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Post by Officer Barbrady on Aug 4, 2018 13:47:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 13:51:55 GMT
All we can do is make the case. If it goes tits up, then we can say "we told you" You really think they'll listen to that? There will be an excuse, there always is. Then we accept defeat then? Run off into the sunset?. Not me |
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 4, 2018 23:16:55 GMT
Well Tom Watson seems to be making a move within Labour tonight.
Not sure what it will achieve but wonder if it may lead to some sort of leadership challenge which in turn potentially could change policy on Brexit.
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Post by jaggas on Aug 5, 2018 11:55:17 GMT
Unfortunately, I don't think it will make any difference. Still, the people voted, they get what's coming to them. Poor suckers. All we can do is make the case. If it goes tits up, then we can say "we told you" You mean hope it all goes tits up.The remainers will be devastated when none of the hysterical project fear doom and gloom forecasts turn out to be reality. |
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Post by baggins on Aug 5, 2018 12:49:39 GMT
All we can do is make the case. If it goes tits up, then we can say "we told you" You mean hope it all goes tits up.The remainers will be devastated when none of the hysterical project fear doom and gloom forecasts turn out to be reality. And what will the Brexiters do when it does? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 13:35:17 GMT
You mean hope it all goes tits up.The remainers will be devastated when none of the hysterical project fear doom and gloom forecasts turn out to be reality. And what will the Brexiters do when it does? Its a question. Liam Fox, two years into travelling around starting trade negotiations, now says it's likely we will crash out with no deals, none, anywhere. So, good innit |
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Post by baggins on Aug 5, 2018 13:38:40 GMT
And what will the Brexiters do when it does? Its a question. Liam Fox, two years into travelling around starting trade negotiations, now says it's likely we will crash out with no deals, none, anywhere. So, good innit No? Really? No deals at all? But we were promised that we could stand alone, back to the Britain we know and love, a force in the trade World, Boris said so. You mean none of that might happen? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 14:15:32 GMT
Its a question. Liam Fox, two years into travelling around starting trade negotiations, now says it's likely we will crash out with no deals, none, anywhere. So, good innit No? Really? No deals at all? But we were promised that we could stand alone, back to the Britain we know and love, a force in the trade World, Boris said so. You mean none of that might happen? That what the good Dr Fox has said. |
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Post by baggins on Aug 5, 2018 14:40:44 GMT
No? Really? No deals at all? But we were promised that we could stand alone, back to the Britain we know and love, a force in the trade World, Boris said so. You mean none of that might happen? That what the good Dr Fox has said. You'll be telling me next that Burnley, Leeds, Bradford, Middlesboro voted for Brexit because they want better economic European trade and not because they want the Somalian family next door exported.
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 5, 2018 14:48:35 GMT
It wouldn't surprise me if one of the first deals we sign is with New Zealand. Cheaper imports of NZ lamb undermining the Welsh lamb market.
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 5, 2018 14:52:17 GMT
No? Really? No deals at all? But we were promised that we could stand alone, back to the Britain we know and love, a force in the trade World, Boris said so. You mean none of that might happen? That what the good Dr Fox has said. We could be in for an interesting Autumn leading up to the official last meeting with Barnier in December. Conference season is coming up and the Budget later too. I wonder what, if anything, will give. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 15:30:26 GMT
That what the good Dr Fox has said. We could be in for an interesting Autumn leading up to the official last meeting with Barnier in December. Conference season is coming up and the Budget later too. I wonder what, if anything, will give. My preference, I think it has to happen, is that if this ends up as bad as it looks it might, we need a general election. A proper one where parties can lay out the truth and reality of what faces us. A long shot in terms of them doing that, but what else can a functioning democracy do. |
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Post by e4bandrobinstubbs on Aug 5, 2018 15:55:46 GMT
Never mind about looking inward at ourselves the whole time, Europe( EU) is in a big financial, diplomatic and security mess. The reason a deal has not been struck is that the EU politicians are absolutely useless. They haven't got a clue what to do. It's not us.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 16:23:25 GMT
Never mind about looking inward at ourselves the whole time, Europe( EU) is in a big financial, diplomatic and security mess. The reason a deal has not been struck is that the EU politicians are absolutely useless. They haven't got a clue what to do. It's not us. I don't think you will be able to justify calling Germany and France as in a financial mess. In terms of diplomacy they have just struck a major deal with Japan. It also seems they have poured water on the flames of the fire instigated by Trump with his protectionism. In the meantime we shrink into irrelevance. |
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Post by jaggas on Aug 5, 2018 17:06:44 GMT
It wouldn't surprise me if one of the first deals we sign is with New Zealand. Cheaper imports of NZ lamb undermining the Welsh lamb market. We already import new Zealand lamb if you are so worried about Welsh farmers then don't buy new Zealand lamb I wouldn't buy it as it is halal. |
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Post by jaggas on Aug 5, 2018 17:09:54 GMT
Never mind about looking inward at ourselves the whole time, Europe( EU) is in a big financial, diplomatic and security mess. The reason a deal has not been struck is that the EU politicians are absolutely useless. They haven't got a clue what to do. It's not us. I don't think you will be able to justify calling Germany and France as in a financial mess. In terms of diplomacy they have just struck a major deal with Japan. It also seems they have poured water on the flames of the fire instigated by Trump with his protectionism. In the meantime we shrink into irrelevance. They didn't pour fire on it... They sent the unelected water head Junker over to give in to Trumps demands. |
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Post by jaggas on Aug 5, 2018 17:12:39 GMT
We could be in for an interesting Autumn leading up to the official last meeting with Barnier in December. Conference season is coming up and the Budget later too. I wonder what, if anything, will give. My preference, I think it has to happen, is that if this ends up as bad as it looks it might, we need a general election. A proper one where parties can lay out the truth and reality of what faces us. A long shot in terms of them doing that, but what else can a functioning democracy do. So ignore the functioning democracy that gave the people a vote and the people voted leave? Let's use the EU rule and keep voting until the europhiles get the result they want.. For about the fifth time now can any of you pro EU lot who hate this country and are hoping it fails outside the EU make an argument for how the CAP or the CFP benefits the UK? |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 5, 2018 17:36:37 GMT
My preference, I think it has to happen, is that if this ends up as bad as it looks it might, we need a general election. A proper one where parties can lay out the truth and reality of what faces us. A long shot in terms of them doing that, but what else can a functioning democracy do. So ignore the functioning democracy that gave the people a vote and the people voted leave? Let's use the EU rule and keep voting until the europhiles get the result they want.. For about the fifth time now can any of you pro EU lot who hate this country and are hoping it fails outside the EU make an argument for how the CAP or the CFP benefits the UK? Oh just f**k off you horrible racist lady garden. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 17:39:37 GMT
So ignore the functioning democracy that gave the people a vote and the people voted leave? Let's use the EU rule and keep voting until the europhiles get the result they want.. For about the fifth time now can any of you pro EU lot who hate this country and are hoping it fails outside the EU make an argument for how the CAP or the CFP benefits the UK? Oh just f**k off you horrible racist lady garden. Hugo Remember your own wise words. Don't get drawn in by extremists. Hope you are enjoying your day. |
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Post by jaggas on Aug 5, 2018 18:06:06 GMT
So ignore the functioning democracy that gave the people a vote and the people voted leave? Let's use the EU rule and keep voting until the europhiles get the result they want.. For about the fifth time now can any of you pro EU lot who hate this country and are hoping it fails outside the EU make an argument for how the CAP or the CFP benefits the UK? Oh just f**k off you horrible racist lady garden. No surprise there.....No post of mine has been racist but climb up on your high horse let yourself down and make yourself look like a right c*nt in the process. |
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