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Post by paul on Mar 2, 2018 6:44:00 GMT
I see that the s##t have just extended Aiden Flints contract for three years. The ONLY reason I mention this is that in January 2019 they won’t be letting him go for an embarrassing undisclosed fee as they have acted now. If we don’t get proactive NOW will Ellis Harrison be the next player that we let go for a fraction of his worth?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Mar 2, 2018 7:16:09 GMT
I see that the s##t have just extended Aiden Flints contract for three years. The ONLY reason I mention this is that in January 2019 they won’t be letting him go for an embarrassing undisclosed fee as they have acted now. If we don’t get proactive NOW will Ellis Harrison be the next player that we let go for a fraction of his worth? Are you an alien? |
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Post by gregsy on Mar 2, 2018 7:34:05 GMT
I see that the s##t have just extended Aiden Flints contract for three years. The ONLY reason I mention this is that in January 2019 they won’t be letting him go for an embarrassing undisclosed fee as they have acted now. If we don’t get proactive NOW will Ellis Harrison be the next player that we let go for a fraction of his worth? Are you an alien? This isn't a dating website ggmi..... |
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Post by Squiffy on Mar 2, 2018 9:31:36 GMT
It’s an interesting one as it appears that the balance of power shifts from the club to the players the higher up the pyramid you go. DC’s policy of recruiting young keen players with a point to prove, on short term contacts, is easier in the lower tiers as the talent pool at that level is obviously bigger and the competition fiercer. In the last twelve months or so the recruitment experience at Rovers suggests that model may no longer be possible and regrettably a more talent retention based approach is necessary. It will be interesting to see what develops.
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Post by philbemmygas on Mar 2, 2018 10:10:35 GMT
It’s an interesting one as it appears that the balance of power shifts from the club to the players the higher up the pyramid you go. DC’s policy of recruiting young keen players with a point to prove, on short term contacts, is easier in the lower tiers as the talent pool at that level is obviously bigger and the competition fiercer. In the last twelve months or so the recruitment experience at Rovers suggests that model may no longer be possible and regrettably a more talent retention based approach is necessary. It will be interesting to see what develops. Hence we seemed to have agreed new contracts with some of the players already this season. UTG |
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 2, 2018 10:14:29 GMT
I see that the s##t have just extended Aiden Flints contract for three years. The ONLY reason I mention this is that in January 2019 they won’t be letting him go for an embarrassing undisclosed fee as they have acted now. If we don’t get proactive NOW will Ellis Harrison be the next player that we let go for a fraction of his worth? see your point but a poor example to use - he was already on a long contract & apparently had attracted multi-million pound bids. They've clearly just improved his contract AGAIN to keep him at the club - nothing to do with getting a better transfer fee for him. You may have noticed we aren't a club with a billionaire owner with money / shares easily available. Nor with a decent ground. Nor with the £5 m extra a year teams get just for being in the Championship (whatever position they finish in). Nor the TV money. Catch 22. Until we sort ourselves out this dull status quo will go on forever. AS we've seen with Bodin we simply cannot offer enough money, facilities or ambition to keep the best players. We were trying for over 6 months to improve his contract apparently. Whether a player is willing is to sign a contract that allows us more of a chance of a decent transfer fee though is down to the player. Lambert did. Bodin didn't. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 10:15:02 GMT
Another hindsight contract post.
At the start of the season i was keen on ellis signing a new deal and a few others agreed.
Lots more said get rid of him hes useless.
Truth is at the start of the season a 1 year deal was probably the best option for the club.
PS it was undisclosed.
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 2, 2018 10:15:28 GMT
It’s an interesting one as it appears that the balance of power shifts from the club to the players the higher up the pyramid you go. DC’s policy of recruiting young keen players with a point to prove, on short term contacts, is easier in the lower tiers as the talent pool at that level is obviously bigger and the competition fiercer. In the last twelve months or so the recruitment experience at Rovers suggests that model may no longer be possible and regrettably a more talent retention based approach is necessary. It will be interesting to see what develops. Hence we seemed to have agreed new contracts with some of the players already this season. UTG Exactly. and every season we do. Some sign early, some sign late, some don't sign. |
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Post by Okebournegas on Mar 2, 2018 10:24:06 GMT
Dry lunch
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Post by mariobalotelli on Mar 2, 2018 10:27:51 GMT
I see that the s##t have just extended Aiden Flints contract for three years. The ONLY reason I mention this is that in January 2019 they won’t be letting him go for an embarrassing undisclosed fee as they have acted now. If we don’t get proactive NOW will Ellis Harrison be the next player that we let go for a fraction of his worth? How do you know he hasn’t requested a small transfer release clause in order to sign the contract? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 10:40:41 GMT
I see that the s##t have just extended Aiden Flints contract for three years. The ONLY reason I mention this is that in January 2019 they won’t be letting him go for an embarrassing undisclosed fee as they have acted now. If we don’t get proactive NOW will Ellis Harrison be the next player that we let go for a fraction of his worth? How do you know he hasn’t requested a small transfer release clause in order to sign the contract? Exactly. Unless we had used thumb screws MT would never have signed a deal without the clause. Perhaps the only way to avoid losing players on the cheap or free is to tie them down to 10 year contracts when we sign them as unknowns - we could then demand any fee we want for those that excel but also be stuck with 10 years of wages on all the others who may turn out to be duds! Running a football club is so easy with hindsight. If a consortium of this forums members ran the club we'd be making millions and winning league titles and cups every year! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 10:45:31 GMT
How do you know he hasn’t requested a small transfer release clause in order to sign the contract? Exactly. Unless we had used thumb screws MT would never have signed a deal without the clause. Perhaps the only way to avoid losing players on the cheap or free is to tie them down to 10 year contracts when we sign them as unknowns - we could then demand any fee we want for those that excel but also be stuck with 10 years of wages on all the others who may turn out to be duds! Running a football club is so easy with hindsight. If a consortium of this forums members ran the club we'd be making millions and winning league titles and cups every year! Just shows how well Mr Dunford did then as we got millions for players back then. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 10:53:46 GMT
Exactly. Unless we had used thumb screws MT would never have signed a deal without the clause. Perhaps the only way to avoid losing players on the cheap or free is to tie them down to 10 year contracts when we sign them as unknowns - we could then demand any fee we want for those that excel but also be stuck with 10 years of wages on all the others who may turn out to be duds! Running a football club is so easy with hindsight. If a consortium of this forums members ran the club we'd be making millions and winning league titles and cups every year! Just shows how well Mr Dunford did then as we got millions for players back then. Different era Pre Bosman |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Mar 2, 2018 10:54:28 GMT
Another hindsight contract post. At the start of the season i was keen on ellis signing a new deal and a few others agreed. Lots more said get rid of him hes useless. Truth is at the start of the season a 1 year deal was probably the best option for the club. PS it was undisclosed. You would hope that those that see him on a day-to-day basis have the foresight when judging him, rather that us mere mortals judging once a week. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Mar 2, 2018 11:00:09 GMT
Just shows how well Mr Dunford did then as we got millions for players back then. Different era Pre Bosman Will the Bosman still apply post brexit ? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 11:12:38 GMT
Just shows how well Mr Dunford did then as we got millions for players back then. Different era Pre Bosman Was it, why did Roberts and Lambert sign long contracts before we sold them, pre Bosman you held their registration and even if their contract finished they couldn't just walk away. When did the Bosman ruling come into effect. |
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Post by poorblue on Mar 2, 2018 11:17:57 GMT
Exactly. Unless we had used thumb screws MT would never have signed a deal without the clause. Perhaps the only way to avoid losing players on the cheap or free is to tie them down to 10 year contracts when we sign them as unknowns - we could then demand any fee we want for those that excel but also be stuck with 10 years of wages on all the others who may turn out to be duds! Running a football club is so easy with hindsight. If a consortium of this forums members ran the club we'd be making millions and winning league titles and cups every year! Just shows how well Mr Dunford did then as we got millions for players back then. Lets give them all 10 year contracts just like a certain team prior to Bristol 1984 ltd did. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 11:25:56 GMT
Just shows how well Mr Dunford did then as we got millions for players back then. Lets give them all 10 year contracts just like a certain team prior to Bristol 1984 ltd did. 1982 ltd, we have never given ten year contracts, but what ever we did back then we got good money for players and usually sell on clauses. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 11:39:30 GMT
Without being disrespectful to the players . Bodin and Taylor both grabbed the chance to play at a higher level ,but both at small clubs.
For them they were not sure if they could command a place in a higher level team.
Lambert knew he was good and his skill set could be applied at the higher levels.
So he could be confident in signing a new contract at Rovers as he knew someone would still come in.
He left and went to a much bigger club than bcfc 1982 ltd sports:soccer dept. or PNE.
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Post by warehamgas on Mar 2, 2018 11:42:07 GMT
How do you know he hasn’t requested a small transfer release clause in order to sign the contract? Exactly. Unless we had used thumb screws MT would never have signed a deal without the clause. Perhaps the only way to avoid losing players on the cheap or free is to tie them down to 10 year contracts when we sign them as unknowns - we could then demand any fee we want for those that excel but also be stuck with 10 years of wages on all the others who may turn out to be duds!
Running a football club is so easy with hindsight. If a consortium of this forums members ran the club we'd be making millions and winning league titles and cups every year! Yes, and we know where that can end up. For some players it would be good but for every good one I bet there would be 4/5 who aren’t. It seems with the recent players who have signed contracts the club is aware and I don’t even expect we know a fraction of what goes on behind the scenes and tbh neither should we. Some complain about the amateurish way Rovers are run but it’s good that the new owners are more businesslike and less seems to leak out. Not that it stops rumours and other stuff circulating! UTG! |
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