sarcastic. |
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