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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 13:13:02 GMT
Phew...thank goodness for that. You have put my mind at rest.😀. I thought it was something to do with the Todger Test..... Jack Nicklaus’ granddaughter has just married a chap with the first name Todger!!! Yeah but... Imagine if the guy was called Eric... How embarrassing would that be? I mean, Eric...ffs |
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Post by peterparker on Dec 24, 2020 13:21:23 GMT
Nicola not happy
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Post by oldgas on Dec 24, 2020 14:35:27 GMT
Remainers now into desperately trying to find anything to attack a deal hat hasn’t even been published yet. I asked Mr Snowflake to describe how Boris had completely buckled over fishing and other stuff, and to itemise what other stuff is. He's obviously still consulting Mystic Meg, his crystal ball and his Tarot cards for an answer. Come on Mr. Expert, you’ve had plenty to say up to now, why so quiet? I have just quoted the NFU. They are happy they can export, but is questioning the cost and who is paying for it? I appreciate that. Perhaps the head of the NFU should consider we will no longer be part of the CAP. Something created by he French to protect inefficient French farmers. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 24, 2020 14:39:46 GMT
Head of the National Farmers' Union Minette Batters says it is "great news" that it looks like the deal will mean tariff and quota free trade between the UK and the EU. She also welcomes news that the UK will be awarded third country listing (meaning almost all food and plant exports from Great Britain can continue after Brexit).
However she expresses concern about what the trade facilitation costs will be adding that farmers often end up bearing "the huge brunt of the risk".
She says she wants clarity on where those costs will be. Remainers now into desperately trying to find anything to attack a deal hat hasn’t even been published yet. I asked Mr Snowflake to describe how Boris had completely buckled over fishing and other stuff, and to itemise what other stuff is. He's obviously still consulting Mystic Meg, his crystal ball and his Tarot cards for an answer. Come on Mr. Expert, you’ve had plenty to say up to now, why so quiet? I’m not interested in talking to racist f**k nuggets . What’s so difficult to understand? |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 24, 2020 14:41:09 GMT
Remainers now into desperately trying to find anything to attack a deal hat hasn’t even been published yet. I asked Mr Snowflake to describe how Boris had completely buckled over fishing and other stuff, and to itemise what other stuff is. He's obviously still consulting Mystic Meg, his crystal ball and his Tarot cards for an answer. Come on Mr. Expert, you’ve had plenty to say up to now, why so quiet? Probably waiting for your evidence I’ve asked you multiple times regarding the MHRA. So come on Mr. Expert, you’ve had plenty to say up to now - why so quiet? I’ve answered that question before. If we had been full members of the EU, not in transition and about to leave the EU deal or no deal, d9 you really think we would have unilaterally licensed that vaccine? The EU wouldn’t have allowed it, no matter what agreements ere in place. Hancock and others who said we had been able to issue the licence because of Brexit were hauled in and told to shut up. There was then hurried diplomacy to calm the EU’s ruffled feathers because it wasn’t seen as wise to rub their nose in it. You know it, I know it and the EU knows it. |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 24, 2020 14:43:00 GMT
Remainers now into desperately trying to find anything to attack a deal hat hasn’t even been published yet. I asked Mr Snowflake to describe how Boris had completely buckled over fishing and other stuff, and to itemise what other stuff is. He's obviously still consulting Mystic Meg, his crystal ball and his Tarot cards for an answer. Come on Mr. Expert, you’ve had plenty to say up to now, why so quiet? I’m not interested in talking to racist f**k nuggets . What’s so difficult to understand? Certainly not the fact you’re a snowflake. Merry Xmas. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 24, 2020 14:45:31 GMT
Deal done ✅
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Post by peterparker on Dec 24, 2020 15:22:41 GMT
Here is the government's statement: "Everything that the British public was promised during the 2016 referendum and in the general election last year is delivered by this deal."
"We have taken back control of our money, borders, laws, trade and our fishing waters
"The deal is fantastic news for families and businesses in every part of the UK.
"We have signed the first free trade agreement based on zero tariffs and zero quotas that has ever been achieved with the EU.
"The deal is the biggest bilateral trade deal signed by either side, covering trade worth £668bn in 2019.
"The deal also guarantees that we are no longer in the lunar pull of the EU, we are not bound by EU rules, there is no role for the European Court of Justice and all of our key red lines about returning sovereignty have been achieved.
"It means that we will have full political and economic independence on 1st January 2021."
"A points-based immigration system will put us in full control of who enters the UK and free movement will end.
"We have delivered this great deal for the entire United Kingdom in record time, and under extremely challenging conditions, which protects the integrity of our internal market and Northern Ireland’s place within it.
"We have got Brexit done and we can now take full advantage of the fantastic opportunities available to us as an independent trading nation, striking trade deals with other partners around the world
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Post by Gassy on Dec 24, 2020 15:25:13 GMT
Probably waiting for your evidence I’ve asked you multiple times regarding the MHRA. So come on Mr. Expert, you’ve had plenty to say up to now - why so quiet? I’ve answered that question before. If we had been full members of the EU, not in transition and about to leave the EU deal or no deal, d9 you really think we would have unilaterally licensed that vaccine? The EU wouldn’t have allowed it, no matter what agreements ere in place. Hancock and others who said we had been able to issue the licence because of Brexit were hauled in and told to shut up. There was then hurried diplomacy to calm the EU’s ruffled feathers because it wasn’t seen as wise to rub their nose in it. You know it, I know it and the EU knows it. Ah so it’s a conspiracy! Now I get it. You can’t prove it and you know it, so you’re making up that actually even though we could do it, the EU would block us. Why? Just because they would. So actually you’re thus proving the admittance that you’re wrong. Fantastic 😂 |
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Post by Gassy on Dec 24, 2020 15:26:57 GMT
Here is the government's statement: "Everything that the British public was promised during the 2016 referendum and in the general election last year is delivered by this deal." "We have taken back control of our money, borders, laws, trade and our fishing waters "The deal is fantastic news for families and businesses in every part of the UK. "We have signed the first free trade agreement based on zero tariffs and zero quotas that has ever been achieved with the EU. "The deal is the biggest bilateral trade deal signed by either side, covering trade worth £668bn in 2019. "The deal also guarantees that we are no longer in the lunar pull of the EU, we are not bound by EU rules, there is no role for the European Court of Justice and all of our key red lines about returning sovereignty have been achieved. "It means that we will have full political and economic independence on 1st January 2021." "A points-based immigration system will put us in full control of who enters the UK and free movement will end. "We have delivered this great deal for the entire United Kingdom in record time, and under extremely challenging conditions, which protects the integrity of our internal market and Northern Ireland’s place within it. "We have got Brexit done and we can now take full advantage of the fantastic opportunities available to us as an independent trading nation, striking trade deals with other partners around the world Pleased to get a deal over the line. Reports here that it’s everything that was promised, reports the other side that Boris backed down on a lot at the end. I think that’s only natural from both sides. Will be interesting to read the detail when published |
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Post by peterparker on Dec 24, 2020 15:27:48 GMT
The European Commission president starts to outline more detail of the plan.
Mrs Von der Leyen says competition rules "will be fair and remain so", promising EU rules and standards "will be respected".
She says "effective tools" have been agreed to "react if fair competition is distorted".
The UK and EU will "continue cooperating in all areas of mutual interest", she adds, such as climate change, energy, security and transport.
And she confirms five and a half years of "full predictability for fishing communities" has been agreed.
"Together we still achieve more than we do apart."
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Post by peterparker on Dec 24, 2020 15:53:26 GMT
Confirmed, leaving Erasmus
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Post by peterparker on Dec 24, 2020 16:03:44 GMT
Back to the PM's press conference and Mr Johnson is accused by ITV's Robert Peston of "mis-selling" the deal, and that the UK will have to follow EU rules on subsidies, tax, on workers' rights and the environment - or potentially incur tariffs.
Peston says it's also "not right" to say there will be no non-tariff barriers, as from January there will be new bureaucracy for British businesses.
"I respectfully disagree with you," says Mr Johnson.
"Because there is indeed a clause in the deal which is nothing like as damaging as it was - and is, in my view neutralised - which says if either country feel that the other one is in some way undercutting... then subject to arbitration and provided the measure is proportionate... they can, if they really choose, put on tariffs to protect their consumers and their businesses.
Mr Johnson gives the example that the UK wants "to go further on animal welfare standards" and "it might be that we do things for example on how you rear pigs" that would incur extra costs for pig farmers - and there would be a risk that pigs from elsewhere could undercut them.
"We might under those circumstances consider imposing tariffs. I think it's highly unlikely but we might consider it."
In no circumstances would we be in any way constrained legally or otherwise, Mr Johnson adds.
Mr Johnson says it is far from the idea of the UK and EU working to a "common rule book".
Responding to Robert Peston's second point, Mr Johnson says "there will be change" for businesses on 1 January - but that it will be an opportunity.
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Post by peterparker on Dec 24, 2020 16:04:19 GMT
He says the service sector does feature in the deal with "good language about equivalence for financial services"
"Not as much as we would have liked... but it is going to allow our dynamic City of London to prosper as never before."
He adds that lawyers will be able to practice around the EU.
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Post by peterparker on Dec 24, 2020 16:32:10 GMT
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Post by peterparker on Dec 24, 2020 17:00:34 GMT
Breakdown of the deal here
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Post by oldgas on Dec 24, 2020 17:08:38 GMT
I’ve answered that question before. If we had been full members of the EU, not in transition and about to leave the EU deal or no deal, d9 you really think we would have unilaterally licensed that vaccine? The EU wouldn’t have allowed it, no matter what agreements ere in place. Hancock and others who said we had been able to issue the licence because of Brexit were hauled in and told to shut up. There was then hurried diplomacy to calm the EU’s ruffled feathers because it wasn’t seen as wise to rub their nose in it. You know it, I know it and the EU knows it. Ah so it’s a conspiracy! Now I get it. You can’t prove it and you know it, so you’re making up that actually even though we could do it, the EU would block us. Why? Just because they would. So actually you’re thus proving the admittance that you’re wrong. Fantastic 😂 You're being deliberately obtuse old boy. You know exactly what I mean. If you want to make foolish comments then carry on.mthe fact is we have started the vaccination programme well before any other country in the EU and the reason for that is BREXIT. Just imagine, in 8 days time we will be trading with them in exactly the same way, but we won't be tied to their laws, their rules, we will be in control of our sovereign waters. We will be able to dcide who comes to live and work here rather than be open house to the entire continent. In addition there's the small matter of not having to pay £15 billion per year for the priveledge. No longer will we be subsidising road building projects in rural Spain, or subsidising French agriculture, among many other things. All the government has to do now is put a stop to that person ridiculous Foreign Aid rip-off and the money saved can be used to help British Homeless, the unemployed and to feed hungry children. |
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Post by peterparker on Dec 24, 2020 17:15:29 GMT
Ah so it’s a conspiracy! Now I get it. You can’t prove it and you know it, so you’re making up that actually even though we could do it, the EU would block us. Why? Just because they would. So actually you’re thus proving the admittance that you’re wrong. Fantastic 😂 You're being deliberately obtuse old boy. You know exactly what I mean. If you want to make foolish comments then carry on.mthe fact is we have started the vaccination programme well before any other country in the EU and the reason for that is BREXIT. Just imagine, in 8 days time we will be trading with them in exactly the same way, but we won't be tied to their laws, their rules, we will be in control of our sovereign waters. We will be able to dcide who comes to live and work here rather than be open house to the entire continent. In addition there's the small matter of not having to pay £15 billion per year for the priveledge. No longer will we be subsidising road building projects in rural Spain, or subsidising French agriculture, among many other things. All the government has to do now is put a stop to that person ridiculous Foreign Aid rip-off and the money saved can be used to help British Homeless, the unemployed and to feed hungry children. Well we wont be trading the same way as we will have to do paperwork and goods will need to be checked. Financial services not exactly covered in the deal (our major GDP provider) Remember the EU funded many British projects in deprived areas. so it's on the British Government to fund these things now if they are true about leveling up |
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Post by trevorgas on Dec 24, 2020 17:32:18 GMT
Confirmed, leaving Erasmus Yes but you missed the bit where we are launching a world wide scheme named after Alan Turing |
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Post by peterparker on Dec 24, 2020 17:41:17 GMT
Confirmed, leaving Erasmus Yes but you missed the bit where we are launching a world wide scheme named after Alan Turing yes, picking but bits as I go Boris did say Leaving Erasmus was tough, but it was expensive (as if some sort of justification) before announcing the Turing scheme (which will no doubt be very expensive) |
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