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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2020 9:43:04 GMT
Well actually he is correct in that the Oven ready deal is the withdrawal agreement (The one they now don't like part of) It's just they were trying to sell it as something it wasn't. It wasn’t oven ready if they had to change it . Nice try, these politicians are highly trained privately educated Ubermensch, they will never be wrong, it is not possible. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 7, 2020 16:03:47 GMT
Gov statement: they’re prepared to drop clauses from the internal market bill .
The climb down has started.
Who’d of guessed !
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Post by Gassy on Dec 7, 2020 17:55:41 GMT
Gov statement: they’re prepared to drop clauses from the internal market bill . The climb down has started. Who’d of guessed ! Tbf here, like with Macron - it seems like it's just negotiation, or rather I hope it is/was. A bit dirty tbf, but if it works then I'll applaud it - however unethical it may be. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 7, 2020 18:16:12 GMT
Gov statement: they’re prepared to drop clauses from the internal market bill . The climb down has started. Who’d of guessed ! Tbf here, like with Macron - it seems like it's just negotiation, or rather I hope it is/was. A bit dirty tbf, but if it works then I'll applaud it - however unethical it may be. Just damaged us and ruined our reputation for fair play . Another miscalculation by Boris and his band of numpties . |
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Post by peterparker on Dec 7, 2020 19:35:30 GMT
Tbf here, like with Macron - it seems like it's just negotiation, or rather I hope it is/was. A bit dirty tbf, but if it works then I'll applaud it - however unethical it may be. Just damaged us and ruined our reputation for fair play . Another miscalculation by Boris and his band of numpties . What has allegedly been said is they will drop certain clauses of the internal market bill if a deal is agreed Seems a bold and risky negotiating strategy Why would that 'scare' The EU into a deal seeing as everyone admits the bill would break international law. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 7, 2020 20:22:00 GMT
Just damaged us and ruined our reputation for fair play . Another miscalculation by Boris and his band of numpties . What has allegedly been said is they will drop certain clauses of the internal market bill if a deal is agreed Seems a bold and risky negotiating strategy Why would that 'scare' The EU into a deal seeing as everyone admits the bill would break international law. It wouldn’t but it’s a way of showing they’re not complete & utter knobs ! |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 7, 2020 20:28:38 GMT
Just damaged us and ruined our reputation for fair play . Another miscalculation by Boris and his band of numpties . What has allegedly been said is they will drop certain clauses of the internal market bill if a deal is agreed Seems a bold and risky negotiating strategy Why would that 'scare' The EU into a deal seeing as everyone admits the bill would break international law. The clauses would be irrelevant anyway if a trade deal is agreed. It's not really offering anything new except timings/sequencing. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 7, 2020 20:53:14 GMT
Hang on, as the Lords blocked the IM Bill and by convention don't taxation bills, is this a ruse?
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Post by yattongas on Dec 7, 2020 23:32:18 GMT
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Post by oldgas on Dec 8, 2020 8:46:54 GMT
Tbf here, like with Macron - it seems like it's just negotiation, or rather I hope it is/was. A bit dirty tbf, but if it works then I'll applaud it - however unethical it may be. Just damaged us and ruined our reputation for fair play . Another miscalculation by Boris and his band of numpties . What's the point of having a reputation for fair play if others take advantage and play dirty? Its about time this country behaved in the same way as the ethical EU. Who's to say those clauses were inserted so we had something to offer if it all came down to the wire? Inserting those clauses caused the EU to have a head fit. If nothing else it served to wind them up and waste money on preparing legal challenges. 23 days to Feedom Day. Rejoice! |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 8, 2020 8:51:10 GMT
It wasn’t oven ready if they had to change it . Nice try, these politicians are highly trained privately educated Ubermensch, they will never be wrong, it is not possible. What advantage do you think you hold over these highly trained etc people? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2020 9:18:19 GMT
Nice try, these politicians are highly trained privately educated Ubermensch, they will never be wrong, it is not possible. What advantage do you think you hold over these highly trained etc people? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2020 9:42:02 GMT
Nice try, these politicians are highly trained privately educated Ubermensch, they will never be wrong, it is not possible. What advantage do you think you hold over these highly trained etc people? Well personally, I grew up in a deprived area and went to well below average state schools. I'd reckon more people left my secondary school illiterate than when went to university for example. I wasn't being sarcastic, the most intelligent persons in our society end up in positions of power via natural selection - by the grace of God - attendimg our finest private schools. Mere serfs should know their place. I'm now a believer that the elite poilicians have all of our best interests at heart, and exist only to serve the BRITISH people. 🇬🇧 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2020 9:45:07 GMT
What advantage do you think you hold over these highly trained etc people? Well personally, I grew up in a deprived area and went to well below average state schools. I'd reckon more people left my secondary school illiterate than when went to university for example. I wasn't being sarcastic, the most intelligent persons in our society end up in positions of power via natural selection - by the grace of God - attendimg our finest private schools. Mere serfs should know their place. I'm now a believer that the elite poilicians have all of our best interests at heart, and exist only to serve the BRITISH people. 🇬🇧 Completely disagree with almost everything you have said in that post. |
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Post by Gassy on Dec 8, 2020 10:17:54 GMT
I think Stuart is giving too much credit to him tbh. The scary part is he actually believes it. Okay, let's let Oldgas decide who's right. Oldgas, are you (i) ill informed or (ii) know you are wrong but just trying to get a rise? 😇 Lol no response OldGas? What a surprise! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2020 10:27:05 GMT
Okay, let's let Oldgas decide who's right. Oldgas, are you (i) ill informed or (ii) know you are wrong but just trying to get a rise? 😇 Lol no response OldGas? What a surprise! Probably not many would come on a public forum and say " yes, I am an idiot" But silence says it for him |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 8, 2020 10:37:36 GMT
Lol no response OldGas? What a surprise! Probably not many would come on a public forum and say " yes, I am an idiot" But silence says it for him I’ll quite happily admit I’m an idiot 🤗 |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 8, 2020 11:31:37 GMT
Summary from Robert Peston, all down to Boris. "But Johnson has apparently decided no post-Brexit free trade deal is worth the name if it is not backed by the majority of Tory MP members of the European Research Group - perhaps because without their unseating of Theresa May and backing for him, he would not be in his job today. What I don't know is whether he understands the weighty significance of sticking to that position. Because if he continues to press the EU for a deal that would win the universal acclaim of the MPs of the European Research Group, the UK will be leaving the transition at one second after midnight on December 31 without a deal." www.itv.com/news/2020-12-07/brexit-deal-or-no-deal-is-now-a-simple-personal-choice-for-boris-johnson |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 8, 2020 11:33:09 GMT
Okay, let's let Oldgas decide who's right. Oldgas, are you (i) ill informed or (ii) know you are wrong but just trying to get a rise? 😇 Lol no response OldGas? What a surprise! Fair enough, Oldgas you've let me down. 😪 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2020 11:36:31 GMT
Well personally, I grew up in a deprived area and went to well below average state schools. I'd reckon more people left my secondary school illiterate than when went to university for example. I wasn't being sarcastic, the most intelligent persons in our society end up in positions of power via natural selection - by the grace of God - attendimg our finest private schools. Mere serfs should know their place. I'm now a believer that the elite poilicians have all of our best interests at heart, and exist only to serve the BRITISH people. 🇬🇧 Completely disagree with almost everything you have said in that post. Thats because you aren't a sniveling class traitor, you enjoy your empathy, I'll wallow in apathy thanks. |
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