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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 14:41:57 GMT
It is pretty easy to find shedloads of money if needed. The 39 billion to the EU could probably be cut down to six or seven billion. The figure of 39 billion was just plucked out of the air without any justification. The EU claim that because they are now a legal entity after the signing of the Lisbon Treaty, that the UK has no claim on any EU Assets. It is therefore obvious that if the UK has to claim on the assets, then the UK have no responsibility towards EU Liabilities. HS2 is going to cost over 50 billion. Scrap that and spend the money elsewhere. The Foreign Aid Budget is currently something like 14 billion. Cut that to 4 billion and you have another 10 billion a year to spend.
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Post by peterparker on Jul 1, 2019 14:47:20 GMT
It is pretty easy to find shedloads of money if needed. The 39 billion to the EU could probably be cut down to six or seven billion. The figure of 39 billion was just plucked out of the air without any justification. The EU claim that because they are now a legal entity after the signing of the Lisbon Treaty, that the UK has no claim on any EU Assets. It is therefore obvious that if the UK has to claim on the assets, then the UK have no responsibility towards EU Liabilities. HS2 is going to cost over 50 billion. Scrap that and spend the money elsewhere. The Foreign Aid Budget is currently something like 14 billion. Cut that to 4 billion and you have another 10 billion a year to spend. and that's just off the top of my head ! Even Nigel only wants to cut the foreign aid budget down to 7
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 15:00:26 GMT
It is pretty easy to find shedloads of money if needed. The 39 billion to the EU could probably be cut down to six or seven billion. The figure of 39 billion was just plucked out of the air without any justification. The EU claim that because they are now a legal entity after the signing of the Lisbon Treaty, that the UK has no claim on any EU Assets. It is therefore obvious that if the UK has to claim on the assets, then the UK have no responsibility towards EU Liabilities. HS2 is going to cost over 50 billion. Scrap that and spend the money elsewhere. The Foreign Aid Budget is currently something like 14 billion. Cut that to 4 billion and you have another 10 billion a year to spend. and that's just off the top of my head ! Even Nigel only wants to cut the foreign aid budget down to 7 Seven or four? There is the potential to free up between seven and ten billion quid right there, and still have a lot of cash to hand out.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 15:27:23 GMT
It is pretty easy to find shedloads of money if needed. The 39 billion to the EU could probably be cut down to six or seven billion. The figure of 39 billion was just plucked out of the air without any justification. The EU claim that because they are now a legal entity after the signing of the Lisbon Treaty, that the UK has no claim on any EU Assets. It is therefore obvious that if the UK has to claim on the assets, then the UK have no responsibility towards EU Liabilities. HS2 is going to cost over 50 billion. Scrap that and spend the money elsewhere. The Foreign Aid Budget is currently something like 14 billion. Cut that to 4 billion and you have another 10 billion a year to spend. and that's just off the top of my head ! Even Nigel only wants to cut the foreign aid budget down to 7 If we are heading for financial Armageddon as some on here think perhaps we should be cutting it to zero. Charity begins at home.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 1, 2019 15:29:38 GMT
Even Nigel only wants to cut the foreign aid budget down to 7 If we are heading for financial Armageddon as some on here think perhaps we should be cutting it to zero. Charity begins at home. It is written in law.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 15:35:10 GMT
You really couldn't make it up, could you? To be fair, he does lead by example on the making it up bit😀 Ha ha. So true.😂😂😂
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 15:36:27 GMT
If we are heading for financial Armageddon as some on here think perhaps we should be cutting it to zero. Charity begins at home. It is written in law. Ooops.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 15:39:10 GMT
It is pretty easy to find shedloads of money if needed. The 39 billion to the EU could probably be cut down to six or seven billion. The figure of 39 billion was just plucked out of the air without any justification. The EU claim that because they are now a legal entity after the signing of the Lisbon Treaty, that the UK has no claim on any EU Assets. It is therefore obvious that if the UK has to claim on the assets, then the UK have no responsibility towards EU Liabilities. HS2 is going to cost over 50 billion. Scrap that and spend the money elsewhere. The Foreign Aid Budget is currently something like 14 billion. Cut that to 4 billion and you have another 10 billion a year to spend. and that's just off the top of my head ! Even if you are right, the £39B is not a one year total. Its amortised over a period (20 I think) These promises and their costs, are per year.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 15:39:50 GMT
If we are heading for financial Armageddon as some on here think perhaps we should be cutting it to zero. Charity begins at home. It is written in law. So was leaving the EU on March 29th ! Just saying.....
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Post by peterparker on Jul 1, 2019 15:41:31 GMT
If we are heading for financial Armageddon as some on here think perhaps we should be cutting it to zero. Charity begins at home. It is written in law.
I feel we must also point out that it was the coallition Government that did this in 2015, based on a UN suggested target.
Bloody UN, taking away our Sov... oh
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 15:41:43 GMT
It is pretty easy to find shedloads of money if needed. The 39 billion to the EU could probably be cut down to six or seven billion. The figure of 39 billion was just plucked out of the air without any justification. The EU claim that because they are now a legal entity after the signing of the Lisbon Treaty, that the UK has no claim on any EU Assets. It is therefore obvious that if the UK has to claim on the assets, then the UK have no responsibility towards EU Liabilities. HS2 is going to cost over 50 billion. Scrap that and spend the money elsewhere. The Foreign Aid Budget is currently something like 14 billion. Cut that to 4 billion and you have another 10 billion a year to spend. and that's just off the top of my head ! Even if you are right, the £39B is not a one year total. Its amortised over a period (20 I think) These promises and their costs, are per year. and you haven't read the bits in the WA where there are future costs to be paid, to be decided by the EU? Oh, there is also the 20 billion a year we pay to the EU that can be spent elsewhere.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 1, 2019 15:45:33 GMT
So was leaving the EU on March 29th ! Just saying..... What? You mean the law can be changed, parliament is not bound by a previous parliament's decisions and manifesto pledges? I guess those pesky MPs didn't realise what they were voting for. 😎
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Post by peterparker on Jul 1, 2019 15:50:45 GMT
So was leaving the EU on March 29th ! Just saying..... What? You mean the law can be changed, parliament is not bound by a previous parliament's decisions and manifesto pledges? I guess those pesky MPs didn't realise what they were voting for. 😎 or, people can even change their minds
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 16:58:00 GMT
You Remainer guys must be really quite confused right now. A few weeks back, when I mentioned getting cheaper meat from South America, you all flew into an outrage about how it would decimate the British Farmer's!
Now the EU has signed a deal with SA for cheap meat, where has your outrage gone? Not a peep?
C'mon Oldie, I bet you don't know which way to turn on this one!
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 1, 2019 17:16:47 GMT
You Remainer guys must be really quite confused right now. A few weeks back, when I mentioned getting cheaper meat from South America, you all flew into an outrage about how it would decimate the British Farmer's! Now the EU has signed a deal with SA for cheap meat, where has your outrage gone? Not a peep? C'mon Oldie, I bet you don't know which way to turn on this one! You do appreciate the difference between this deal and a WTO Brexit, don't you?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 17:25:15 GMT
You Remainer guys must be really quite confused right now. A few weeks back, when I mentioned getting cheaper meat from South America, you all flew into an outrage about how it would decimate the British Farmer's! Now the EU has signed a deal with SA for cheap meat, where has your outrage gone? Not a peep? C'mon Oldie, I bet you don't know which way to turn on this one! You do appreciate the difference between this deal and a WTO Brexit, don't you? Uh, yep.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 1, 2019 17:33:41 GMT
You do appreciate the difference between this deal and a WTO Brexit, don't you? Uh, yep. Good, then we both know why the two are not comparable and your question is a false one. 😉
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Post by peterparker on Jul 1, 2019 17:43:38 GMT
You Remainer guys must be really quite confused right now. A few weeks back, when I mentioned getting cheaper meat from South America, you all flew into an outrage about how it would decimate the British Farmer's! Now the EU has signed a deal with SA for cheap meat, where has your outrage gone? Not a peep? C'mon Oldie, I bet you don't know which way to turn on this one! And i pointed out earlier that the deal did not mean an increase in the quota of meat imports, but a re-apportionment of it
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 17:48:24 GMT
You Remainer guys must be really quite confused right now. A few weeks back, when I mentioned getting cheaper meat from South America, you all flew into an outrage about how it would decimate the British Farmer's! Now the EU has signed a deal with SA for cheap meat, where has your outrage gone? Not a peep? C'mon Oldie, I bet you don't know which way to turn on this one! And i pointed out earlier that the deal did not mean an increase in the quota of meat imports, but a re-apportionment of it No, that was the deal with the USA. This is with Mercosur.
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Post by peterparker on Jul 1, 2019 18:00:47 GMT
And i pointed out earlier that the deal did not mean an increase in the quota of meat imports, but a re-apportionment of it No, that was the deal with the USA. This is with Mercosur. Sorry US get a bigger share or meat quota. So a trade deal done with mercosur. So still no evidence that we are we are going to be flooded with cheap meat then nobby
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