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Post by twertonboy on Apr 22, 2018 19:33:10 GMT
Do you see our league position beating our 10th position of last season? We won’t finish above 11th this season..
With our current squad and manager where do you see us finishing?
Me personally I think we’ll be around 15th..
Without sercombe in the team we struggle for 90 minutes to have any effect from midfield apart from Bennett for a whole season... Lines/Sinclair/Clarke all struggle to keep up with a high standard on a consistent level...
Same with back four...
Leads/brown/locks all struggled to keep consistent form all season in league one when they shined in league 2...
Same with forwards Harrison has had his best season but still loads to improve on to become a great league one striker consistently Gaffney has gone off the boil Nichols needs a season in league 2... Mensah looks completely out of his depth at the moment
Dc is up against it financially and can only see him doing another season especially if we go backwards as he’ll protect his reputation to land a good club next time...
In reality with our best 11 players playing every week to their highest standard we have a chance of being in the top six but obviously that never happens so I can’t see us getting any higher and Taylor going and bodin you can really see how that’s effected us when it counts...
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Post by gregsy on Apr 22, 2018 19:42:09 GMT
I think the forum is all getting a bit ahead of itself. We've got 3 games left, then a world cup. Yet we have threads about playing Sunderland, what if Darrell leaves and now this one. I appreciate that our seasons effectively over, but there's still football to be played, and most probably a lot of off-field activity over the summer to chew over before I can bring myself to personally get involved in all this stuff....
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Post by pucklegas on Apr 22, 2018 19:42:39 GMT
I hate to say it but unless we make a few quality signings I think we might struggle next year, we need to have our targets and recruit early like with Sercs last year. A few tidy players out of contract Matt Godden and Oztumer.
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Post by pirate on Apr 22, 2018 19:55:04 GMT
I hate to say it but unless we make a few quality signings I think we might struggle next year, we need to have our targets and recruit early like with Sercs last year. A few tidy players out of contract Matt Godden and Oztumer. Godden isn't anything special IMHO and has only scored 10 league goals this season.
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Post by axegas on Apr 22, 2018 20:00:09 GMT
Hard to answer that because we all don’t know who’s going to be here next season and who we will bring in and what sort of budget that DC will get.
If there is no incomings or outgoings and everything stays how it is, I think we will finish 11-12th similar to how we will most likely finish off this season. The division isn’t going to get any stronger or weaker in my eyes as a couple of big teams will go up (most likely Blackburn and Wigan) and a couple will go down in Sunderland and Barnsley/Bolton.
One recurring mistake that we must rectify over the summer is having our players on contracts that are not secure enough to ward off interest from bigger clubs. If we can get Sercombe and Harrison on longer contracts, even if this means increased terms, this will be the first step towards becoming a top six team.
If we can also get 2-3 signings in key positions and retain some of our better players, I think we can finish 8-9th minimum and maybe even get our way into the top six depending on how well we do. The last couple of seasons in this division have seen us start fairly poorly, lose our best player in January and then really start to pick up results to finish in the upper reaches of mid table. If we can be better over the first period of the season, keep our better players for the course of the whole season and have a similar January and February to the last couple of seasons, then I do not see why it wouldn’t be possible to have a really decent campaign next year.
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Post by pirate on Apr 22, 2018 20:05:38 GMT
Really hard to predict without seeing our transfer business. It all depends on our recruitment this summer.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Apr 22, 2018 20:06:21 GMT
I think we look in good shape for next season.
I’d like us to sign Telford and another striker. That means probably letting Gaffers or Nichols (if possible) go.
I’d like a fit Ollie Clarke rather than one constantly struggling with injury. If that’s not possible then with a heavy heart, we would need to replace him. An experienced pro in front of the defence would not go amiss in any case.
All in all, not too much business needed.
I’m very excited to see the development of the likes of Menayese, Russe, Kelly and Baghdadi, who will be pushing the established first teamers even more next year.
Bennett, Sercombe, Ellis and Lines will remain key players. Obviously we need to keep DC and our best players. That is not a given.
Our players can continue to flourish under our coaching set up. No-one predicted that Ellis would have the season he has had. The development squad has been excellent. Only need to keep tinkering a little to get more quality and know how in a couple of key positions (defensive midfield and up front). Definitely no big squad overhaul required. Crystal ball out: We will finish 6th.
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Post by axegas on Apr 22, 2018 20:12:27 GMT
I hate to say it but unless we make a few quality signings I think we might struggle next year, we need to have our targets and recruit early like with Sercs last year. A few tidy players out of contract Matt Godden and Oztumer. Godden isn't anything special IMHO and has only scored 10 league goals this season. I believe Godden has been injured a fair bit this year and hasn't got the service in a poor Stevenage team. He's also been played at CAM a bit aswell. I saw Stevenage once or twice last year as I have relatives out that way and I actually think Godden could do well in League One, he creates chances for himself and is very powerful and direct. Kennedy is another to look out for though I believe they rejected a bid from Leeds in the region of 2m so a bit pricey. I'd see about getting Connor Chaplin in who has fallen out of favour with Portsmouth, Ivan Toney on loan or someone like Christian Doidge who has been scoring regularly for FGR this season but Godden wouldn't be the worst signing we could make, I think he could make the step up.
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Post by tbonegas on Apr 22, 2018 20:23:58 GMT
Godden isn't anything special IMHO and has only scored 10 league goals this season. I believe Godden has been injured a fair bit this year and hasn't got the service in a poor Stevenage team. He's also been played at CAM a bit aswell. I saw Stevenage once or twice last year as I have relatives out that way and I actually think Godden could do well in League One, he creates chances for himself and is very powerful and direct. Kennedy is another to look out for though I believe they rejected a bid from Leeds in the region of 2m so a bit pricey. I'd see about getting Connor Chaplin in who has fallen out of favour with Portsmouth, Ivan Toney on loan or someone like Christian Doidge who has been scoring regularly for FGR this season but Godden wouldn't be the worst signing we could make, I think he could make the step up. Thanks Wes.
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Post by pirate on Apr 22, 2018 20:26:31 GMT
Godden isn't anything special IMHO and has only scored 10 league goals this season. I believe Godden has been injured a fair bit this year and hasn't got the service in a poor Stevenage team. He's also been played at CAM a bit aswell. I saw Stevenage once or twice last year as I have relatives out that way and I actually think Godden could do well in League One, he creates chances for himself and is very powerful and direct. Kennedy is another to look out for though I believe they rejected a bid from Leeds in the region of 2m so a bit pricey. I'd see about getting Connor Chaplin in who has fallen out of favour with Portsmouth, Ivan Toney on loan or someone like Christian Doidge who has been scoring regularly for FGR this season but Godden wouldn't be the worst signing we could make, I think he could make the step up. We'll have to agree to disagree on Godden then, I'm not convinced. Even last season he only scored 15 goals from open play in League Two. Wheeler and Berry scored more from a midfield position. One striker I'm really warming to having seen him a few times now is Sergio Buenacasa at Barakaldo in Spain. He is well schooled at Barcelona and Juventus and has the physical and technical attributes to get 15-20 goals in League One IMHO. If he could be convinced to move over here, he could be an inspired signing on a free.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 20:36:43 GMT
Do you see our league position beating our 10th position of last season? We won’t finish above 11th this season.. With our current squad and manager where do you see us finishing? Me personally I think we’ll be around 15th.. Without sercombe in the team we struggle for 90 minutes to have any effect from midfield apart from Bennett for a whole season... Lines/Sinclair/Clarke all struggle to keep up with a high standard on a consistent level... Same with back four... Leads/brown/locks all struggled to keep consistent form all season in league one when they shined in league 2... Same with forwards Harrison has had his best season but still loads to improve on to become a great league one striker consistently Gaffney has gone off the boil Nichols needs a season in league 2... Mensah looks completely out of his depth at the moment Dc is up against it financially and can only see him doing another season especially if we go backwards as he’ll protect his reputation to land a good club next time... In reality with our best 11 players playing every week to their highest standard we have a chance of being in the top six but obviously that never happens so I can’t see us getting any higher and Taylor going and bodin you can really see how that’s effected us when it counts... We got a transfer embargo have we
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Post by singupgas on Apr 22, 2018 20:37:09 GMT
Keep DC and he brings enough quality, I think there is 4 or 5 starting 11 places we should be looking at improving, if the players come in then who knows.
Our transfer dealing are usually quite slow, I would like us for once to get players to sign early because they want to play for us.
Definite starters for me next season would be, Either GK, Broadbent, Craig, Bennett, Sercombe and Harrison. That would be the players I build around.
I am just hopeful we finally hear some news about training ground and dare I say it stadium build or development.
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Post by axegas on Apr 22, 2018 20:50:52 GMT
I believe Godden has been injured a fair bit this year and hasn't got the service in a poor Stevenage team. He's also been played at CAM a bit aswell. I saw Stevenage once or twice last year as I have relatives out that way and I actually think Godden could do well in League One, he creates chances for himself and is very powerful and direct. Kennedy is another to look out for though I believe they rejected a bid from Leeds in the region of 2m so a bit pricey. I'd see about getting Connor Chaplin in who has fallen out of favour with Portsmouth, Ivan Toney on loan or someone like Christian Doidge who has been scoring regularly for FGR this season but Godden wouldn't be the worst signing we could make, I think he could make the step up. Thanks Wes. Who’s Wes?
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Post by tbonegas on Apr 22, 2018 21:12:52 GMT
Who’s Wes? You is Wes, man.
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Post by markczgas on Apr 22, 2018 21:34:32 GMT
Scoring -wise I think we'll be ok - with Harrison, Sercombe and Bennett - we need one new player minimum to contribute with 10 - 20 goals ( now no Bodin).
But our biggest problem, not rectified this season, is our defence and goals against - playing top 10 sides away you pretty much know we're going to concede the first goal and then that's game, set and match.
The spine needs to be stronger and we need full backs that are tough and mean who hate being passed / letting crosses get over. DC hasn't sorted this in two seasons - time to get it right !
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Post by markczgas on Apr 22, 2018 21:36:03 GMT
Keep DC and he brings enough quality, I think there is 4 or 5 starting 11 places we should be looking at improving, if the players come in then who knows. Our transfer dealing are usually quite slow, I would like us for once to get players to sign early because they want to play for us. Definite starters for me next season would be, Either GK, Broadbent, Craig, Bennett, Sercombe and Harrison. That would be the players I build around. I am just hopeful we finally hear some news about training ground and dare I say it stadium build or development. Agree with everything - but don't care about Smith - don't think he's up to being a good L1 keeper.
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 23, 2018 5:41:32 GMT
I think we look in good shape for next season. I’d like us to sign Telford and another striker. That means probably letting Gaffers or Nichols (if possible) go. I’d like a fit Ollie Clarke rather than one constantly struggling with injury. If that’s not possible then with a heavy heart, we would need to replace him. An experienced pro in front of the defence would not go amiss in any case. All in all, not too much business needed. I’m very excited to see the development of the likes of Menayese, Russe, Kelly and Baghdadi, who will be pushing the established first teamers even more next year. Bennett, Sercombe, Ellis and Lines will remain key players. Obviously we need to keep DC and our best players. That is not a given. Our players can continue to flourish under our coaching set up. No-one predicted that Ellis would have the season he has had. The development squad has been excellent. Only need to keep tinkering a little to get more quality and know how in a couple of key positions (defensive midfield and up front). Definitely no big squad overhaul required. Crystal ball out: We will finish 6th. i like the optimism! Hope you’re right. Agree with much you’ve said but at this stage we don’t know who’s staying, who will be recruited or even who will be in charge. I think D.C. will stay and the squad could evolve much as you said. I suspect we will know more by the start of August! But even in August after recruitment people get it wrong, remember Bury and Northampton last Summer, they bought everything that moved and look where they are now! But bring in a bit of quality in 2/3/4 players, keep the squad ethos and fightbackability of these players and we could do well. I know it goes against much of what’s being said on here but I like this gradual improvement, window by window, this evolution keeps us improving. Whereas some of our rivals over the past four years, Barnet, Grimsby, Oxford, Northampton, haven’t done and have regressed. AFCW with their ground, Accrington, Plymouth and Pompey have, like us gradually improved and are doing well. I like this evolution not revolution. I am of course aware that the new ground remains the elephant in the room! UTG!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Apr 23, 2018 6:21:16 GMT
If we have a chance of signing Lumley then I would go in for him and have Slocombe as backup, let Smith go. Otherwise keep with what we have (2 average L1 keepers).
Let James Clarke go unless he is on very low wages, sign another LB and maybe another CB. Send Mayo back out on loan, send Bola back.
Midfield - Let Byron Moore go, sign a replacement winger and another technically good CM (we already have Clarke, Russe and Sinclair for the ugly bits)
Up front - Sign Telford and play him more!, release Gaffney (with a heavy heart), keep Nichols for another season but warn him he needs to improve or will be out next summer. Sign a replacement for Gaffers
P.S Not sure what is going to happen with Ryan Broom
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 23, 2018 7:57:05 GMT
I'm hoping DC signs quality over quantity with three key positions filled and then replace any players leaving. Those positions for me are cover/competition for Lee Brown , Ollie Clarke and Tom Nicholls.
Keep a first team squad of about 20-24 players and use the development squad to cover cup games, injuries and suspensions until January when we can reassess what is needed. Then add another 2 or so depending on requirements.
Last season DC was quick to name those being released but as far as I can tell there haven't even been hints this time (which is better in my opinion, even if it means fewer discussion points) .
Another interesting situation is whether the development squad is added to or if existing players are released to make room, and how any youth team players given contracts are fitted in to the structure.
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Post by midlandgas213 on Apr 23, 2018 8:53:04 GMT
More of the same I am afraid unless there are big changes at the club
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