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Post by lastminutewinner on Aug 21, 2018 21:07:40 GMT
DC has to change his approach to pre season and recruitment. Its the same every year playing catch up. He gets it right eventually but what a season we'd be in for if we hit the ground running....
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Aug 21, 2018 21:09:19 GMT
Watching on iFollow I'd say a draw was probably about right. I disagree, they scored more than us so they deserve to win. That is the most important stat after all. You cant keep blaming everything or everyone, we leak goals and arent clinical enough. As I said I wasn't there but I'd argue that if the red card was harsh or plain wrong then that isnt blaming anyone just a fact. A wrong decision (if that's what it was) is bound to have an effect. I'd agree we have an issue defensively that needs addressing before the loan window shuts. My personal opinion is that we need a reliable goalkeeper Smith is too frenetic & to me whoever plays in front of him appears to have no confidence in him. If Slocombe is on the way out we desperately need a new first choice along with a centre half that will head crosses away.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 21:09:50 GMT
Was the sending off harsh? Nope. Looked a red to me too from south stand. Studs were up. However I’d like to know why that was a red yet the two footed tackle on Bennett(?) infront of the west enclosure was only a yellow?
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Post by Rod1883 on Aug 21, 2018 21:10:32 GMT
We've played two of the top teams - but are they top because we played them. OK I know that's a bit facetious, but we have lost 3 of 4, we haven't kept a clean sheet. We let in at least one poor goal from a defensive point of view every game, and our strikers haven't yet started to score freely.
I think the strikers will come good, but our defence is shocking, and the goalkeeping situation farcical. I think most if not all of us rate Slocombe as a better all round keeper than Smith but we've sent him out on loan in the days just before we play Portsmouth without a replacement!
If we don't get a better keeper and a dominating defender we will struggle because we will always concede a soft goal which will undermine confidence etc etc.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 21, 2018 21:10:38 GMT
Too many weak links in this team.
DC has some work to do.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Aug 21, 2018 21:12:40 GMT
I disagree, they scored more than us so they deserve to win. That is the most important stat after all. You cant keep blaming everything or everyone, we leak goals and arent clinical enough. As I said I wasn't there but I'd argue that if the red card was harsh or plain wrong then that isnt blaming anyone just a fact. A wrong decision (if that's what it was) is bound to have an effect.I'd agree we have an issue defensively that needs addressing before the loan window shuts. My personal opinion is that we need a reliable goalkeeper Smith is too frenetic & to me whoever plays in front of him appears to have no confidence in him. If Slocombe is on the way out we desperately need a new first choice along with a centre half that will head crosses away. Tighten up and concentrate for 12 mins and we couldn't even do that. I knew as soon as the red came out we would concede.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Aug 21, 2018 21:16:25 GMT
We've played two of the top teams - but are they top because we played them. OK I know that's a bit facetious, but we have lost 3 of 4, we haven't kept a clean sheet. We let in at least one poor goal from a defensive point of view every game, and our strikers haven't yet started to score freely. I think the strikers will come good, but our defence is shocking, and the goalkeeping situation farcical. I think most if not all of us rate Slocombe as a better all round keeper than Smith but we've sent him out on loan in the days just before we play Portsmouth without a replacement! If we don't get a better keeper and a dominating defender we will struggle because we will always concede a soft goal which will undermine confidence etc etc. No. They're top because they've beat everyone they've played?
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Post by Rod1883 on Aug 21, 2018 21:18:18 GMT
We've played two of the top teams - but are they top because we played them. OK I know that's a bit facetious, but we have lost 3 of 4, we haven't kept a clean sheet. We let in at least one poor goal from a defensive point of view every game, and our strikers haven't yet started to score freely. I think the strikers will come good, but our defence is shocking, and the goalkeeping situation farcical. I think most if not all of us rate Slocombe as a better all round keeper than Smith but we've sent him out on loan in the days just before we play Portsmouth without a replacement! If we don't get a better keeper and a dominating defender we will struggle because we will always concede a soft goal which will undermine confidence etc etc. No. They're top because they've beat everyone they've played? Look up facetious Mario
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Aug 21, 2018 21:18:23 GMT
As I said I wasn't there but I'd argue that if the red card was harsh or plain wrong then that isnt blaming anyone just a fact. A wrong decision (if that's what it was) is bound to have an effect.I'd agree we have an issue defensively that needs addressing before the loan window shuts. My personal opinion is that we need a reliable goalkeeper Smith is too frenetic & to me whoever plays in front of him appears to have no confidence in him. If Slocombe is on the way out we desperately need a new first choice along with a centre half that will head crosses away. Tighten up and concentrate for 12 mins and we couldn't even do that. I knew as soon as the red came out we would concede. Completely agree as soon as the decision is made its a case of organisation & doing the basics of defending properly. My point really is that decision changes the dynamics of the game from us equalising & pushing on to having to see it out with 10 men. It's not an excuse & we should be able to deal with it but it does change the game
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Post by dragonfly on Aug 21, 2018 21:21:02 GMT
The defensive issues have not been addressed and is now an acute problem. To compound it we have sent Slocombe out on loan leaving us with Smith who is not up to the job. We should have been able to see the game out at 1-1. Having said that we had enough chances to have won the game before Lines departure.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Aug 21, 2018 21:21:30 GMT
Tighten up and concentrate for 12 mins and we couldn't even do that. I knew as soon as the red came out we would concede. Completely agree as soon as the decision is made its a case of organisation & doing the basics of defending properly. My point really is that decision changes the dynamics of the game from us equalising & pushing on to having to see it out with 10 men. It's not an excuse & we should be able to deal with it but it does change the game Decisions go for and against every team in every league. You have to adjust to the situations that arise when they happen. Fans tend to only remember decisions going against their own team though.
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Aug 21, 2018 21:21:48 GMT
Thought we played some top football in the middle third of the pitch.
Up top we were unlucky not to do better. The link up play was sharp but our finishing, though it routinely tested the keeper, wasn't right in the corners. Those are the margins that make the difference.
At the back, James Clarke had their 'danger man' Lowe in his pocket all game but mistakes down out right side cost us. I've been a believer in Locks in previous seasons but now think we have to try someone else as the status quo isn't working. He comes across as a great character off the pitch and as someone who came through the academy, I don't want to write him off. Hopefully, he can come back stronger.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 21:22:59 GMT
No meltdown from me , just concerned with our continued bad defence and our inability to keep a clean sheet , like I said earlier we are garaunteed to make a mistake every game that leads to a goal , we’ve had this issue for a while now but nothing seems to of changed. We also keep playing well in large spells but fail to capitalise, prime example is Sercombes miss , they go up the other end and score ! Nothing was ever won or lost in August , of course , but things need to be sorted as losing games becomes a habit. No I wouldn’t have expected a meltdown from you personally as I know you’re a positive poster on the whole. It is frustrating to see us lose games due to defensive errors but Pompey were very clinical tonight and scored 2 goals when they had the chance. They’ve scored 7 goals in their 3 league games previously to tonight so we’re not the first side to suffer from them being clinical. My point was that I’d take encouragement from the fact that tonight we deserved to get something from the side that have won every game this season, but that will be ignored by a lot of people because the result didn’t go our way. They have got strikers who score goals of course they are going to be more clinical. Our strikeforce as of now have 1 goal between them from 4 games, so we can't be surprised when we huff and puff and score nowt and the opposition just score twice from few opportunities. For me the lack of goals up front is as much of a worry as the defending. Are we going to have to have the highest scoring defence in the league just to have a shout of staying up?
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Post by lastminutewinner on Aug 21, 2018 21:24:01 GMT
Thought we played some top football in the middle third of the pitch. Up top we were unlucky not to do better. The link up play was sharp but our finishing, though it routinely tested the keeper, wasn't right in the corners. Those are the margins that make the difference. At the back, James Clarke had their 'danger man' Lowe in his pocket all game but mistakes down out right side cost us. I've been a believer in Locks in previous seasons but now think we have to try someone else as the status quo isn't working. He comes across as a great character off the pitch and as someone who came through the academy, I don't want to write him off. Hopefully, he can come back stronger.He is a model pro, I know people who have lived next door to him and Ellis. Great guy, works hard, you want him to succeed...but sadly not good enough for the upper echelons of L1
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Aug 21, 2018 21:26:23 GMT
Was the sending off harsh? Lines should have stayed on his feet but dived in and gave the ref something to think about. Stupid and avoidable, someone of his experience should know better imo. Though I agree it was a red, I felt it wasn't entirely Lines' fault. It came about because we'd lost the ball at the back again, we were then on the back foot and a couple of frenetic tackles had to be thrown in.
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Post by midlandgas213 on Aug 21, 2018 21:28:58 GMT
Here we are back to normal when we play a top team we are not up to it 3 points from 4 games is not good enough
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Post by lastminutewinner on Aug 21, 2018 21:29:14 GMT
Lines should have stayed on his feet but dived in and gave the ref something to think about. Stupid and avoidable, someone of his experience should know better imo. Though I agree it was a red, I felt it wasn't entirely Lines' fault. It came about because we'd lost the ball at the back again, we were then on the back foot and a couple of frenetic tackles had to be thrown in. Lines' red card was entirely Lines fault regardless of the state of play
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Post by Okebournegas on Aug 21, 2018 21:30:16 GMT
No meltdown from me , just concerned with our continued bad defence and our inability to keep a clean sheet , like I said earlier we are garaunteed to make a mistake every game that leads to a goal , we’ve had this issue for a while now but nothing seems to of changed. We also keep playing well in large spells but fail to capitalise, prime example is Sercombes miss , they go up the other end and score ! Nothing was ever won or lost in August , of course , but things need to be sorted as losing games becomes a habit. No I wouldn’t have expected a meltdown from you personally as I know you’re a positive poster on the whole. It is frustrating to see us lose games due to defensive errors but Pompey were very clinical tonight and scored 2 goals when they had the chance. They’ve scored 7 goals in their 3 league games previously to tonight so we’re not the first side to suffer from them being clinical. My point was that I’d take encouragement from the fact that tonight we deserved to get something from the side that have won every game this season, but that will be ignored by a lot of people because the result didn’t go our way. Always respect your views ! Good reply like always and good post mate.
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Post by fabregas on Aug 21, 2018 21:30:26 GMT
Tighten up and concentrate for 12 mins and we couldn't even do that. I knew as soon as the red came out we would concede. Completely agree as soon as the decision is made its a case of organisation & doing the basics of defending properly. My point really is that decision changes the dynamics of the game from us equalising & pushing on to having to see it out with 10 men. It's not an excuse & we should be able to deal with it but it does change the game Have to agree. Momentum was with us after the pen. 2 mins later we hand it back to them.
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Post by Rod1883 on Aug 21, 2018 21:30:52 GMT
Lines should have stayed on his feet but dived in and gave the ref something to think about. Stupid and avoidable, someone of his experience should know better imo. Though I agree it was a red, I felt it wasn't entirely Lines' fault. It came about because we'd lost the ball at the back again, we were then on the back foot and a couple of frenetic tackles had to be thrown in. By the time Lines 'dived in', the player was going the wrong way/trying to turn. all he had to do was get close. I still feel it was harsh as he didn't launch himself from distance - but I guess these days if both feet are off the ground then you are not in control and you give the ref the opportunity to show a red.
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