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Post by oldgas on Dec 6, 2020 14:39:06 GMT
You clearly don’t understand my point. So I will repeat one more time. If we had still been fully in the EUwe would not have been allowed to licence the vaccine off our own bat.
You know it, I know it, the whole country knows it.
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Post by axegas on Dec 6, 2020 15:17:42 GMT
You clearly don’t understand my point. So I will repeat one more time. If we had still been fully in the EUwe would not have been allowed to licence the vaccine off our own bat. You know it, I know it, the whole country knows it. And you don’t clearly understand the fact that getting the vaccine a week or two early in no shape or form makes up for the loss of 3.5% of the economy and loss of citizens rights everyone in the UK will have to endure for years afterwards because of Brexit. |
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Post by axegas on Dec 6, 2020 15:24:19 GMT
But hey lets celebrate a trade deal with North Macedonia because its not like accession negotiations to let them join the EU have already begun, ruling the agreement pointless in a few years anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2020 18:30:53 GMT
You clearly don’t understand my point. So I will repeat one more time. If we had still been fully in the EUwe would not have been allowed to licence the vaccine off our own bat. You know it, I know it, the whole country knows it. Quote the rule or line in the Treaty that states that the UK cannot, could not, approve the use of vaccines or medicines itself.? No? These are the facts Under European law a vaccine must be authorised by the EMA, but individual countries can use an emergency procedure that allows them to distribute a vaccine for temporary use in their domestic market. Britain is still subject to those EU rules during the post-Brexit transition period which runs until the end of the year. The UK's own medicines regulator, the MHRA, confirmed this in a statement last month . So we could authorise for emergency use and we did, always could have done. Next. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 6, 2020 19:03:30 GMT
I wouldn't get overly worried by Oldgas' understanding of the vaccine and EU rules, he knows but likes to wind up the rest of us.
It also deflects from the potential car crash coming up shortly.
Same with the countdown posts, just a wum.
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Post by oldgas on Dec 6, 2020 20:11:02 GMT
You clearly don’t understand my point. So I will repeat one more time. If we had still been fully in the EUwe would not have been allowed to licence the vaccine off our own bat. You know it, I know it, the whole country knows it. Quote the rule or line in the Treaty that states that the UK cannot, could not, approve the use of vaccines or medicines itself.? No? These are the facts Under European law a vaccine must be authorised by the EMA, but individual countries can use an emergency procedure that allows them to distribute a vaccine for temporary use in their domestic market. Britain is still subject to those EU rules during the post-Brexit transition period which runs until the end of the year. The UK's own medicines regulator, the MHRA, confirmed this in a statement last month . So we could authorise for emergency use and we did, always could have done. Next. So why haven't France, Germany , Italy etc etc not licenced it on their own account? Anything to do with being tied to the EMA by any chance? |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 6, 2020 20:17:10 GMT
You clearly don’t understand my point. So I will repeat one more time. If we had still been fully in the EUwe would not have been allowed to licence the vaccine off our own bat. You know it, I know it, the whole country knows it. And you don’t clearly understand the fact that getting the vaccine a week or two early in no shape or form makes up for the loss of 3.5% of the economy and loss of citizens rights everyone in the UK will have to endure for years afterwards because of Brexit. You hoping Biden punishes us for daring to vote for BREXIT and acting like a sovereign nation? |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 6, 2020 20:34:49 GMT
I wouldn't get overly worried by Oldgas' understanding if the vaccine and EU rules, he knows but likes to wind up the rest of us. It also deflects from the potential car crash coming up shortly. Same with the countdown posts, just a wum. Agreed. Bit of a waste of time. Fairly sure he would disappear if ignored. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2020 20:55:39 GMT
Quote the rule or line in the Treaty that states that the UK cannot, could not, approve the use of vaccines or medicines itself.? No? These are the facts Under European law a vaccine must be authorised by the EMA, but individual countries can use an emergency procedure that allows them to distribute a vaccine for temporary use in their domestic market. Britain is still subject to those EU rules during the post-Brexit transition period which runs until the end of the year. The UK's own medicines regulator, the MHRA, confirmed this in a statement last month . So we could authorise for emergency use and we did, always could have done. Next. So why haven't France, Germany , Italy etc etc not licenced it on their own account? Anything to do with being tied to the EMA by any chance? Nope you numb nut. The choice is theirs. They can if they want to. Now jog on. Try and find a topic you actually know something about. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2020 20:57:24 GMT
I wouldn't get overly worried by Oldgas' understanding if the vaccine and EU rules, he knows but likes to wind up the rest of us. It also deflects from the potential car crash coming up shortly. Same with the countdown posts, just a wum. Agreed. Bit of a waste of time. Fairly sure he would disappear if ignored. Yes, suggested that a while back. But I disagree with Stuart, he doesn't know anything, he just regurgitates what he reads in the crap press. |
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Post by Gassy on Dec 6, 2020 21:11:09 GMT
Agreed. Bit of a waste of time. Fairly sure he would disappear if ignored. Yes, suggested that a while back. But I disagree with Stuart, he doesn't know anything, he just regurgitates what he reads in the crap press. I think Stuart is giving too much credit to him tbh. The scary part is he actually believes it. |
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Post by francegas on Dec 6, 2020 21:17:26 GMT
Agreed. Bit of a waste of time. Fairly sure he would disappear if ignored. Yes, suggested that a while back. But I disagree with Stuart, he doesn't know anything, he just regurgitates what he reads in the crap press. Whereas everything reported in the Independent and the Guardian is 100% factually correct ?? |
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Post by Gassy on Dec 6, 2020 21:25:56 GMT
Yes, suggested that a while back. But I disagree with Stuart, he doesn't know anything, he just regurgitates what he reads in the crap press. Whereas everything reported in the Independent and the Guardian is 100% factually correct ?? Probably not. But that isn’t the point. If Oldie was to post something he read and you’d come back with actual facts and evidence proving that wrong, then Oldie should concede the point. What has happened is OldGas can’t accept that his opinion isn’t fact, and that even the chief executive of the MHRA is wrong, whilst he is living in ‘the real world’. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 6, 2020 21:30:00 GMT
Yes, suggested that a while back. But I disagree with Stuart, he doesn't know anything, he just regurgitates what he reads in the crap press. I think Stuart is giving too much credit to him tbh. The scary part is he actually believes it. Okay, let's let Oldgas decide who's right. Oldgas, are you (i) ill informed or (ii) know you are wrong but just trying to get a rise? 😇 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2020 21:53:30 GMT
Yes, suggested that a while back. But I disagree with Stuart, he doesn't know anything, he just regurgitates what he reads in the crap press. Whereas everything reported in the Independent and the Guardian is 100% factually correct ?? Where have I claimed that France? Purely from a personal perspective I read as widely as I can. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2020 21:54:46 GMT
I think Stuart is giving too much credit to him tbh. The scary part is he actually believes it. Okay, let's let Oldgas decide who's right. Oldgas, are you (i) ill informed or (ii) know you are wrong but just trying to get a rise? 😇 Or (iii) Thick as two short planks |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 6, 2020 22:17:52 GMT
Possible compromise on fishing. "Britain and the EU have made "significant progress" in the Brexit negotiations on the rights of European fleets to fish in UK waters, two EU sources have told Sky News. They added there is now a "landing zone" which involves a phased introduction and also specific quotas for different species. However, they said this has not been finalised. A UK government source has told Sky News there has been "no breakthrough on fishing", adding: "Nothing new has been achieved today." Sky's Europe correspondent Adam Parsons said: "What the EU sources are saying is that fishing is no longer their big concern - they think that can be done." news.sky.com/story/brexit-major-breakthrough-in-talks-over-fishing-rights-during-trade-negotiations-12153801So really the level playing fields issue to resolve. We all know that when it comes to Conservatives and playing fields, they are things to build upon. 🤭 |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 7, 2020 9:08:33 GMT
James (not so) Cleverley claiming the “oven ready deal” was actually the withdrawal agreement .
More revisionary bullshit. There’s going to be so much more of this rubbish they’re going to spout in the coming months.
When its a clusterfuck of shambles obvs this will all be the fault of those remoaners and the nasty EU..... and absolutely nothing to do with the Tories.
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Post by peterparker on Dec 7, 2020 9:17:45 GMT
James (not so) Cleverley claiming the “oven ready deal” was actually the withdrawal agreement . More revisionary bullshit. There’s going to be so much more of this rubbish they’re going to spout in the coming months. When its a clusterfuck of shambles obvs this will all be the fault of those remoaners and the nasty EU..... and absolutely nothing to do with the Tories. Well actually he is correct in that the Oven ready deal is the withdrawal agreement (The one they now don't like part of) It's just they were trying to sell it as something it wasn't. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 7, 2020 9:25:08 GMT
James (not so) Cleverley claiming the “oven ready deal” was actually the withdrawal agreement . More revisionary bullshit. There’s going to be so much more of this rubbish they’re going to spout in the coming months. When its a clusterfuck of shambles obvs this will all be the fault of those remoaners and the nasty EU..... and absolutely nothing to do with the Tories. Well actually he is correct in that the Oven ready deal is the withdrawal agreement (The one they now don't like part of) It's just they were trying to sell it as something it wasn't. It wasn’t oven ready if they had to change it . |
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