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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 28, 2018 23:59:47 GMT
As far as stats go, up until Craig came in, we had played 29 games and let in 45 goals at a rate of 1.55 per game. With Craig we have played 16 games and let in 21 goals at a rate of 1.4 per game. So basically he's made no difference which was exactly what I said!!
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 29, 2018 0:03:46 GMT
I can't see what if any difference Tony Craig has made at all to the defence. Still seems a weird signing to me. I'd question your football pedigree!! He'll be here next year and has sorted us out this year. We look no more solid now than we did before and we are still shipping sloppy goals.
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Post by pirate on Apr 29, 2018 0:26:37 GMT
I just watched the goal back again that we conceded and it really was a poor one to give away.
A big punt from the keeper, Lockyer gets beaten in the air, Clarke brushed aside too easily and Craig's tackle was limp at best.
How many soft goals have we given away the this season? That has to change if we are thinking about challenging for the playoffs next season.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Apr 29, 2018 1:31:00 GMT
As far as stats go, up until Craig came in, we had played 29 games and let in 45 goals at a rate of 1.55 per game. With Craig we have played 16 games and let in 21 goals at a rate of 1.4 per game. So basically he's made no difference which was exactly what I said!! Well, if you extrapolate the stats over a whole season it equates to 7 goals. It is a difference, albeit not massive. We all know that stats aren’t everything. Let’s see what happens next year, but it is certainly true that all our central defenders have made big individual mistakes at times this season and they will need to be cut out if we’re going to progress.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Apr 29, 2018 6:18:07 GMT
After a decent performance in the week, I have to admit that Nichols was very poor yesterday. It just feels like it isn't going to happen with him. Technically he is a very, very decent player but he has little else to go with that technical ability. He is too lightweight, not super quick and never really looks like scoring. I said a long time ago that Telford will go on to be the better player, you have to wonder why he hasn't had more minutes. Is Darrell trying to get him on the cheap with no competition?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 6:44:47 GMT
How often do teams score well-worked goals against us? It seems to always be scrappy from poor defending. Charlton, deflected goal. Blackburn, penalty from crap defending. Rotherham, bad mistake for first, failure to block cross for the second. Wigan poor goalkeeping. Yesterday, crap defending. Defending has been our biggest problem for 2 whole seasons now and I really don’t think the signing of Craig is the answer. It’s been fine margins though and I think we are a quality spine (centre-half, holding midfielder and a striker) away from challenging next season.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 7:27:54 GMT
As far as stats go, up until Craig came in, we had played 29 games and let in 45 goals at a rate of 1.55 per game. With Craig we have played 16 games and let in 21 goals at a rate of 1.4 per game. So basically he's made no difference which was exactly what I said!! Or, he has made a difference as shown by the stats! Or, the improvement shown in the stats is nothing to do with Craig but other factors (such as someone else's individual mistake) Or, Craig's games contained a proportionately high number against better teams so we're not comparing like with like. Or, stats can be used to support whatever argument you want them to.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 29, 2018 7:56:53 GMT
So basically he's made no difference which was exactly what I said!! Or, he has made a difference as shown by the stats! Or, the improvement shown in the stats is nothing to do with Craig but other factors (such as someone else's individual mistake) Or, Craig's games contained a proportionately high number against better teams so we're not comparing like with like. Or, stats can be used to support whatever argument you want them to. Agree regards stats. There are all number of reasons for stuff like that. I'm just going on what I see on the pitch.
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Post by Gasshole on Apr 29, 2018 8:25:06 GMT
Or, he has made a difference as shown by the stats! Or, the improvement shown in the stats is nothing to do with Craig but other factors (such as someone else's individual mistake) Or, Craig's games contained a proportionately high number against better teams so we're not comparing like with like. Or, stats can be used to support whatever argument you want them to. Agree regards stats. There are all number of reasons for stuff like that. I'm just going on what I see on the pitch. I see dead people. All the time.
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Post by markczgas on Apr 29, 2018 8:40:00 GMT
After a decent performance in the week, I have to admit that Nichols was very poor yesterday. It just feels like it isn't going to happen with him. Technically he is a very, very decent player but he has little else to go with that technical ability. He is too lightweight, not super quick and never really looks like scoring. I said a long time ago that Telford will go on to be the better player, you have to wonder why he hasn't had more minutes. Is Darrell trying to get him on the cheap with no competition? You can also add that his shooting lacks venom or subtlety too ! oh and direction cos most go wide :-(
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Post by markczgas on Apr 29, 2018 8:42:20 GMT
How often do teams score well-worked goals against us? It seems to always be scrappy from poor defending. Charlton, deflected goal. Blackburn, penalty from crap defending. Rotherham, bad mistake for first, failure to block cross for the second. Wigan poor goalkeeping. Yesterday, crap defending. Defending has been our biggest problem for 2 whole seasons now and I really don’t think the signing of Craig is the answer. It’s been fine margins though and I think we are a quality spine (centre-half, holding midfielder and a striker) away from challenging next season.That's probably true for about at least half the teams in our division then
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 29, 2018 9:12:13 GMT
As far as stats go, up until Craig came in, we had played 29 games and let in 45 goals at a rate of 1.55 per game. With Craig we have played 16 games and let in 21 goals at a rate of 1.4 per game. The 7 games prior to Craig arriving we'd let in just 5 goals, which coincided with Locks return to form, I don't see Craig has improved the stats plus he's stopping Boardbent from developing. Although perhaps what we really need is Lumley to return looking at the clean sheets Blackpool and us have achieved with him in goal.
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Post by faggotygas on Apr 29, 2018 12:34:27 GMT
After a decent performance in the week, I have to admit that Nichols was very poor yesterday. It just feels like it isn't going to happen with him. Technically he is a very, very decent player but he has little else to go with that technical ability. He is too lightweight, not super quick and never really looks like scoring. I said a long time ago that Telford will go on to be the better player, you have to wonder why he hasn't had more minutes. Is Darrell trying to get him on the cheap with no competition? Frustrating, isn't he? I watched him off the ball and he took up some great positions, but his touch when he got the ball was awful. Reminded me of myself, decent brain, crap feet!
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Apr 29, 2018 13:07:39 GMT
It's sad that it hasn't worked out for Nichols. But the fact is that he is a striker who us not scoring and that is not acceptable.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Apr 29, 2018 14:01:16 GMT
It's sad that it hasn't worked out for Nichols. But the fact is that he is a striker who us not scoring and that is not acceptable. This is true, unfortunately. Even in a poor season you would hope your striker would still chip in with 5 or 6 and make some contributions to points gained. Nicholls’ 1 league goal did break the deadlock in a win so you could say he earned us 2 points, but who were the opposition? Relegated MK Dons at home. If we get rid though, what will we get for him? 50K if we’re lucky. Interesting to see how DC and the board play it. There is of course a chance he could come good, having scored goals at this level, but you wouldn’t bank on it.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Apr 29, 2018 15:40:19 GMT
It's sad that it hasn't worked out for Nichols. But the fact is that he is a striker who us not scoring and that is not acceptable. This is true, unfortunately. Even in a poor season you would hope your striker would still chip in with 5 or 6 and make some contributions to points gained. Nicholls’ 1 league goal did break the deadlock in a win so you could say he earned us 2 points, but who were the opposition? Relegated MK Dons at home. If we get rid though, what will we get for him? 50K if we’re lucky. Interesting to see how DC and the board play it. There is of course a chance he could come good, having scored goals at this level, but you wouldn’t bank on it. Maybe our style and formation does not suit his game ? however, a natural goal scorer will always find the goals and I'm afraid Nichols is not that kind of player. We do miss Taylor
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Post by axegas on Apr 29, 2018 16:00:43 GMT
After a decent performance in the week, I have to admit that Nichols was very poor yesterday. It just feels like it isn't going to happen with him. Technically he is a very, very decent player but he has little else to go with that technical ability. He is too lightweight, not super quick and never really looks like scoring. I said a long time ago that Telford will go on to be the better player, you have to wonder why he hasn't had more minutes. Is Darrell trying to get him on the cheap with no competition? Telfords goal on Saturday reminded me of a typical Matty Taylor goal, he just knew where to be in the box at the right time to score with a poachers finish. It’s that technique which will score you goals in the division and is something we just haven’t seen from Nichols. It might be worth loaning Nichols out elsewhere to gain that trait but even then I doubt he will ever consistently score goals for us in this division, I hope I’m proved wrong but it just looks like he isn’t up to it.
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Post by socrates on Apr 29, 2018 16:25:23 GMT
This is true, unfortunately. Even in a poor season you would hope your striker would still chip in with 5 or 6 and make some contributions to points gained. Nicholls’ 1 league goal did break the deadlock in a win so you could say he earned us 2 points, but who were the opposition? Relegated MK Dons at home. If we get rid though, what will we get for him? 50K if we’re lucky. Interesting to see how DC and the board play it. There is of course a chance he could come good, having scored goals at this level, but you wouldn’t bank on it. Maybe our style and formation does not suit his game ? however, a natural goal scorer will always find the goals and I'm afraid Nichols is not that kind of player. We do miss Taylor Gaffney certainly misses him. Hasn’t been the same player since Taylor left.
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Post by mehewmagic on Apr 29, 2018 16:37:57 GMT
I get a sneaky feeling that Nichols will be converted into an attacking midfielder / in the hole type player. Takes the physicality out of the equation & means he can face towards goal rather than have his back to it.
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Post by socrates on Apr 29, 2018 16:44:52 GMT
I get a sneaky feeling that Nichols will be converted into an attacking midfielder / in the hole type player. Takes the physicality out of the equation & means he can face towards goal rather than have his back to it. He played ok there second half on Tuesday. Always seems to get bullied too easily when played as a striker. Every time he’s played recently you can see that they’d obviously done their homework and knew he is soft as sh**. In the hole playing between the lines he won’t have that big Center forward breathing down his neck. Still not keen on him though.
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