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Post by singupgas on Jul 6, 2018 10:44:47 GMT
Why does this forum become a knob waving competition, call out out people and saying "will you be there when...", "how long have you" etc etc.
To answer myself. No i wont be going to cheddar. I've supported Rovers all my life, im 27. Not as long as some, but still i see myself as much of a Rovers fan.
We are all Gasheads. No need for in fighting.
...But no, i absolutely do not want England to fail.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 10:52:22 GMT
Do we endlessly talk about past successes and greatness? There is obviously hype and hope when we head in to tournaments which gets ramped up if we progress. No nation is any different but the vast majority of the time, particularly the past 15 years, a far larger proportion of talk is very negative and constantly putting ourselves down. As I said its past successes and "perceived" greatness. Don't you think people outside of England really couldn't give two stuffs about 1966 and all that. Do you think C#£y fans see themselves as a gobby flash neighbour living on past glories. It's just a matter of perception. From my experience the English abroad earn little respect and our place in the world has been much deminished in recent years. Our rivalry with the our home country neighbours is a strange relationship born out of domination and power of the English. My point was England fans should celebrate any success but don't be surprised when other nations either don't like or respect the English in the process I'm not overly fussed about other countries performances or what they think of us and just like to watch the games as a fan with no huge bias either way. I get frustrated by the other home nations though and what has moved from a friendly (ish) rivalry to pretty near hatred towards us. Fueled by the likes of Alex Salmond and now Jimmy Frankie! i've said before that back in the 80's I would support N.Ireland and Scotland (and Wales if they'd qualified) at World Cups almost as much as England but the anti-English agenda has gradually worn me down and I now quite enjoy watching their failures and hard luck stories in qualifying.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 10:54:56 GMT
Do we endlessly talk about past successes and greatness? There is obviously hype and hope when we head in to tournaments which gets ramped up if we progress. No nation is any different but the vast majority of the time, particularly the past 15 years, a far larger proportion of talk is very negative and constantly putting ourselves down. As I said its past successes and "perceived" greatness. Don't you think people outside of England really couldn't give two stuffs about 1966 and all that. Do you think C#£y fans see themselves as a gobby flash neighbour living on past glories. It's just a matter of perception. From my experience the English abroad earn little respect and our place in the world has been much deminished in recent years. Our rivalry with the our home country neighbours is a strange relationship born out of domination and power of the English. My point was England fans should celebrate any success but don't be surprised when other nations either don't like or respect the English in the process Good post. It is about the difference between hubris and confidence. Confidence is good if warranted whereas hubris is pretty ugly and invites people to want to see it fail. If the Jocks or the Welsh thought they were going to win a world cup on the basis of beating Tunisia and Panama everyone would laugh their tits off. And rightly so! It isn't much less laughable when the English press do.
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Post by Blueside on Jul 6, 2018 11:03:12 GMT
What a really odd sentiment, there have been times when I have had no love for the WRU and the FAW but I've never wanted Wales to fail, isn't that called cutting off your nose to spite your face? For the record even I want England to win the World Cup! Like you I am Welsh, but lot's of people don't get that as I was born in Bristol but represented Wales at athletics through my fathers and all of his forefathers where welsh, well up to my great-great-great grandfather who was from near Shrewsbury, so still Welsh! I am 100% behind England and honestly think we could make the final. I really like how you use "we". We are all British. I remember being in a bar in France full of Irish (republic) for the England Germany game a few years back (The Lampard Non-goal). We were tonked 4-1 but the Irish cheered England for the full 90. Ok so they'd had a few beers by then but it made me think about how i support other teams in these championships. I really rooted for Ireland in USA 94 and Scotland in Germany 74, Don't really recall Scotland in 1978 but I do remember I was a teeny bit jealous of Wales in Euro 2016 as well! As for the British media hyping up one nation, England are the only home nation in it and it was the opther way round for the other tournaments mentioned here. BBC Newswatch a couiple of Saurdays ago was hilarious with people moaing about BBC bias towards England.
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Post by gasfred on Jul 6, 2018 11:29:04 GMT
An Enlish man wanting Enland to lose in a world cup quarter final just shows what sort of country we are becoming. I can just picture Dianne Abbot and co waving their England flags on saturday.
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Post by LJG on Jul 6, 2018 11:50:52 GMT
An Enlish man wanting Enland to lose in a world cup quarter final just shows what sort of country we are becoming. I can just picture Dianne Abbot and co waving their England flags on saturday. Jeremy has already hit peak Corbyn - refusing to praise the England squad but instead saying something like he hoped all nations would do well in the World Cup.
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Post by inee on Jul 6, 2018 12:40:23 GMT
What a strange country we live in, that people can feel like this. Nowhere else in the world! I want england to win ,however i think we will lose ,see if we get sent home it's expected nothing to feel glum over ,but if we win then we spend the next few days over the moon
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Post by baggins on Jul 6, 2018 12:40:53 GMT
Why anyone would want our National Squad to fail in the Worlds biggest football tournement is beyond me.
Come on England!!!
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Post by manorfarmgas on Jul 6, 2018 13:19:33 GMT
I'm English and try as I might I can't summon the enthusiasm that used to come so naturally when I was younger. I remember up til 2002 being massively emotionally invested in England. I then moved abroad for 7 years and lost it, never to return. I love the Gas, football and the WC but am completely indifferent to England. I know for a fact having shared this with other Gasheads that I am not alone. Maybe it's because I am at my core West Country, not English.
Whilst sympathetic to the eye rolling that all the hoopla must cause in Wales/Scotland, I have nothing against England. But some people on here are genuinely mystified by anyone who is not solidly behind England. I'm equally mystified by people who put England on the same emotional level as BRFC. Different strokes. Live and let be.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 13:23:43 GMT
Why anyone would want our National Squad to fail in the Worlds biggest football tournement is beyond me. Come on England!!! I thought the check a trade cup was biggest
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 13:58:17 GMT
I'm English and try as I might I can't summon the enthusiasm that used to come so naturally when I was younger. I remember up til 2002 being massively emotionally invested in England. I then moved abroad for 7 years and lost it, never to return. I love the Gas, football and the WC but am completely indifferent to England. I know for a fact having shared this with other Gasheads that I am not alone. Maybe it's because I am at my core West Country, not English. Whilst sympathetic to the eye rolling that all the hoopla must cause in Wales/Scotland, I have nothing against England. But some people on here are genuinely mystified by anyone who is not solidly behind England. I'm equally mystified by people who put England on the same emotional level as BRFC. Different strokes. Live and let be. Whilst I was born and grew up in Bristol I support Wales through blood and heritage and for me if I had to choose would choose Wales over BRFC. I can't speak for everyone but can totally understand why people put international football above club football- there are strict rules to be eligible for a national side so the team really has an affinity with you. In the professional era of club football the players are here today and gone tomorrow so your club does not necessarily represent the community you live in like it used to in the old days. Manchester city winning the premier league does not mean manchester produces the best footballers more that they have the money to impprt the best footballers. International football is the inverse of that.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jul 6, 2018 14:01:12 GMT
I want England to win on the same level as I want the UK to win the Eurovision.
It's nice to be better than other nations, but ultimately you expect the familiar disappointment.
The footy team is always full of overpaid, overrated players who excel at Premiership level but get found out when they go toe-to-toe against the worlds best.
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Post by baggins on Jul 6, 2018 14:05:09 GMT
Why anyone would want our National Squad to fail in the Worlds biggest football tournement is beyond me. Come on England!!! I thought the check a trade cup was biggest
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Jul 6, 2018 18:42:30 GMT
Loving the World Cup but I just want England to fail. Won’t get a good response, no doubt, but I’m being honest. Our f.a fail us lower league teams without 2nd thought and I find it really hard to support a really bad corporation that spills over and we pay the price. Imagine the snake taking that last pen (never going to happen). Be honest: would you hope he missed? I would. Wow - what a special place you must be ha... You're one of those i hope we don't go up types - cause it will be hard and we may be bottom 6 hahaha... (bet you have a prem team - Liverpool, man u, man c ..spurs...keep you happy in life ha) England & Rovers my only love in football - no matter what, I do not turn that loyal following on or off based on the what results or the FA are doing. I would watch and love Rovers on the Downs or from the streets if i had to. England no matter this tournament or some of the pony we have seen over the years get my support and passion and to point thats (football, rugby, cricket etc..) Your thought process is a typical of some gas head and it shows in a past post (England to win WC or Rovers to get promotion) WOW - The only answer to that is I WANT BOTH - and i go into every tournament or leagues season want and dreaming of just those things. Nope just Bristol Rovers in football. Somerset Ccc and England cricket are my teams.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 6, 2018 18:51:01 GMT
Trying to make sure I don't attack the posters here but I can't believe how many miserable bastards we have on here.
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Post by puregas on Jul 6, 2018 18:59:49 GMT
Blimey Batesy, you start off by saying you want England to lose, then admit to supporting Somerset.
Ffs! Are you sure you're not a shithead?
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 6, 2018 19:32:30 GMT
Blimey Batesy, you start off by saying you want England to lose, then admit to supporting Somerset. Ffs! Are you sure you're not a shithead? Lots of people do!!😉 Mind you after we’ve just beaten Gloucestershire convincingly in the 20/20 Blast perhaps he shouldn’t have said it! 😀 Always UTG!
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Post by islandgas on Jul 6, 2018 19:35:25 GMT
No, and why would you? How anyone would wish their own national team to lose is incomprehensible.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jul 6, 2018 22:00:23 GMT
Like you I am Welsh, but lot's of people don't get that as I was born in Bristol but represented Wales at athletics through my fathers and all of his forefathers where welsh, well up to my great-great-great grandfather who was from near Shrewsbury, so still Welsh! I am 100% behind England and honestly think we could make the final. I really like how you use "we". We are all British. I remember being in a bar in France full of Irish (republic) for the England Germany game a few years back (The Lampard Non-goal). We were tonked 4-1 but the Irish cheered England for the full 90. Ok so they'd had a few beers by then but it made me think about how i support other teams in these championships. I really rooted for Ireland in USA 94 and Scotland in Germany 74, Don't really recall Scotland in 1978 but I do remember I was a teeny bit jealous of Wales in Euro 2016 as well! As for the British media hyping up one nation, England are the only home nation in it and it was the opther way round for the other tournaments mentioned here. BBC Newswatch a couiple of Saurdays ago was hilarious with people moaing about BBC bias towards England. Wales losing in the semi final was great. As is the fact that Scotland's last tournament was in a different millennium.
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Post by Gasshole on Jul 6, 2018 22:02:51 GMT
It's just a coping mechanism. When we win this thing EVERYONE will be dancing in the Streets of Miserable B@stards Town. Well that's fckd it. Soz All.
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