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Post by singupgas on Aug 20, 2018 7:43:01 GMT
Of course he has a right to give his opinion, even on TV. But all he actually said was 'give us some money.' The perennial whine of the fan is always 'give us some money.' So all he's done is be a whiny fan on TV. Fair play, I suppose, for getting someone to pay him to whine about not getting enough money on TV. All the other fans have to whine about not getting enough money on the forum. Unless i am missing something he was only asked about Rovers, the once, after our highlights had played, voicing one opinion in window of 5 seconds. It was hardly a scathing rant.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 20, 2018 8:05:17 GMT
Of course he has a right to give his opinion, even on TV. But all he actually said was 'give us some money.' The perennial whine of the fan is always 'give us some money.' So all he's done is be a whiny fan on TV. Fair play, I suppose, for getting someone to pay him to whine about not getting enough money on TV. All the other fans have to whine about not getting enough money on the forum. Unless i am missing something he was only asked about Rovers, the once, after our highlights had played, voicing one opinion in window of 5 seconds. It was hardly a scathing rant. I didn't say it was a scathing rant. My point is, it wasn't incisive commentary, or ITK insight, or any sort of informed opinion. To be clearer, I'm not saying he's just a whiny fan with no knowledge or reason, I'm just saying he said exactly what a whiny fan with no knowledge or reason would have said.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Aug 20, 2018 9:44:04 GMT
I reckon Ollie is one of those who still hasn't realised we're not owned by billionaires.
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Post by singupgas on Aug 20, 2018 9:58:16 GMT
I reckon Ollie is one of those who still hasn't realised we're not owned by billionaires. Imagine he does realise like everyone else we arent owned by billionaires. Just passionate Rovers man, who thought when a wealthy family to take over talking of building a stadium and a training ground, DC himself may have had more money to spend and not had to rely on selling our best players every window - which is exactly what we have done.
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 20, 2018 10:25:19 GMT
What's Wayne got to do with it? I wonder if Ollie ever said NH & co should be digging deeper into their pockets in the past? DC probably the best supported manager since Holloway was in charge. Trollope was given more funds than Clarke. Holloway is a Gashead and is allowed to voice his opinions just like the rest of us. Regardless of whether its on a national Television programme, a local radio phone in or a Football Club forum like this one. DC has probably spent over £600,000 on fees alone since last January. Can't remember Trollope spending anywhere near that, in such a short space of time?? Plus I thought our wage budget was higher now, than ever. Don't think Trollope had anywhere near the same.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Aug 20, 2018 10:32:30 GMT
Trollope was given more funds than Clarke. Holloway is a Gashead and is allowed to voice his opinions just like the rest of us. Regardless of whether its on a national Television programme, a local radio phone in or a Football Club forum like this one. DC has probably spent over £600,000 on fees alone since last January. Can't remember Trollope spending anywhere near that, in such a short space of time?? Plus I thought our wage budget was higher now, than ever. Don't think Trollope had anywhere near the same. Lambert aside though, which was apparently not even a PT signing did we receive as much in fees for players as we have under DC?
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Post by mariobalotelli on Aug 20, 2018 10:38:03 GMT
PT paid fees for Pipe, Williams and Coles in one summer. Signed Jeff Hughes the same summer who famously said he only chose us because we pay well
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 20, 2018 10:42:40 GMT
Trollope was given more funds than Clarke. Holloway is a Gashead and is allowed to voice his opinions just like the rest of us. Regardless of whether its on a national Television programme, a local radio phone in or a Football Club forum like this one. DC has probably spent over £600,000 on fees alone since last January. Can't remember Trollope spending anywhere near that, in such a short space of time?? Plus I thought our wage budget was higher now, than ever. Don't think Trollope had anywhere near the same. Rickie Lambert,Jeff Hughes, Jo Kuffour, Andy Williams, Darryl Duffy, Mark Wright, all signed for about £1M in total. Plus I think its pretty well known Rovers were paying far more in wages than we are now.
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 20, 2018 10:56:31 GMT
DC has probably spent over £600,000 on fees alone since last January. Can't remember Trollope spending anywhere near that, in such a short space of time?? Plus I thought our wage budget was higher now, than ever. Don't think Trollope had anywhere near the same. Rickie Lambert,Jeff Hughes, Jo Kuffour, Andy Williams, Darryl Duffy, Mark Wright, all signed for about £1M in total. Plus I think its pretty well known Rovers were paying far more in wages than we are now. That was over a 5 year period, I'm talking about DC since last January. We paid fees for Burn, Partington, Nichols, Sercombe, Mensah, THD, Payne. Since then. They can't be far off a million in just over 18 months. I was under the impression that league 1 wages have gone up a lot, over the last few years. Can't remember Trollope spending that amount, in a season and a half.
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Post by peterparker on Aug 20, 2018 11:05:02 GMT
Rickie Lambert,Jeff Hughes, Jo Kuffour, Andy Williams, Darryl Duffy, Mark Wright, all signed for about £1M in total. Plus I think its pretty well known Rovers were paying far more in wages than we are now. That was over a 5 year period, I'm talking about DC since last January. We paid fees for Burn, Partington, Nichols, Sercombe, Mensah, THD, Payne. Since then. They can't be far off a million in just over 18 months. I was under the impression that league 1 wages have gone up a lot, over the last few years. Can't remember Trollope spending that amount, in a season and a half. going buy what was reported (so not guaranteed fact) you are looking at
Burn - ?? Parting ton £100k approx. Nichols £350k Sercombe £150k Mensah £100k? Payne £200k THD ??
That's 900k there
regardless of what we sold in transfer fees, the board have given DC money to re-invest. They could easily have said no we need to plug the gaps in the finances.
Then we are down to wages and WAQ has clearly said me are operating within the rules of wages to turnover, hence the efforts to increase revenue, but some people want the owners to just gift money
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Post by faggotygas on Aug 20, 2018 11:21:09 GMT
Of course he has a right to give his opinion, even on TV. But all he actually said was 'give us some money.' The perennial whine of the fan is always 'give us some money.' So all he's done is be a whiny fan on TV. Fair play, I suppose, for getting someone to pay him to whine about not getting enough money on TV. All the other fans have to whine about not getting enough money on the forum. Innit. Wah wah wah, the world owes my club a living, wah wah wah.
Clearly the owners are trying to get the club into a reasonably even financial position, through improving the customer experience without spending too much, better sponsorship, and making money on transfer fees (and reducing the fees that have to be spent) by investing in the development squad. If the club manages that it will look a lot more investable for the larger capital projects.
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 20, 2018 11:46:07 GMT
That was over a 5 year period, I'm talking about DC since last January. We paid fees for Burn, Partington, Nichols, Sercombe, Mensah, THD, Payne. Since then. They can't be far off a million in just over 18 months. I was under the impression that league 1 wages have gone up a lot, over the last few years. Can't remember Trollope spending that amount, in a season and a half. going buy what was reported (so not guaranteed fact) you are looking at
Burn - ?? Parting ton £100k approx. Nichols £350k Sercombe £150k Mensah £100k? Payne £200k THD ??
That's 900k there
regardless of what we sold in transfer fees, the board have given DC money to re-invest. They could easily have said no we need to plug the gaps in the finances.
Then we are down to wages and WAQ has clearly said me are operating within the rules of wages to turnover, hence the efforts to increase revenue, but some people want the owners to just gift money
Exactly and we only just received the Ellis money and might be getting it in instalments, according to some. So we had probably reinvested everything pre this transfer window. When Trollope was in charge, we also sold players including Lambert. Plus we had money from a Wembley final, a millennium stadium final and the fa cup run to the quarter final. I think DC has been backed more over a season and half, than any previous manager.
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 20, 2018 11:49:07 GMT
Rickie Lambert,Jeff Hughes, Jo Kuffour, Andy Williams, Darryl Duffy, Mark Wright, all signed for about £1M in total. Plus I think its pretty well known Rovers were paying far more in wages than we are now. That was over a 5 year period, I'm talking about DC since last January. We paid fees for Burn, Partington, Nichols, Sercombe, Mensah, THD, Payne. Since then. They can't be far off a million in just over 18 months. I was under the impression that league 1 wages have gone up a lot, over the last few years. Can't remember Trollope spending that amount, in a season and a half. All of those players I mentioned were signed pretty much within an 18 month period too between 2006-2008 bar Mark Wright in 2009. So Trollope spent that in 18 months too. Jeff Hughes said he signed for us because "We pay good wages".
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Post by baggins on Aug 20, 2018 11:51:19 GMT
Ok, this has gone way off topic everyone.
As it happens, it's turned into a good debate, which makes a change, maybe a new thread?
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 20, 2018 12:05:46 GMT
That was over a 5 year period, I'm talking about DC since last January. We paid fees for Burn, Partington, Nichols, Sercombe, Mensah, THD, Payne. Since then. They can't be far off a million in just over 18 months. I was under the impression that league 1 wages have gone up a lot, over the last few years. Can't remember Trollope spending that amount, in a season and a half. All of those players I mentioned were signed pretty much within an 18 month period too between 2006-2008 bar Mark Wright in 2009. So Trollope spent that in 18 months too. Jeff Hughes said he signed for us because "We pay good wages". Thought he was signed on a free. Can't remember us paying fees for any apart from Lambert and Williams if I'm honest. How much did we pay for him and Kuffour etc???
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Post by gaelgas on Aug 20, 2018 20:15:55 GMT
What's Wayne got to do with it? I wonder if Ollie ever said NH & co should be digging deeper into their pockets in the past? DC probably the best supported manager since Holloway was in charge. Seriously? Isn't it just a play on words? The love in is on the WANE? Honestly some people will jump on literally anything!
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 20, 2018 21:58:43 GMT
What's Wayne got to do with it? I wonder if Ollie ever said NH & co should be digging deeper into their pockets in the past? DC probably the best supported manager since Holloway was in charge. Seriously? Isn't it just a play on words? The love in is on the WANE? Honestly some people will jump on literally anything! Some posters have clearly lost their sense of humour!
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Post by mariobalotelli on Aug 20, 2018 22:09:15 GMT
All of those players I mentioned were signed pretty much within an 18 month period too between 2006-2008 bar Mark Wright in 2009. So Trollope spent that in 18 months too. Jeff Hughes said he signed for us because "We pay good wages". Thought he was signed on a free. Can't remember us paying fees for any apart from Lambert and Williams if I'm honest. How much did we pay for him and Kuffour etc??? According to transfer market we spent 450k on just Coles, Pipe and Williams. Hughes was signed on a free but the point was more so that he specifically said he signed because we paid good wages. Edit: Just realised you may have meant Wright but we did pay a 5 figure fee for him too
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 20, 2018 22:45:49 GMT
Thought he was signed on a free. Can't remember us paying fees for any apart from Lambert and Williams if I'm honest. How much did we pay for him and Kuffour etc??? According to transfer market we spent 450k on just Coles, Pipe and Williams. Hughes was signed on a free but the point was more so that he specifically said he signed because we paid good wages. Edit: Just realised you may have meant Wright but we did pay a 5 figure fee for him too Yes that's not accurate. It also says Duffy was a free, but I know we paid for him. Although it was only about £100,000. Mainly guesswork in there.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Aug 20, 2018 23:03:37 GMT
According to transfer market we spent 450k on just Coles, Pipe and Williams. Hughes was signed on a free but the point was more so that he specifically said he signed because we paid good wages. Edit: Just realised you may have meant Wright but we did pay a 5 figure fee for him too Yes that's not accurate. It also says Duffy was a free, but I know we paid for him. Although it was only about £100,000. Mainly guesswork in there. Yeah I know that but it's mostly undisclosed fees when it says players signed on a free. I remember reading we paid 90K for Pipe and thought we paid 200K for Williams but can't remember paying a fee for Coles. PT spent quite a lot though, even more so when you consider how much the transfer market has changed even at League 1 level in the 10 years since. Rickie Lambert would be a 3 or 4 mil player in today's market.
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