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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 2, 2018 16:41:30 GMT
Shocking performance today from the boys Feared the worst when both Lines & brown named in the team Goalie had a ok game Back four ok Craig was pick of the bunch, Lockyer... oh dear at fault for both goals Midfield ineffective with Moore the only one looking ok... Lines should know better than to keep his mouth shut Front 2 up against some big blokes and we just booted up in the air to them. Telford was like a little school boy and looked lost Subs - no point The dream is over for this season lets just go out and enjoy the football Think you watched a different game to me, until Lines' red we dominated the game and had a couple of decent shots on target, we just seemed to be getting completely on top when Bolger had a swing at Harrison after they chased a long ball, then Lines mouthed off to the ref after another foul and the wheels then fell off the wagon. I agree re Locks but he was being asked to play at RB, although not sure that's an excuse for the second goal. |
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Post by pirate on Apr 2, 2018 16:42:43 GMT
Signing a bunch of players and praying that they gel spontaneously is never the answer. We need like 2-3 players for next season, no more. Team cohesion and believing in what we already have is what pushed us out of the Conference and into League One, as opposed to a 40-man squad that got us relegated into our lowest point. 5 or 6 players needed for me - left back, right back, centre back, defensive midfielder, winger and a striker. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 2, 2018 16:46:40 GMT
In my opinion the ref was not the problem today. In the first half there midfielder clattered one of ours and got a yellow. But I noticed Lines charged at the ref straight away demanding red. I thought at the time he was out of order. In the 2nd half Eliis had a foul given against him that maybe he shouldn't BUT Lines ran over and gave the ref a mouthful. He was rightly booked and yet he still kept mouthing off. The women behind me was telling at him to shut up...and watching him you could see he had the red must. Then something else happened (not clear on what) which lead to the 2nd yellow. It was not a suprise. Not trying to dig Lines out, but today he lost his cool and it cost us. The challenge on Moore was similar to the one on Sincs at Charlton where the player did get a red, the Ellis incident was Bolger(?) having a swing at him when they were holding each others shirts, which the ref choose to ignore. Lines was walking away when the ref gave him a second yellow, so I can't see what red mist as to do with it. |
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Post by tbonegas on Apr 2, 2018 16:48:12 GMT
Shocking performance today from the boys Feared the worst when both Lines & brown named in the team Goalie had a ok game Back four ok Craig was pick of the bunch, Lockyer... oh dear at fault for both goals Midfield ineffective with Moore the only one looking ok... Lines should know better than to keep his mouth shut Front 2 up against some big blokes and we just booted up in the air to them. Telford was like a little school boy and looked lost Subs - no point The dream is over for this season lets just go out and enjoy the football Think you watched a different game to me, until Lines' red we dominated the game and had a couple of decent shots on target, we just seemed to be getting completely on top when Bolger had a swing at Harrison after they chased a long ball, then Lines mouthed off to the ref after another foul and the wheels then fell off the wagon. I agree re Locks but he was being asked to play at RB, although not sure that's an excuse for the second goal. How many times during this season have people moaned about undroppable Tom? He is one of the ones that needs to be replaced in order for us to challenge for the next level. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Apr 2, 2018 16:49:48 GMT
Signing a bunch of players and praying that they gel spontaneously is never the answer. We need like 2-3 players for next season, no more. Team cohesion and believing in what we already have is what pushed us out of the Conference and into League One, as opposed to a 40-man squad that got us relegated into our lowest point. 5 or 6 players needed for me - left back, right back, centre back, defensive midfielder, winger and a striker. We missed our chance last season. This season we have teams competing such as Wigan and Blackburn who can afford the likes of Nick Powell, Bradley Dack, Danny Graham and Will Grigg. God knows how Rotherham are up there though, they were bloody awful. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Apr 2, 2018 16:54:31 GMT
Shocking performance today from the boys Feared the worst when both Lines & brown named in the team Goalie had a ok game Back four ok Craig was pick of the bunch, Lockyer... oh dear at fault for both goals Midfield ineffective with Moore the only one looking ok... Lines should know better than to keep his mouth shut Front 2 up against some big blokes and we just booted up in the air to them. Telford was like a little school boy and looked lost Subs - no point The dream is over for this season lets just go out and enjoy the football How can you enjoy what you just described? It was by far the worst away performance this season - i did not enjoy it one bit |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 2, 2018 16:58:12 GMT
we haven't won away to a team in the top 16 all season. We might of drew 2 and lost about 12. Our away form is always awful...
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Apr 2, 2018 16:59:48 GMT
I'm a big Lines fan but he's cost us big time today up until his red card we'd pretty much controlled the game. I'm confident 11 v 11 we would have won, no excuse for 2 yellows in as many minutes for dissent.
I personally don't think we'd have made the play offs anyway but we'd have still been in the mix, haven't heard DCs interview but can't imagine he'd have been impressed he certainly didn't look too happy when Lines walked passed him.
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Post by pirate on Apr 2, 2018 17:03:42 GMT
5 or 6 players needed for me - left back, right back, centre back, defensive midfielder, winger and a striker. We missed our chance last season. This season we have teams competing such as Wigan and Blackburn who can afford the likes of Nick Powell, Bradley Dack, Danny Graham and Will Grigg. God knows how Rotherham are up there though, they were bloody awful. We need to look further afield and pick up 2 or 3 gems from abroad. If Scunthorpe can sign someone like Funso Ojo, I dont see why we can't do something similar. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 17:05:46 GMT
I'm a big Lines fan but he's cost us big time today up until his red card we'd pretty much controlled the game. I'm confident 11 v 11 we would have won, no excuse for 2 yellows in as many minutes for dissent. I personally don't think we'd have made the play offs anyway but we'd have still been in the mix, haven't heard DCs interview but can't imagine he'd have been impressed he certainly didn't look too happy when Lines walked passed him. According to henburygas that was the worst away performance of the season. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 17:07:25 GMT
After yet another questionable away performance by a side in my opinion over rated by many on here, some of those people yet again blame a defeat on the referee.
Results don't lie and I would suggest we need more than "a few tweaks" to bring us a good team. That is a team that is hard to beat and is consistent, something we are quite clearly not.
Even today's opponents have now won four games on the trot, correct me if I am wrong but that is something we have not achieved all season.
UTG!
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Post by twertonboy on Apr 2, 2018 17:07:49 GMT
Think you watched a different game to me, until Lines' red we dominated the game and had a couple of decent shots on target, we just seemed to be getting completely on top when Bolger had a swing at Harrison after they chased a long ball, then Lines mouthed off to the ref after another foul and the wheels then fell off the wagon. I agree re Locks but he was being asked to play at RB, although not sure that's an excuse for the second goal. How many times during this season have people moaned about undroppable Tom? He is one of the ones that needs to be replaced in order for us to challenge for the next level. There’s a few important steps for us to succeed on the pitch to get promoted out of league one and dropping players for bad performances is one instead of playing them week in week out.. Picking a team and formation to always play to your strengths and not picking teams and formations to try and cancel out your opposition because that only works in the prem where you have the players at the highest of standard to understand each role given to them... That’s exactly what’s happened at Shrewsbury,picking his best team to their best formation and look where they are... A player can get man of the match one week and dropped the next... Score coming off the bench for a striker then put back on the bench isn’t the right formula in my opinion...play the players in their current form and only drop them if they don’t perform... Broadbent clearly our best player showing great promise and then dropped for players who make mistakes week in week out Gaffney has come off the bench and had m.o.m before then dropped Slocombe dropped before when didn’t put a foot wrong |
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Post by LJG on Apr 2, 2018 17:07:55 GMT
But to say that people can't be annoyed by poor decisions is just disingenuous. Like saying you shouldn't swear if you stub your toe because there's no one to blame but yourself. People only get annoyed when it goes against their team though. They don't complain if its the other way round. We're not good enough to get in the Play Offs. On to next season and a promotion push hopefully. Well those are two slightly different points aren't they? 1. People get annoyed when it goes against their team - well that's just human nature isn't it? You don't go and have a shouting match with your neighbour if he backs into someone else's car do you? 2. It evens itself out over the course of the season - that's certainly how it should work probability wise but probability is easily bucked and there's no guarantee that's the case. Even objectively speaking you'd have to admit we've had more poor decisions go against us than for us this season. (I'm not including today because I have no idea what happened). But still even taking both of those things into account there's no reason people shouldn't feel agrieved when a decision is clearly wrong and impacts on the outcome of the game. You're right though - these things don't effect better teams because they don't rely on the margin of luck and put games out of sight. |
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Post by twertonboy on Apr 2, 2018 17:10:50 GMT
We aren’t consistent because we haven’t got a consistent team sheet week in and out...
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Post by Colyton Gas on Apr 2, 2018 17:18:06 GMT
Shrewsbury up there on modest crowds so there are examples of good management.Accrington too will be up next season on miniscule attendances.Higher up Bournemouth and Burnley do well on small crowds.Need more quality all round but agree Locks has reached his pinnacle and won't go higher.Anyway think we can relax now.Neither us or the other Bristol club-sorry forgotten their name-will go up or down.Time to reflect on which youngsters should be given a run out and which players should be released.We all have opinions and all wanted to see Dom Telford start but seems he wasn't the star we thought he'd be.Don't think him,TN or Gaffers are good enough so need to recruit up front and midfield especially.
Anyway ,pressure off now so roll on August.
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Post by Gastafari on Apr 2, 2018 17:21:34 GMT
People only get annoyed when it goes against their team though. They don't complain if its the other way round. We're not good enough to get in the Play Offs. On to next season and a promotion push hopefully. Well those are two slightly different points aren't they? 1. People get annoyed when it goes against their team - well that's just human nature isn't it? You don't go and have a shouting match with your neighbour if he backs into someone else's car do you? 2. It evens itself out over the course of the season - that's certainly how it should work probability wise but probability is easily bucked and there's no guarantee that's the case. Even objectively speaking you'd have to admit we've had more poor decisions go against us than for us this season. (I'm not including today because I have no idea what happened). But still even taking both of those things into account there's no reason people shouldn't feel agrieved when a decision is clearly wrong and impacts on the outcome of the game. You're right though - these things don't effect better teams because they don't rely on the margin of luck and put games out of sight. Not really. Blaming solely the referee just because we lose is a cop out. Of course you can feel agrieved at a bad decision from the referee, but over the course of a 90 minute Football match players make far more. The saying "It evens itself out over a season" is absolute nonsense, it doesn't. Its just a Football cliche. The better teams are more clinical, and like you said don't need to rely on the decisions of a referee to win a Football match. At the end of the day we're not quite good enough, nothing to do with Referee's. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 17:23:05 GMT
Shrewsbury up there on modest crowds so there are examples of good management.Accrington too will be up next season on miniscule attendances.Higher up Bournemouth and Burnley do well on small crowds.Need more quality all round but agree Locks has reached his pinnacle and won't go higher.Anyway think we can relax now.Neither us or the other Bristol club-sorry forgotten their name-will go up or down.Time to reflect on which youngsters should be given a run out and which players should be released.We all have opinions and all wanted to see Dom Telford start but seems he wasn't the star we thought he'd be.Don't think him,TN or Gaffers are good enough so need to recruit up front and midfield especially. Anyway ,pressure off now so roll on August. Right on the money regarding our strikers and mid field requirements Staffs. |
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Apr 2, 2018 17:24:43 GMT
I'm a big Lines fan but he's cost us big time today up until his red card we'd pretty much controlled the game. I'm confident 11 v 11 we would have won, no excuse for 2 yellows in as many minutes for dissent. I personally don't think we'd have made the play offs anyway but we'd have still been in the mix, haven't heard DCs interview but can't imagine he'd have been impressed he certainly didn't look too happy when Lines walked passed him. According to henburygas that was the worst away performance of the season. All about opinions I guess but up until red card Slocombe had made 1 save & we'd looked more like scoring. Considering some of the hammerings earlier in the season I certainly wouldn't class today as a bad performance let alone the worst |
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Post by althepirate on Apr 2, 2018 17:26:24 GMT
Good performance but badly let down by the front two whose first touch and hold up play was woeful and of course Chris Lines. If we mean business we have to get at least one possibly two physically strong strikers.
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Post by socrates on Apr 2, 2018 17:26:59 GMT
We missed our chance last season. This season we have teams competing such as Wigan and Blackburn who can afford the likes of Nick Powell, Bradley Dack, Danny Graham and Will Grigg. God knows how Rotherham are up there though, they were bloody awful. We need to look further afield and pick up 2 or 3 gems from abroad. If Scunthorpe can sign someone like Funso Ojo, I dont see why we can't do something similar. I wish the club would get you in for a few hours and listen to what you’ve got to say. It’s a big world and a small England and we can’t compete with the majority of the clubs financially at our level so looking abroad would surely be a wise move. The championship and smaller premier league clubs do it because most of the top English players play for the top 6 -7 in the Prem and I’ve heard many a manager at that level say it but we don’t seem to be even looking |
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