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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 15:17:56 GMT
I wonder if the club will go digital with programmes instead. Saves printing costs of course and if they set up a subscription for it too, say for the same cost of £3. @roadman might know more. Think I seen something about his company doing the programmes now. Roadman does indeed produce the programmes for a number of Premier and FL club's.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 15:48:32 GMT
Hugely disappointed to hear this news. When my father, a Rovers fan of over 70 years, died in 2014, Keith could not have been more kind in putting something about his passing in the next programme at very short notice. My Dad loved the Gas and the club’s family values. If he was still alive he’d really struggle to understand what direction the club is now being taken in, how, and by whom. Exactly, if they are going to remove every link with Rovers past then why stop at the programme? Just re-brand the whole club as 'Filton Corporates' and have done with it. The pirate and cutlass could be replaced by a silhouette of a guy in a suit waving a redundancy notice.
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Post by smudge1 on Jul 23, 2018 15:58:30 GMT
I sometimes read things on the forum that make me think people would prefer us staying as we are. Everything the owners are doing are trying to make us a more professionally run football club with different and better financial schemes and bringing us in line with other clubs. Yes on occasions it does mean we have to lose good people who have worked very hard for our club, but it's called progress and being able to survive. Whether we like it or not we have to make our own revenue. Would people prefer us to keep people like Keith, Ian Holtby etc etc and continue to be left behind. I do agree, on occasions the way the club handle things can be improved but we never usually hear the full story. TG has been employed to improve finances and revenues and bring us up to scratch. Let him do it.
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Post by Big Jock on Jul 23, 2018 16:06:44 GMT
...and then there none.....
Thanks for yer service Keith, nice bloke but chuffkin hated his commentary if i'm honest.
Anywaes on with th new.......... lets be fair this club has needed ta be dragged into th 21st century for years and it looks at last its having a mighty kick up th jacksy by Wael & Co.
Lets hope we all look back in a few years and think how it was needed!
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jul 23, 2018 16:06:50 GMT
I sometimes read things on the forum that make me think people would prefer us staying as we are. Everything the owners are doing are trying to make us a more professionally run football club with different and better financial schemes and bringing us in line with other clubs. Yes on occasions it does mean we have to lose good people who have worked very hard for our club, but it's called progress and being able to survive. Whether we like it or not we have to make our own revenue. Would people prefer us to keep people like Keith, Ian Holtby etc etc and continue to be left behind. I do agree, on occasions the way the club handle things can be improved but we never usually hear the full story. TG has been employed to improve finances and revenues and bring us up to scratch. Let him do it. I remember some big shot at McDonald's coming out once and saying 'they told us they wanted healthier options. They lied.' They had spent a lot on trying to change the image and the menu because of the drive of their customers to become more healthy and after all that what did people really want? The same old stuff they always did. It's funny. Not related to Keith personally but it does make me wonder a little whether we are like those customers. Hate the way it is ragbag Rovers and all that but the minute anyone changes anything we are all like Whoa there! We want our Rovers back and nonsense like that.
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Post by peterparker on Jul 23, 2018 16:17:23 GMT
Not in relation to Keith’s individual case, but this is more of a general point.
Some people moan about Evolution not Revolution, but when there is a sign of actual revolution, people freak out. I assume because it is not the actual revolution they want, as the fixation is on the stadium and training ground
I hope Keith hasn't been pushed aside in the fashion suggested, due to his contributions over the years, but we are only hearing one side of the story and this is what I hate about social media sometimes.
Stories get leaked (good intentions or not), sometimes for the good, but sometimes it can cause just as much disruption whilst things may be trying to be resolved in the background. A frenzy is whipped up and people are demanding answers before there is even a story
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Post by cj on Jul 23, 2018 16:18:17 GMT
I sometimes read things on the forum that make me think people would prefer us staying as we are. Everything the owners are doing are trying to make us a more professionally run football club with different and better financial schemes and bringing us in line with other clubs. Yes on occasions it does mean we have to lose good people who have worked very hard for our club, but it's called progress and being able to survive. Whether we like it or not we have to make our own revenue. Would people prefer us to keep people like Keith, Ian Holtby etc etc and continue to be left behind. I do agree, on occasions the way the club handle things can be improved but we never usually hear the full story. TG has been employed to improve finances and revenues and bring us up to scratch. Let him do it. I think people understand that. Well I do anyway. I think the issue for a lot of people on here is how Keith was treated in the process. He has been there for over 20 years and I guess you have seen many examples where he has gone above and beyond his call of duty. He has been a great servant for the club and got the program winning awards. And instead of consulting with Keith about any possible changes they just sent him an email telling him whats happening. Don't you think Keith deserves better? So again, I can see what the club is doing and it is refreshing seeing us make changes and trying to improve everything everywhere. To me, its all positive. But the club need to go around doing it in a better fashion and with more respect because thats what upset people with how they treated Keith with this change. Sounds like Keith left and wasn't sacked and sounds like he left purely down to the treatment he received.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 16:23:07 GMT
I sometimes read things on the forum that make me think people would prefer us staying as we are. Everything the owners are doing are trying to make us a more professionally run football club with different and better financial schemes and bringing us in line with other clubs. Yes on occasions it does mean we have to lose good people who have worked very hard for our club, but it's called progress and being able to survive. Whether we like it or not we have to make our own revenue. Would people prefer us to keep people like Keith, Ian Holtby etc etc and continue to be left behind. I do agree, on occasions the way the club handle things can be improved but we never usually hear the full story. TG has been employed to improve finances and revenues and bring us up to scratch. Let him do it. I think people understand that. Well I do anyway. I think the issue for a lot of people on here is how Keith was treated in the process. He has been there for over 20 years and I guess you have seen many examples where he has gone above and beyond his call of duty. He has been a great servant for the club and got the program winning awards. And instead of consulting with Keith about any possible changes they just sent him an email telling him whats happening. Don't you think Keith deserves better? So again, I can see what the club is doing and it is refreshing seeing us make changes and trying to improve everything everywhere. To me, its all positive. But the club need to go around doing it in a better fashion and with more respect because thats what upset people with how they treated Keith with this change. Sounds like Keith left and wasn't sacked and sounds like he left purely down to the treatment he received. Can't argue with that if that's the case. It's still speculation though.
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Post by smudge1 on Jul 23, 2018 16:25:47 GMT
I think people understand that. Well I do anyway. I think the issue for a lot of people on here is how Keith was treated in the process. He has been there for over 20 years and I guess you have seen many examples where he has gone above and beyond his call of duty. He has been a great servant for the club and got the program winning awards. And instead of consulting with Keith about any possible changes they just sent him an email telling him whats happening. Don't you think Keith deserves better? So again, I can see what the club is doing and it is refreshing seeing us make changes and trying to improve everything everywhere. To me, its all positive. But the club need to go around doing it in a better fashion and with more respect because thats what upset people with how they treated Keith with this change. Sounds like Keith left and wasn't sacked and sounds like he left purely down to the treatment he received. Can't argue with that if that's the case. It's still speculation though. I agree 100%
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Post by peterparker on Jul 23, 2018 16:28:45 GMT
I think people understand that. Well I do anyway. I think the issue for a lot of people on here is how Keith was treated in the process. He has been there for over 20 years and I guess you have seen many examples where he has gone above and beyond his call of duty. He has been a great servant for the club and got the program winning awards. And instead of consulting with Keith about any possible changes they just sent him an email telling him whats happening. Don't you think Keith deserves better? So again, I can see what the club is doing and it is refreshing seeing us make changes and trying to improve everything everywhere. To me, its all positive. But the club need to go around doing it in a better fashion and with more respect because thats what upset people with how they treated Keith with this change. Sounds like Keith left and wasn't sacked and sounds like he left purely down to the treatment he received. Can't argue with that if that's the case. It's still speculation though. agree entirely.
All we have is a handful of people telling us what apparently happened and it will be repeated ad museum by people who have heard it, but don't actually know.
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Post by gasstrictband on Jul 23, 2018 16:29:19 GMT
To advertise in the new programme Only a full page advert now is allowed costing £2700.00. Absolute Madness.
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Post by matealotblue on Jul 23, 2018 16:29:38 GMT
I sometimes read things on the forum that make me think people would prefer us staying as we are. Everything the owners are doing are trying to make us a more professionally run football club with different and better financial schemes and bringing us in line with other clubs. Yes on occasions it does mean we have to lose good people who have worked very hard for our club, but it's called progress and being able to survive. Whether we like it or not we have to make our own revenue. Would people prefer us to keep people like Keith, Ian Holtby etc etc and continue to be left behind. I do agree, on occasions the way the club handle things can be improved but we never usually hear the full story. TG has been employed to improve finances and revenues and bring us up to scratch. Let him do it. I think people understand that. Well I do anyway. I think the issue for a lot of people on here is how Keith was treated in the process. He has been there for over 20 years and I guess you have seen many examples where he has gone above and beyond his call of duty. He has been a great servant for the club and got the program winning awards. And instead of consulting with Keith about any possible changes they just sent him an email telling him whats happening. Don't you think Keith deserves better? So again, I can see what the club is doing and it is refreshing seeing us make changes and trying to improve everything everywhere. To me, its all positive. But the club need to go around doing it in a better fashion and with more respect because thats what upset people with how they treated Keith with this change. Sounds like Keith left and wasn't sacked and sounds like he left purely down to the treatment he received. With all due respect....how do we know how he was treated in the process? Serious question. Neither KB or the club have made any statement on this at all. All we have to go on, as far as I am aware, is what is being said/speculated on here. Unless I am missing something.
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Post by peterparker on Jul 23, 2018 16:30:31 GMT
To advertise in the new programme Only a full page advert now is allowed costing £2700.00. Absolute Madness. are the pages sold? price might be bad, but someone somewhere must think it's worth it, if they are paying it
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Post by Big Jock on Jul 23, 2018 16:36:00 GMT
Good fact:
You can't spell advertisements without putting th semen between th tits.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jul 23, 2018 16:36:44 GMT
To advertise in the new programme Only a full page advert now is allowed costing £2700.00. Absolute Madness. Per season?
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Post by cj on Jul 23, 2018 16:40:46 GMT
If this helps (which I doubt it will), I have Keith's number and I have messaged him. Now I must stress that I don't know him personally but he gave his number out on twitter ages ago. I text him now and then during away games when I can't go. Therefore I don't feel it is right for me to ask him to clarify this and that. I did though message him saying there is a rumour going around that he has left the club and added if the rumour was true that I was gutted and wished him well for whatever he does next. I thanked him for his services over the decades and offered my appreciation for everything he has done at the club. He replied thanking me for my kind words. So he didn't deny that he had left but confirmed it by thanking me for my text. Again, I don't feel its my place to go snooping and asking him what really happened.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 16:47:54 GMT
I sometimes read things on the forum that make me think people would prefer us staying as we are. Everything the owners are doing are trying to make us a more professionally run football club with different and better financial schemes and bringing us in line with other clubs. Yes on occasions it does mean we have to lose good people who have worked very hard for our club, but it's called progress and being able to survive. Whether we like it or not we have to make our own revenue. Would people prefer us to keep people like Keith, Ian Holtby etc etc and continue to be left behind. I do agree, on occasions the way the club handle things can be improved but we never usually hear the full story. TG has been employed to improve finances and revenues and bring us up to scratch. Let him do it. I remember some big shot at McDonald's coming out once and saying 'they told us they wanted healthier options. They lied.' They had spent a lot on trying to change the image and the menu because of the drive of their customers to become more healthy and after all that what did people really want? The same old stuff they always did. It's funny. Not related to Keith personally but it does make me wonder a little whether we are like those customers. Hate the way it is ragbag Rovers and all that but the minute anyone changes anything we are all like Whoa there! We want our Rovers back and nonsense like that. People seem to be making out it is all or nothing - I would say the real skill in evolution is modernising the club but still retaining the good bits about what it was before so there is continuity and the club retains some of it's identity beyond the name, badge and the kit. I get the feeling that this is not the first and won't be the last club that TG gives the scorched earth treatment to and when he has moved on to his 3rd or 4th club from now I wonder if the fans who are left behind will be asking who Bristol Rovers really are anymore?
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Post by cj on Jul 23, 2018 16:54:21 GMT
I think people understand that. Well I do anyway. I think the issue for a lot of people on here is how Keith was treated in the process. He has been there for over 20 years and I guess you have seen many examples where he has gone above and beyond his call of duty. He has been a great servant for the club and got the program winning awards. And instead of consulting with Keith about any possible changes they just sent him an email telling him whats happening. Don't you think Keith deserves better? So again, I can see what the club is doing and it is refreshing seeing us make changes and trying to improve everything everywhere. To me, its all positive. But the club need to go around doing it in a better fashion and with more respect because thats what upset people with how they treated Keith with this change. Sounds like Keith left and wasn't sacked and sounds like he left purely down to the treatment he received. With all due respect... .how do we know how he was treated in the process? Serious question. Neither KB or the club have made any statement on this at all. All we have to go on, as far as I am aware, is what is being said/speculated on here. Unless I am missing something. We don't, like you say, all we know is what has been put on here from the likes of UTG12. But I think you misunderstood my comment. I wasn't saying how Keith was badly treated as if it was a fact. People however are basing their opinions IF it is a fact. My comment (that you highlighted) was just explaining people have an issue with how Keith was treated, purely based on what they have read on here, as if it is true. Basically I was summarising why people are upset. I dont think people are upset about changes happening. I think people are upset due to how change is happening where long serving people are treated with a lack of respect, because they are taking what has been reported here as fact.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 23, 2018 17:17:36 GMT
To advertise in the new programme Only a full page advert now is allowed costing £2700.00. Absolute Madness. I was offered better rates at the other club south of the river..........
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Post by peterhooper57 on Jul 23, 2018 17:27:51 GMT
Just a quick thought, what about the rest of the "Production Team" Keith can't be the only one doing the programme ? People like Mike Jay and Mo ? Any news on them Mike Jay said Keith resigned reluctantly and is upset that the Club took the editing of programme away from him without consultation. Can't imaging some corporate editor who produces generic programmes will do as good a job as Keith but new bosses always have to have new ideas and it gives them something to add to their CVs when they move on usually after a couple of years. If that is true, **** "evolution not revolution" corporate bull ****, that is wrong, Keith imo deserved to be treated better, all this moving forward ****. This club must be one of the slowest clubs in the country. "to you, to me"
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