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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2020 16:45:28 GMT
Of course I agree that we should all try and make the most of being an independent, sovereign nation, free to deal with the rest of the world and able to make out ow laws without having to conform with the rules imposed by a third party. I would also like to point out that Nobby eventually left the forum because of the way he was treated. I voted to leave, however I felt sure the farrago of lies put out by project fear and backed by Cameron’s government money and machine would tip the vote Remains way. If that had happened I would have accepted the decision and got o with things, it wouldn’t have made any difference to me personally, although I would have felt the country had missed an opportunity. The almost immediate refusal of certain elements to accept the result, and to then embark on what turned out to be 41/2 years of sabotage, aided and abetted by certain newspapers, OK I don’t buy them, but the BBC, to which I pay my licence fee embarked on an open campaign to overturn that result and I find that unforgivable. The venom with which what I would describe as ordinary people, such as some that support The Gas have also sought to overturn the result and moan on here about it; who do these people think they are to hold democracy so cheaply? Of course, the Remainers to some extent played into the Brexit Camps hands, for by voting down traitor Mays surrender deal 3 times they directly ensured Boris won his landslide victory and helped deliver a proper Brexit. So for that I thank you, but not for the way you went about it. Interestingly, a lot of what you posted could be inverted and still hold true. Also, Farage talked about carrying on the campaign when he thought Remain had won. Project Fear wasn't all one way and plenty think certain papers and even BBC correspondants were in Boris' pockets. As for Theresa May's deal, still no need for terms like traitor or surrender, nor I see any comment about not winding up others. Not sure what the final staw was for Nobby. I know he and Gassy fell out big time but was holding his own Brexit wise up until then. Perhaps if the name calling, such as Marxist, was not bandied about so easily threads would not degenerate the way they so often do when Oldgas gets involved. You Stuart articulated the case against WTO rules which was factually correct. Did you receive a coherent response? What we read is ridiculous language, such as that you have pointed out, overt racist language when describing immigrants. It's just not worth it Stuart, at best he is a WUM, at worse? We'll pick your adjective. |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 30, 2020 17:32:18 GMT
Interestingly, a lot of what you posted could be inverted and still hold true. Also, Farage talked about carrying on the campaign when he thought Remain had won. Project Fear wasn't all one way and plenty think certain papers and even BBC correspondants were in Boris' pockets. As for Theresa May's deal, still no need for terms like traitor or surrender, nor I see any comment about not winding up others. Not sure what the final staw was for Nobby. I know he and Gassy fell out big time but was holding his own Brexit wise up until then. Perhaps if the name calling, such as Marxist, was not bandied about so easily threads would not degenerate the way they so often do when Oldgas gets involved. You Stuart articulated the case against WTO rules which was factually correct. Did you receive a coherent response? What we read is ridiculous language, such as that you have pointed out, overt racist language when describing immigrants. It's just not worth it Stuart, at best he is a WUM, at worse? We'll pick your adjective. No racist language used by me Oldie, just Snowflakes jumping on something they think they can use to silence someone. Doesn't work with me I’m afraid. And referring to you as a marxist isn’t name calling, it’s just calling you what you are. If you don’t like being called a Marxist, don’t publish Marxist views. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 30, 2020 17:38:20 GMT
“Gimmigrants isn’t in anyway racist 😮 “ said the racist .
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Post by peterparker on Dec 30, 2020 17:49:07 GMT
Would be interested in nobbys view of the deal
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Post by oldgas on Dec 30, 2020 17:49:30 GMT
Of course I agree that we should all try and make the most of being an independent, sovereign nation, free to deal with the rest of the world and able to make out ow laws without having to conform with the rules imposed by a third party. I would also like to point out that Nobby eventually left the forum because of the way he was treated. I voted to leave, however I felt sure the farrago of lies put out by project fear and backed by Cameron’s government money and machine would tip the vote Remains way. If that had happened I would have accepted the decision and got o with things, it wouldn’t have made any difference to me personally, although I would have felt the country had missed an opportunity. The almost immediate refusal of certain elements to accept the result, and to then embark on what turned out to be 41/2 years of sabotage, aided and abetted by certain newspapers, OK I don’t buy them, but the BBC, to which I pay my licence fee embarked on an open campaign to overturn that result and I find that unforgivable. The venom with which what I would describe as ordinary people, such as some that support The Gas have also sought to overturn the result and moan on here about it; who do these people think they are to hold democracy so cheaply? Of course, the Remainers to some extent played into the Brexit Camps hands, for by voting down traitor Mays surrender deal 3 times they directly ensured Boris won his landslide victory and helped deliver a proper Brexit. So for that I thank you, but not for the way you went about it. Interestingly, a lot of what you posted could be inverted and still hold true. Also, Farage talked about carrying on the campaign when he thought Remain had won. Project Fear wasn't all one way and plenty think certain papers and even BBC correspondants were in Boris' pockets. As for Theresa May's deal, still no need for terms like traitor or surrender, nor I see any comment about not winding up others. Not sure what the final staw was for Nobby. I know he and Gassy fell out big time but was holding his own Brexit wise up until then. I don’t agree with your first paragraph. The Remain side had the full weight of the government machine behind it. I dug out that pamphlet extolling the virtues of the EU that Cameron spend what, £9 million quid on. Leave couldn’t afford to do that. I re-read it and it was a pack of lies. Leave were up against the govt, Liebour and the Limp Dems, to say nothing of wee Jimmy Krankie. Nigel F. May have said he would have carried on, but I think I said I would have accepted Remain and carried on with my life, I would have accepted the democratic vote. Of course certain papers were pro Leave, just as the usual suspects were pro Remain. As for the BBC or their people being in Boris’ pocket, that’s got to be the best yet. Please name them and explain how they assisted Leave. From my certain recollection the BBC was massively in favour of Remain and then a second referendum, from those smug Islingtonites on HIGNFY to the fixed panels and audiences on QT. Afor that traitor May, that’s exactly what she was and her deal was a surrender and she hid behind the sofa during the referendum campaign and had to be ordered out to campaign by Cameron. Having got the top job she completely embarrassed herself with her craven attempts at negotiations and the EU side walked all over her. Totally useless. The hopeless deal she came back with should have filled your Remainer hearts with joy, but you had all got so arrogant and cocky that you thought you could overturn the ref result and stay in the EU. Thank God you did what you did, for without your assistance we would have never got Boris as PM and everything that followed. In the words of the song....”Who’s sorry now? Who’s sorry now? We’re out out of the EU so who’s sorry now? |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 30, 2020 17:52:57 GMT
Would be interested in nobbys view of the deal You’re never going to find out because, just like with Eric and like you’ve tried to do with me, you all ganged up and drove him out. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2020 17:53:39 GMT
Perhaps if the name calling, such as Marxist, was not bandied about so easily threads would not degenerate the way they so often do when Oldgas gets involved. You Stuart articulated the case against WTO rules which was factually correct. Did you receive a coherent response? What we read is ridiculous language, such as that you have pointed out, overt racist language when describing immigrants. It's just not worth it Stuart, at best he is a WUM, at worse? We'll pick your adjective. No racist language used by me Oldie, just Snowflakes jumping on something they think they can use to silence someone. Doesn't work with me I’m afraid. And referring to you as a marxist isn’t name calling, it’s just calling you what you are. If you don’t like being called a Marxist, don’t publish Marxist views. I will post as I choose thank you. Given my working career, to call me a Marxist is beyond laughable. That my views so starkly differ from yours says much more about you than me. It might add up to an interesting discussion if you did not defend your views by labelling those disagree with tags such as Marxist, but actually provided the evidence that has lead you to your view points. But you never have, ever. Your posts are just littered with inane ramblings, fact free rants and name calling. All in all you are, in my opinion, not worth the time of day. |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 30, 2020 17:54:21 GMT
“Gimmigrants isn’t in anyway racist 😮 “ said the racist . No it’s not racist, except to a raggedy old snowflake like you. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 30, 2020 18:06:57 GMT
Diddums 😭..... “they’re all ganging up on me “
He calls other people snowflakes 😂👍
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Post by oldgas on Dec 30, 2020 18:22:21 GMT
No racist language used by me Oldie, just Snowflakes jumping on something they think they can use to silence someone. Doesn't work with me I’m afraid. And referring to you as a marxist isn’t name calling, it’s just calling you what you are. If you don’t like being called a Marxist, don’t publish Marxist views. I will post as I choose thank you. Given my working career, to call me a Marxist is beyond laughable. That my views so starkly differ from yours says much more about you than me. It might add up to an interesting discussion if you did not defend your views by labelling those disagree with tags such as Marxist, but actually provided the evidence that has lead you to your view points. But you never have, ever. Your posts are just littered with inane ramblings, fact free rants and name calling. All in all you are, in my opinion, not worth the time of day. Absolutely, post what you want, it’s what free speech is all about. Unfortunately people of your persuasion only seem like free speech as long as others agree with you. It seems to me that you gang up on people who disagree with your political view and drive them out. Nobby, Eric and you’ve tried it with me. I kind of see what’s it must have been like to be Jewish in Corbyns Labour Party.You collectively make snide comments about people, question their intelligence and then moan and bleat when they return the compliment. So post your Marxist views, but I retain the right to challenge them and call you a Marxist. And I don’t care what you say you’ve done in business; you’re either a complete traitor to your beliefs of a total sham. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 30, 2020 19:04:49 GMT
I will post as I choose thank you. Given my working career, to call me a Marxist is beyond laughable. That my views so starkly differ from yours says much more about you than me. It might add up to an interesting discussion if you did not defend your views by labelling those disagree with tags such as Marxist, but actually provided the evidence that has lead you to your view points. But you never have, ever. Your posts are just littered with inane ramblings, fact free rants and name calling. All in all you are, in my opinion, not worth the time of day. Absolutely, post what you want, it’s what free speech is all about. Unfortunately people of your persuasion only seem like free speech as long as others agree with you. It seems to me that you gang up on people who disagree with your political view and drive them out. Nobby, Eric and you’ve tried it with me. I kind of see what’s it must have been like to be Jewish in Corbyns Labour Party.You collectively make snide comments about people, question their intelligence and then moan and bleat when they return the compliment. So post your Marxist views, but I retain the right to challenge them and call you a Marxist. And I don’t care what you say you’ve done in business; you’re either a complete traitor to your beliefs of a total sham. Eric still lurks about liking and disliking posts. He hasn't posted since nobby left and so he didn't have anyone to bail him out anymore of the logical holes he kept digging himself. Seems he doesn't really believe you're a suitable replacement  IMHO. |
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Post by peterparker on Dec 30, 2020 19:21:57 GMT
Would be interested in nobbys view of the deal You’re never going to find out because, just like with Eric and like you’ve tried to do with me, you all ganged up and drove him out. Pretty sure i debated with nobby on many subjects perfectly well for 15 years. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 30, 2020 19:26:41 GMT
Would be interested in nobbys view of the deal Very similar to Oldgas at a guess 🙄 |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 30, 2020 19:28:27 GMT
Diddums 😭..... “they’re all ganging up on me “ He calls other people snowflakes 😂👍 It doesn’t bother me, however you seem to have managed to water off Nobby and Eric. Dont be such a Pratt. |
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Post by peterparker on Dec 30, 2020 19:29:02 GMT
Interestingly, a lot of what you posted could be inverted and still hold true. Also, Farage talked about carrying on the campaign when he thought Remain had won. Project Fear wasn't all one way and plenty think certain papers and even BBC correspondants were in Boris' pockets. As for Theresa May's deal, still no need for terms like traitor or surrender, nor I see any comment about not winding up others. Not sure what the final staw was for Nobby. I know he and Gassy fell out big time but was holding his own Brexit wise up until then. I don’t agree with your first paragraph. The Remain side had the full weight of the government machine behind it. I dug out that pamphlet extolling the virtues of the EU that Cameron spend what, £9 million quid on. Leave couldn’t afford to do that. I re-read it and it was a pack of lies. Leave were up against the govt, Liebour and the Limp Dems, to say nothing of wee Jimmy Krankie. Nigel F. May have said he would have carried on, but I think I said I would have accepted Remain and carried on with my life, I would have accepted the democratic vote. Of course certain papers were pro Leave, just as the usual suspects were pro Remain. As for the BBC or their people being in Boris’ pocket, that’s got to be the best yet. Please name them and explain how they assisted Leave. From my certain recollection the BBC was massively in favour of Remain and then a second referendum, from those smug Islingtonites on HIGNFY to the fixed panels and audiences on QT. Afor that traitor May, that’s exactly what she was and her deal was a surrender and she hid behind the sofa during the referendum campaign and had to be ordered out to campaign by Cameron. Having got the top job she completely embarrassed herself with her craven attempts at negotiations and the EU side walked all over her. Totally useless. The hopeless deal she came back with should have filled your Remainer hearts with joy, but you had all got so arrogant and cocky that you thought you could overturn the ref result and stay in the EU. Thank God you did what you did, for without your assistance we would have never got Boris as PM and everything that followed. In the words of the song....”Who’s sorry now? Who’s sorry now? We’re out out of the EU so who’s sorry now? Serious question. Realistically how much different is Boris' deal to Theresa May's NI are bound by EU regs and different to the rest of GB. (Something no British PM could sign up to apparently) On level playing field if we diverge too much, tariffs will be applied to British goods. We have weakened security beyond anything TM would have wanted and there are no provisions (currently) for the service sector |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 30, 2020 19:29:58 GMT
Absolutely, post what you want, it’s what free speech is all about. Unfortunately people of your persuasion only seem like free speech as long as others agree with you. It seems to me that you gang up on people who disagree with your political view and drive them out. Nobby, Eric and you’ve tried it with me. I kind of see what’s it must have been like to be Jewish in Corbyns Labour Party.You collectively make snide comments about people, question their intelligence and then moan and bleat when they return the compliment. So post your Marxist views, but I retain the right to challenge them and call you a Marxist. And I don’t care what you say you’ve done in business; you’re either a complete traitor to your beliefs of a total sham. Eric still lurks about liking and disliking posts. He hasn't posted since nobby left and so he didn't have anyone to bail him out anymore of the logical holes he kept digging himself. Seems he doesn't really believe you're a suitable replacement IMHO. You’ve got that wrong as well Dribble. I suggest you go back and find the post where Eric said he would no longer engage and why. |
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Post by yattongas on Dec 30, 2020 19:30:05 GMT
Diddums 😭..... “they’re all ganging up on me “ He calls other people snowflakes 😂👍 It doesn’t bother me, however you seem to have managed to Wee wee off Nobby and Eric. Dont be such a Pratt. I wasn’t posting on this section then you prized twonk . |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 30, 2020 19:31:52 GMT
I don’t agree with your first paragraph. The Remain side had the full weight of the government machine behind it. I dug out that pamphlet extolling the virtues of the EU that Cameron spend what, £9 million quid on. Leave couldn’t afford to do that. I re-read it and it was a pack of lies. Leave were up against the govt, Liebour and the Limp Dems, to say nothing of wee Jimmy Krankie. Nigel F. May have said he would have carried on, but I think I said I would have accepted Remain and carried on with my life, I would have accepted the democratic vote. Of course certain papers were pro Leave, just as the usual suspects were pro Remain. As for the BBC or their people being in Boris’ pocket, that’s got to be the best yet. Please name them and explain how they assisted Leave. From my certain recollection the BBC was massively in favour of Remain and then a second referendum, from those smug Islingtonites on HIGNFY to the fixed panels and audiences on QT. Afor that traitor May, that’s exactly what she was and her deal was a surrender and she hid behind the sofa during the referendum campaign and had to be ordered out to campaign by Cameron. Having got the top job she completely embarrassed herself with her craven attempts at negotiations and the EU side walked all over her. Totally useless. The hopeless deal she came back with should have filled your Remainer hearts with joy, but you had all got so arrogant and cocky that you thought you could overturn the ref result and stay in the EU. Thank God you did what you did, for without your assistance we would have never got Boris as PM and everything that followed. In the words of the song....”Who’s sorry now? Who’s sorry now? We’re out out of the EU so who’s sorry now? Serious question. Realistically how much different is Boris' deal to Theresa May's NI are bound by EU regs and different to the rest of GB. (Something no British PM could sign up to apparently) On level playing field if we diverge too much, tariffs will be applied to British goods. We have weakened security beyond anything TM would have wanted and there are no provisions (currently) for the service sector If you don’t know the difference then you really haven’t been paying much attention have you? The 2 deals are as different as chalk and cheese, as well you know. |
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Post by oldgas on Dec 30, 2020 19:32:59 GMT
It doesn’t bother me, however you seem to have managed to Wee wee off Nobby and Eric. Dont be such a Pratt. I wasn’t posting on this section then you prized twonk . Perhaps it was a collective you, snowy. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 30, 2020 19:40:32 GMT
Serious question. Realistically how much different is Boris' deal to Theresa May's NI are bound by EU regs and different to the rest of GB. (Something no British PM could sign up to apparently) On level playing field if we diverge too much, tariffs will be applied to British goods. We have weakened security beyond anything TM would have wanted and there are no provisions (currently) for the service sector If you don’t know the difference then you really haven’t been paying much attention have you? The 2 deals are as different as chalk and cheese, as well you know. Not the Withdrawal Agreements, they were pretty much identical. |
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