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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 9:46:35 GMT
People talk about us being a long way away from challenging but in truth, the difference between finishing 12th, say and 6th can be minimal. Yes, our season is petering out now, but it’s worth remembering that with just a little luck we could have taken 6 points rather than 1 from our games against Northampton and Plymouth, which would have left us 1 point off the play offs with a game in hand on Scunthorpe, and heading into the Easter period with real belief and momentum. Ultimately we haven’t quite been good enough this year but we are not far away, in my opinion. You can't really use that argument though can you! I'm sure the other teams can all point to where a 'little bit of luck' would have brought them six points instead on one somewhere along the line. The league table doesn't lie. We are where we are.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Apr 24, 2018 9:49:15 GMT
People talk about us being a long way away from challenging but in truth, the difference between finishing 12th, say and 6th can be minimal. Yes, our season is petering out now, but it’s worth remembering that with just a little luck we could have taken 6 points rather than 1 from our games against Northampton and Plymouth, which would have left us 1 point off the play offs with a game in hand on Scunthorpe, and heading into the Easter period with real belief and momentum. Ultimately we haven’t quite been good enough this year but we are not far away, in my opinion. You can't really use that argument though can you! I'm sure the other teams can all point to where a 'little bit of luck' would have brought them six points instead on one somewhere along the line. The league table doesn't lie. We are where we are. Yes, I agree. We are where we are, but my point was to illustrate that it’s not so far off being competitive as some seem to think.
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 24, 2018 10:27:39 GMT
Why afraid? We’ve just completed a solid two seasons in League 1 which is about as good as it’s got this century and is light years ahead of what we were looking at at the time of the last World Cup in 2014 when a few years stint in non league was possibly beginning. Solid progress I’d say! UTG! Can you really see "solid progress" on the pitch this season? Stagnation for me with too many players underperforming or playing above their natural level. I feel we only have 3/4 players good enough to play/compete at the higher levels of this league. Hang on! Read all of my post and the context in which I said “solid progress.” 2014 we were looking at a possible stay in non league. We got promotion in 2015 and 2016. In 2018, after two promotions we have been mid-table for two seasons and consolidated our place in league 1. I call the total of that “solid progress.” If you want to call it stagnation that’s up to you! I dont necessarily disagree about the number of players we have that can compete at the higher levels of league 1, though I’d say a couple more, perhaps 5 or 6 are good enough but to me Rovers have always been about the sum of the team itself and how we are as a team and not just how good individuals are. And let’s face it we’re Bristol Rovers not Manchester United so we have to do things differently and can’t just go out and spend a lot of money. Anyway, I stand by what I said, we have made solid progress since 2014 and with a few quality addition in the summer we stand a chance of competing seriously at the top end if DC can make those additions without losing the togetherness and comebackability of the squad. I don’t think we are too different because I appreciate that your post indicated about “...on the pitch.” I certainly meant solid progress over the past 4 years and over the 2 years in league 1. This year in particular we have “consolidated”, which is a better description of us imo than “stagnated.” UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 24, 2018 10:36:45 GMT
People talk about us being a long way away from challenging but in truth, the difference between finishing 12th, say and 6th can be minimal. Yes, our season is petering out now, but it’s worth remembering that with just a little luck we could have taken 6 points rather than 1 from our games against Northampton and Plymouth, which would have left us 1 point off the play offs with a game in hand on Scunthorpe, and heading into the Easter period with real belief and momentum. Ultimately we haven’t quite been good enough this year but we are not far away, in my opinion. You can't really use that argument though can you! I'm sure the other teams can all point to where a 'little bit of luck' would have brought them six points instead on one somewhere along the line. The league table doesn't lie. We are where we are. Yes, we are where we are and the table doesn’t lie. I’ve said it somewhere else on here that take the top 3 away and the teams between 4th and 12th are pretty close and all could point to wins we have had and could have had. In the end we weren’t good enough but neither were we a million miles away from doing well. With 2/3 quality additions this team could compete seriously for a play off place. Those places between 4th and 12th are close, fine margins separate them and had we got just a couple of wins instead of draws people would still be dreaming of 6th place. We haven’t been good enough and most of us know that but neither are we that far away that a few quality additions couldn’t solve! UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 10:38:59 GMT
You can't really use that argument though can you! I'm sure the other teams can all point to where a 'little bit of luck' would have brought them six points instead on one somewhere along the line. The league table doesn't lie. We are where we are. Yes, we are where we are and the table doesn’t lie. I’ve said it somewhere else on here that take the top 3 away and the teams between 4th and 12th are pretty close and all could point to wins we have had and could have had. In the end we weren’t good enough but neither were we a million miles away from doing well. With 2/3 quality additions this team could compete seriously for a play off place. Those places between 4th and 12th are close, fine margins separate them and had we got just a couple of wins instead of draws people would still be dreaming of 6th place. We haven’t been good enough and most of us know that but neither are we that far away that a few quality additions couldn’t solve! UTG! The problem is when DC was talking about shopping in either Waitrose, Tesco or Aldi, he ended up going to the Foodbank ! Can anyone see that situation improving?
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 24, 2018 10:47:44 GMT
Yes nobby I understand the problem of where to shop but I would say neither Sercombe nor Partington were from the food bank, although some might have been! They came from a pretty good League 1 shop. 2/3 more similar to them would be another step up. And yes, I can see that happening. Whether it gets us in the play offs is a different matter but we could seriously compete imo. UTG!
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Post by lastminutewinner on Apr 24, 2018 10:55:23 GMT
You can't really use that argument though can you! I'm sure the other teams can all point to where a 'little bit of luck' would have brought them six points instead on one somewhere along the line. The league table doesn't lie. We are where we are. Yes, I agree. We are where we are, but my point was to illustrate that it’s not so far off being competitive as some seem to think.
I agree but only because this division is pretty poor in quality overall apart from the obvious ones that will soon be in the Championship.
We will never be a top 2 team imo as we will need to spend a lot, but the play offs are up for anyone.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Apr 24, 2018 12:32:04 GMT
Yes, we are where we are and the table doesn’t lie. I’ve said it somewhere else on here that take the top 3 away and the teams between 4th and 12th are pretty close and all could point to wins we have had and could have had. In the end we weren’t good enough but neither were we a million miles away from doing well. With 2/3 quality additions this team could compete seriously for a play off place. Those places between 4th and 12th are close, fine margins separate them and had we got just a couple of wins instead of draws people would still be dreaming of 6th place. We haven’t been good enough and most of us know that but neither are we that far away that a few quality additions couldn’t solve! UTG! The problem is when DC was talking about shopping in either Waitrose, Tesco or Aldi, he ended up going to the Foodbank ! Can anyone see that situation improving? To be fair, he wouldn’t have picked up Bennett or Craig in a food bank, and both of those will be big players for us next year.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 12:52:37 GMT
The problem is when DC was talking about shopping in either Waitrose, Tesco or Aldi, he ended up going to the Foodbank ! Can anyone see that situation improving? To be fair, he wouldn’t have picked up Bennett or Craig in a food bank, and both of those will be big players for us next year. Both players were released by their clubs though. I agree Bennett looks a good signing. However, he is a player that was released by his club (for whatever reason) and it doesn't appear as though there was any competition for him. Personally, I don't think the signing of Craig has worked. It is pretty obvious he was brought in to the bolster the defence and stop us conceding so many goals, but that didn't work did it! I also think the pairing of TL and Craig is not physical enough for Div 1.
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 24, 2018 12:54:41 GMT
The problem is when DC was talking about shopping in either Waitrose, Tesco or Aldi, he ended up going to the Foodbank ! Can anyone see that situation improving? To be fair, he wouldn’t have picked up Bennett or Craig in a food bank, and both of those will be big players for us next year. Yes. Those two and LS and Joe P all good signings who have improved us. Despite losing Bodin, a couple more good signings and I would be very happy this summer. UTG!
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Apr 24, 2018 15:37:09 GMT
To be fair, he wouldn’t have picked up Bennett or Craig in a food bank, and both of those will be big players for us next year. Both players were released by their clubs though. I agree Bennett looks a good signing. However, he is a player that was released by his club (for whatever reason) and it doesn't appear as though there was any competition for him. Personally, I don't think the signing of Craig has worked. It is pretty obvious he was brought in to the bolster the defence and stop us conceding so many goals, but that didn't work did it! I also think the pairing of TL and Craig is not physical enough for Div 1. OK. Forum jury is clearly out at the moment on Craig. I’ll make a prediction. By this time next year the forum will have come down resoundingly in his favour. Injuries permitting, I’m really confident of this.
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