Brexit - The Final Reckoning

But Nobby, political and economic philosophy is not born on a daily basis.
It's a bit like religion, the fanatics adhere to the basic text, not allowing for current day interpretation. Just like Jacob Reese-Mogg. Looking at what his father wrote you can see the line.

No, no, no and no again! You cannot hold anyone responsible for something their Father's said or believed. What utter nonsense Oldie !

No, you are not 'pointing out' anything. It is just your personal opinion.

Your original post just showed the name "Rees-Mogg" and many looking at that would just assume it was Jacob Rees-Mogg, and not his Father. Your post did not mention this, and therefore it was mis-leading! Yet you moan about fake news and being mis-led by the Leave Campaign ! You are just as guilty as anyone !

Ah. I made the mistake that people can read. It clearly says his father's name on the top of the page.

Yes I was right.
It's called the Open Skies Treaty.

Just another Brexit scare story that is complete and utter tosh.

Found this article by Trevor Kavanagh on twitter earlier and he sums it up perfectly..



IT is truly shocking to watch our two major political parties disintegrating before our eyes.

The Tories are tearing themselves apart over an irreversible democratic vote to leave the European Union. Party members are in open revolt and Ukip are circling like sharks.


We're on brink of political anarchy — we need a clean Brexit to stop EU vultures
Labour, meanwhile, has been dragged into a vicious civil war by a racist rabble bent on purging the party of all the people, like Frank Field, who make it worth voting for.

Yet as things stand, it is Jeremy Corbyn’s Marxists who would storm to victory in a general election, bringing with them economic chaos, instability and, as night follows day, mass unemployment.

What did we do to deserve this, Theresa May?

How does this great nation find itself on the brink of political anarchy, paralysis and a Channel blockade on food and medicine?



The answer is appalling leadership, dithering diplomacy . . . and a quite incredible failure to speak to the people.

So, a round of applause for EU bully-boy Michel Barnier and unelected Brussels puppet master Martin Selmayr for opening our eyes in time.

Without their breathtaking arrogance, Britain might have sleep-walked into a humiliating deal which left us half-in, half-out — and paying through the nose for the privilege.

Now everyone, including our EU allies, can see Barnier has gone too far by rudely rubbishing Mrs May’s pleas for peace in our time and insisting we still cough up a £39billion ransom.

Italian deputy PM Matteo Salvini spoke more clearly for Britain than Mrs May herself when he urged her to stand up to Brussels or walk away.

“My experience in the European parliament tells me you either impose yourself or they swindle you,” says Salvini.

His sentiments are echoed by other EU leaders bruised by the Brussels jackboot.

Privately, many would like to see Barnier and Selmayr given a poke on the nose.


All the more disappointing that Ireland, one of those victims, cosies up to Barnier against the country that bailed them out after the 2008 crash.

Donald Trump showed how it’s done, with sozzled EU chief Jean-Claude Juncker lurching to Washington on hands and knees for a deal on tariffs.

Yet Britain does more trade than America with the EU.

While Mrs May dithers, Chancellor Phil Hammond deserves a special place somewhere for leaving us dangerously in the lurch.

Thanks to him we are running out of time with virtually nothing in place to soften a crash landing.


The mood in Britain has hardened dramatically against Brussels since the “turd- polishing” Chequers summit.

Ministers, MPs and even Mrs May’s own local party fear she has already surrendered too much.

It is now too late for the traditional EU stitch-up, with Brussels giving an inch and taking a mile. Forget about a second referendum.

Leave campaign mastermind Dominic Cummings is right to warn Brexit would win an even bigger majority in the current atmosphere of rank betrayal.


Remainers bleat about Brexit dividing the nation for generations to come. In fact, the wounds can ONLY be healed by a successful, clean-cut Brexit.

We will NOT sink back into the Dark Ages, cut off from the world, adrift in the North Sea with no friends.

More important, a successful Brexit is the ONLY way the Tories will beat off the threat from Labour and Ukip.Under a bolder, more dynamic leader — sooner rather than later — Britain will re-establish itself as a flourishing, tax-competitive trading nation.

I don't disagree with a lot of that now we are in this situation.

The Tories are killing themselves and Labour are being overrun by bonkers far lefties who don't know the actual meaning of being a Liberal.

Politics in this country is down the pan. Perfect for an extremist group to take power.

I'm not stirring sh**, but the mad frenzy and divisive hatred is not dissimilar to 30s Germany.

I'm not suggesting things will get that bad, but the far right (UKIP/Britain First etc) and the far Left (Corbynistas and SJWs) must be rubbing their hands with glee as any normal voter (both Red and Blue) look on in despair.

Yeah, a bit over dramatic I know but the point still stands that unless the big 2 get their houses in order they are in danger of leaving a void that can and will be filled with more extreme politicians.