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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Aug 25, 2018 16:11:12 GMT
Smith
Leadbitter J. Clarke Broadbent Craig
Bennett Upson O. Clarke Sercombe
Nichols Payne
Subs: Rodman Jakubiak Reilly
Crowd Ref Southend
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Post by aforce on Aug 25, 2018 16:43:44 GMT
Smith 5
leadbitter 5 J. Clarke 4 Broadbent 5 Craig 4
Bennett 6 Upson 3 O. Clarke 4 Sercombe
Nichols 4 Payne 6
Subs: Rodman 5 Jakubiak 5 Reilly 6
Crowd 7 Ref 3 Southend 3
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Post by Russgas on Aug 25, 2018 16:46:38 GMT
Smith 5
leadbitter 4 J. Clarke 4 Broadbent 5 Craig 4
Bennett 6 Upson 4 O. Clarke 4 Sercombe 5
Nichols 4 Payne 5
Subs: Rodman 5 Jakubiak 5 Reilly 5
Crowd 6 Ref 2 Southend 4
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 17:02:46 GMT
Smith 5
leadbitter 4 J. Clarke 7 Broadbent 4 Craig 3
Bennett 5 Upson 4 O. Clarke 4 Sercombe 5
Nichols 6 Payne 4
Subs: Rodman 6 Jakubiak 7 Reilly 7
Crowd 5 Ref 2 Southend 3
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Post by smudge1 on Aug 25, 2018 17:19:47 GMT
Smith 3 Shocking does not come for crosses, kicking awful Leadbitter 4 Poor, obviously not match fit, cannot cross the ball Craig 3 Showed no fight and obviously does not want to play full back J Clarke 4.5 Tried but is found wanting at centre half Broadbent 4 What has happened to the centre half that passes the ball out, or used to? Sercombe 5 Based on 18 minutes Bennett 3 For me was extremely poor and seems disruptive O Clarke 4.5 Tried but gave the ball away too often Upson 5.5 MOM best of a poor lot Payne 5 Tried but early booking affected him Nicholls 4 Not a good day, should have scored
Rodman 4 Average Reilly 5 Looks as though given the chance maybe ok Jakubiah 5 As above
Ref 2 water poor Southend 4 Almost as bad as us D.C. 4 Seems to have lost it, managing with his hands tied b e hi d his back Crowd 3 Understandably quiet
Abysmal - Only word for it. Yes I know Lockyer, Sercs etc but we were truly shocking. Schoolboy defending and bang average goalkeeping with nothing going forward. Body language is poor on the pitch and off the pitch from all. Too many players came out at half time laughing and joking. Nobody wanting to take responsibility. I am a D.C. supporter but he is overall responsible for the players at the club and tactics. Too many players playing out of position. Yes it is early in the season, but the way we are playing we are looking at a season near the bottom if not at the bottom. The club is a shambles, we have a new ticketing system that did not work at the turnstiles! What is that all about? Catering still not sorted, and new club shop all over the place. Let's hope we can turn it around but it is back to basics! Players in correct positions and give the players on the fringe a chance. The lack of support in player recruitment is frightening. D.C. has brought in a defensive coach, yet the defence is worse! Head of recruitment who cannot recruit! f**k me what is going on. Rant over, on to next project, UTG
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Aug 25, 2018 17:24:40 GMT
My own opinions of the game
Smith 5 Another game where he couldn't be blamed for the goal, but he did little positive. At one point it looked like we were the team time-wasting given how long Smith to place and then kick the ball.
Leadbitter 5 Got forward but end product wasn't there. J. Clarke 7 The only one who looked up for the fight at the end. Created our best chance from open play in the second half by actually running direct with it. Broadbent 4.5 Several misplaced passes that we were lucky to get away with. Won his headers from long balls, but I'm not entirely sure what happened on the goal Craig 4 If Southend had bothered to play much football, he would have been in more trouble than he was. I saw even less of him being vocal than usual which goes against those that say he has an organisational influence on the defence.
Bennett 4 Undoubtedly has a good first touch, he just rarely does much after that. Too lightweight in what became an increasingly physical game. Upson 5.5 Haven't been impressed so far in what he offers the team, but at least he was looking for the ball till the end O. Clarke 4 Last couple of games, I thought he was coming back to his best, but not on this showing. Anonymous is the simplest way to describe it. Sercombe 7 His rating probably improved after what happened after he went off. Got behind their defence with a good run and cross (for Nichols to hit the bar) which we never did again.
Nichols 6 Hit the bar and his link-up play was okay. Certainly was involved more than either sub was. Payne 5 Hamstrung by a stupid early booking and targeting by Southend. Nothing really came off for him
Subs: Rodman 5 Our play got worse when he came on, but he was mainly average. Corners and set pieces weren't too useful Reilly 5 Struggled to get in the game as our play was so poor. Hard to judge on today. Jakubiak 5 Same as Reilly really. Stupid booking but the Southend player deserved it.
Crowd 4 Flat Ref 4.5 In fairness he did seem to acknowledge a lot of the gamesmanship of Southend but he was the too lenient with a lot of it. Southend 4.5 One of the scummiest teams I've ever seen at the Mem. Could have beaten us by more though.
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Post by james246 on Aug 25, 2018 17:45:46 GMT
Smith 4 leadbitter 5 J. Clarke 5 Broadbent 4 Craig 5
Bennett 6 Upson 4 O. Clarke 6 Sercombe 5
Nichols 6 Payne 5
Subs: Rodman 6 Jakubiak 5 Reilly 7
Crowd 5 Ref 3 Southend 5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 17:54:45 GMT
Smith 5
Leadbitter 3 J. Clarke 7 Broadbent 5 Craig 5
Bennett 5 Upson 6 O. Clarke 4 Sercombe 6
Nichols 6 Payne 5
Subs: Rodman 3 Jakubiak 5 Reilly 5
Crowd 4 Ref 3 Southend 3
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 18:34:58 GMT
Smith 3 Shocking does not come for crosses, kicking awful Leadbitter 4 Poor, obviously not match fit, cannot cross the ball Craig 3 Showed no fight and obviously does not want to play full back J Clarke 4.5 Tried but is found wanting at centre half Broadbent 4 What has happened to the centre half that passes the ball out, or used to? Sercombe 5 Based on 18 minutes Bennett 3 For me was extremely poor and seems disruptive O Clarke 4.5 Tried but gave the ball away too often Upson 5.5 MOM best of a poor lot Payne 5 Tried but early booking affected him Nicholls 4 Not a good day, should have scored Rodman 4 Average Reilly 5 Looks as though given the chance maybe ok Jakubiah 5 As above Ref 2 water poor Southend 4 Almost as bad as us D.C. 4 Seems to have lost it, managing with his hands tied b e hi d his back Crowd 3 Understandably quiet Abysmal - Only word for it. Yes I know Lockyer, Sercs etc but we were truly shocking. Schoolboy defending and bang average goalkeeping with nothing going forward. Body language is poor on the pitch and off the pitch from all. Too many players came out at half time laughing and joking. Nobody wanting to take responsibility. I am a D.C. supporter but he is overall responsible for the players at the club and tactics. Too many players playing out of position. Yes it is early in the season, but the way we are playing we are looking at a season near the bottom if not at the bottom. The club is a shambles, we have a new ticketing system that did not work at the turnstiles! What is that all about? Catering still not sorted, and new club shop all over the place. Let's hope we can turn it around but it is back to basics! Players in correct positions and give the players on the fringe a chance. The lack of support in player recruitment is frightening. D.C. has brought in a defensive coach, yet the defence is worse! Head of recruitment who cannot recruit! f**k me what is going on. Rant over, on to next project, UTG I couldn't disagree more with most of this. I stand right next to the tunnel and trust me, not one player came off smiling at half time. In fact, Smith was giving verbals back to some idiot it the West Enclosure who was giving him stick. Opinions on players performance are very different to mine, but that of course is the beauty of it...we all have different opinions. But to insinuate players don't care is wrong. And what evidence is there that Bennett is disruptive?!!! Poor today yes, but...
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Post by biggsy on Aug 25, 2018 18:38:01 GMT
Smith 5 not at fault with the goal but inspires little confidence. Leadbitter 5 .5 wayward crossing but kept going. J. Clarke 6.5 m.o.m. the best of a poor bunch. Broadbent 5.5 a couple of decent headers but very poor on the ball. Craig 5 surprisingly subdued he's showing his age. Bennett 5.5 flitted in and out but produced little. Upson 6 decent O. Clarke 6 as Upson Sercombe 6 was looking quite bright before his injury Nichols 4.5 did little and squandered the only real chance we created all afternoon. Payne 5 a couple of headers won but otherwise achieved little. Subs: Rodman 5.5 didnt do much wrong but doesnt do enough. Jakubiak 4.5 not the type of player to come into a struggling side. Reilly 4.5 as Jakubiak Crowd 6 we took our punishment and went home, Ref 3 a typical League One ref Southend 4 almost as bad as us, they just had the cynical edge to see us off.
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Post by smudge1 on Aug 25, 2018 18:42:39 GMT
Smith 3 Shocking does not come for crosses, kicking awful Leadbitter 4 Poor, obviously not match fit, cannot cross the ball Craig 3 Showed no fight and obviously does not want to play full back J Clarke 4.5 Tried but is found wanting at centre half Broadbent 4 What has happened to the centre half that passes the ball out, or used to? Sercombe 5 Based on 18 minutes Bennett 3 For me was extremely poor and seems disruptive O Clarke 4.5 Tried but gave the ball away too often Upson 5.5 MOM best of a poor lot Payne 5 Tried but early booking affected him Nicholls 4 Not a good day, should have scored Rodman 4 Average Reilly 5 Looks as though given the chance maybe ok Jakubiah 5 As above Ref 2 water poor Southend 4 Almost as bad as us D.C. 4 Seems to have lost it, managing with his hands tied b e hi d his back Crowd 3 Understandably quiet Abysmal - Only word for it. Yes I know Lockyer, Sercs etc but we were truly shocking. Schoolboy defending and bang average goalkeeping with nothing going forward. Body language is poor on the pitch and off the pitch from all. Too many players came out at half time laughing and joking. Nobody wanting to take responsibility. I am a D.C. supporter but he is overall responsible for the players at the club and tactics. Too many players playing out of position. Yes it is early in the season, but the way we are playing we are looking at a season near the bottom if not at the bottom. The club is a shambles, we have a new ticketing system that did not work at the turnstiles! What is that all about? Catering still not sorted, and new club shop all over the place. Let's hope we can turn it around but it is back to basics! Players in correct positions and give the players on the fringe a chance. The lack of support in player recruitment is frightening. D.C. has brought in a defensive coach, yet the defence is worse! Head of recruitment who cannot recruit! f**k me what is going on. Rant over, on to next project, UTG I couldn't disagree more with most of this. I stand right next to the tunnel and trust me, not one player came off smiling at half time. In fact, Smith was giving verbals back to some idiot it the West Enclosure who was giving him stick. Opinions on players performance are very different to mine, but that of course is the beauty of it...we all have different opinions. But to insinuate players don't care is wrong. And what evidence is there that Bennett is disruptive?!!! Poor today yes, but... Sorry I meant when they returned to the pitch after the half time break, Bennett, Jakubiah, Mensah, Payne, Nichols! As you correctly state opinions differ and mine are what I saw and how I feel. I do respect your views though and I am sure we all want the same end product.
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 25, 2018 19:03:38 GMT
Smith 5 Leadbitter 2 Craig 5 J Clarke 6.5 MOM Broadbent 4 Sercombe 5 Based on 18 minutes Bennett 4 O Clarke 4 Upson 6 Payne 5 Nicholls 5 Rodman 4 Reilly 5 Jakubiah 5
Ref 2 Southend 4
Crowd 3
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 19:03:57 GMT
Smith: 7. Couldn't be blamed for the goal and made two good saves. Is he the answer to our keeper problem though? Not for me and I really hope DC can get a good one in soon. We saw with Lumley how much if an impact that can make on the defending as a whole.
Leadbitter: 5. Flatters to deceive. Pacey and direct going forward, but seemingly can't cross a road. Defensively suspect and for me, Partington's return can't come soon enough. J Clarke: 6.5. Mr Consistent and player of the season so far. Did nothing wrong. Broadbent: 6. Did ok in the air for once but seems to have lost his composure on the ground. With his physique, he should be the dominant centre half people talk about, but he's not. Craig: 6. Quality centre half, but past it in the type of full back DC's teams have had, i.e. overlapping. Didn't do anything wrong but a left back on loan is as important as a goalie. Sadly, it seems the backing just isn't there for it.
Bennett: 6. Tried but nothing is happening for Kyle this season. Looks a shadow of the player we had last year although maybe he's just a performance away. Hope so. Upson: 3. Simply dreadful. He's a scrapper who doesn't work as hard as Sinclair, isn't as all round a player as Ollie Clarke and has none of Lines' creativity. Suspect DC's comments about taking reaponsibility may have been aimed at him given how often he gave the ball back to the centre half when we should have been looking to build attacks. Play him alongside Lines or Sercombe or not at all. O Clarke: 7.5 (MoM). Decent game, never stopped working. However, with no Lines in the side we have zero creativity and when he is available again, DC needs to get him back in the eleven and build around him in my opinion. Sercombe: 6. Did ok bit again, needs to play centrally as he offers little out wide. In fact, offers little when not scoring goals.
Nichols: 7. Lively in the first half and possibly a touch unlucky to be subbed. But, strikers have to be judged on goals. Payne: 5. Stupid booking and walked a tightrope after that. Largely ineffective however like Nichols, was starved of any decent service.
Rodman: 5.5. At fault for the goal as he failed to prevent or even delay the cross by ambling over. However, a weaving run into the box in each half gave glimpses of what he can do going forward. Reilly: 5.5. Showed some good signs and could be a useful addition. Time will tell whether he is a goalscorer or not though. Someone needs to be. Jakubiak: 5. Didn't see much from him but hard to criticise strikers on a day when no decent passes came to them.
Crowd: 4. Flat. Ref: 3. What have we done to deserve the clowns we've had at home so far? Dreadful. Was like watching Uriah Rennie all over again, such was his desire for the game to be all about him. To book the keeper in the 92nd minute for timewasting when they'd been doing it all through the 2nd half was the most pointless decision of all. Southend: 5. Credit them as the away team to restrict us to just two shots, but overall a poor, diving side. Worrying that we never looked good enough to get a point against that.
So, QPR. With the likely bodies available (assuming no Sincs, Partington, Lockyer, Sercombe and of course Lines), I'd go with Smith in goal (unless someone signs), back four of Leadbitter, Clarke, Craig and Kelly; midfield four of Russe, Clarke, Bennett, Rodman; with Nichols and possibly Mensah (to protect Payne from another booking) up top. UTG
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 19:05:06 GMT
I couldn't disagree more with most of this. I stand right next to the tunnel and trust me, not one player came off smiling at half time. In fact, Smith was giving verbals back to some idiot it the West Enclosure who was giving him stick. Opinions on players performance are very different to mine, but that of course is the beauty of it...we all have different opinions. But to insinuate players don't care is wrong. And what evidence is there that Bennett is disruptive?!!! Poor today yes, but... Sorry I meant when they returned to the pitch after the half time break, Bennett, Jakubiah, Mensah, Payne, Nichols! As you correctly state opinions differ and mine are what I saw and how I feel. I do respect your views though and I am sure we all want the same end product. Can't disagree with that!! UTG
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 19:19:05 GMT
Smith 4 Leadbitter 4 Broadbent 3 Craig 3 Clarke J 6 Upson 5 Clarke O 4 Sercombe NOLE Bennett 4 Nichols 6 Payne 4
Rodman 5 Jakubiak 5.5 Reilly 5.5
Ref 4 Crowd 2 Southend 4
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 25, 2018 19:42:41 GMT
Smith 4
leadbitter 3 J. Clarke 4 Broadbent 3 Craig 3
Bennett 3 Upson 2 - looks a complete was of time O. Clarke 4 Sercombe 4
Nichols 5 Payne 4
Subs: Rodman 2 Jakubiak 4 Reilly 4
Crowd 3 Ref 2 Southend 4
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Aug 25, 2018 20:18:55 GMT
Smith 4
Leadbitter 3 J. Clarke 6 Broadbent 4 Craig 3
Bennett 3 Upson 4 O. Clarke 3.5 Sercombe 5
Nichols 5 Payne 5
Subs: Rodman 3 Jakubiak 4 Reilly 5
Crowd 3 Ref 3 Southend 4
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Post by wilkimania on Aug 25, 2018 20:45:34 GMT
Smith 5
Leadbitter 4 (Knackered after an hour, but unfortunately had to stay out there due to the injury crisis. Save us Joe Partington) J. Clarke 7 (one of 2 players who seemed to try today) Broadbent 1 (Am I allowed to give players a 0? If so he can have one. Don't think he won a tackle or header that didn't immediately go straight to the opposition. Not sure he's a football league player let alone league 1) Craig 5
Bennett 2 (Quickly starting to see why the Pompey fans weren't too fussed to see him go. Has one moved which was figured out after 5 minutes and lost all impact after that.) Upson 5 (Clearly wants to move the ball around but impeded by a midfield that doesn't want to create any space forcing him to go backwards.) O. Clarke 1 (I have no idea how he gets into the team let alone was made captain in Lockyer's absence. Can't control a ball. Can't pass a ball. Doesn't tackle. Can somebody explain to me what he does? Made off a good few months during our first season in league 1 and been living off a myth since then.) Sercombe 6 (Only on 19 minutes. Was still 0-0 then. Please play him in the middle when everyone is fit.)
Nichols 6 (Would be helped massively by some sort of movement in the midfield. At the moment he's stuck doing the old Gaffney role of having to drop to try and get the midfield into the game. One day he will score.) Payne 5 (Smashing balls 4ft over his head aren't condusive to getting him in the game. Don't get how we figured out how to play to his strengths in the first two games and then stopped doing it in the 2 games that followed)
Subs: Rodman 5 Jakubiak 4 (Shaping up to be this years Telford. Comes on, doesn't do alot, game ends.) Reilly 6 (I like the look of him so far. Wouldn't mind seeing him Payne and Reilly could work together as a pairing that presses the defence further back.)
Crowd 5 Ref 3 Southend 5 (One of the worst teams I've seen come to the mem since Plymouth last season. The fact that we offered nothing against them is an embarrassment.)
The defence has been a weakness for the last few seasons so why the back 5 haven't been addressed is a mystery to me, most of our goals that we concede seem to come from simple patterns. Today's performance was the type we came to expect before Clarke took over, devoid of any passion or interest, pedestrian at best. Looked similar to the team that went down under Trolls the last time we were in League One.
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Post by cheamgas on Aug 25, 2018 21:26:08 GMT
Smith 5.5 - actually made a couple of good saves but poor kicking and did not inspire any confidence. Slocombe is far better.
Leadbitter 5 - some good pace at time but poor crossing and dodgy defending J. Clarke 6.5 - not a great game but reasonably sound and showed some attacking intent Broadbent 5 - not very commanding especially in the air. Seems to have lost confidence. Craig 4.5 - didn't impress as a full-back. Throw ins poor and adds not much going forward
Bennett 4.5 - very frustrating. Clearly has the ability to play consistently well but only showed glimpses of what he can do. Upson 5 - error strewn performance O. Clarke 4.5 - a few good moments but a very poor game. Did not show the leadership expected. One decent shot. Sercombe 5.5 - one good move in his short time on the pitch
Nichols 6 - played quite well in the first half. Great strike which hit the bar but a striker does have to score. Is also too lightweight for League1. Payne 5 - poor game today. Hampered by the early yellow card but could have been more effective
Subs: Rodman 5.5 - showed glimpses of what he can do with some good runs. With better dead ball deliveries we could have got something from the game Jakubiak 4 - looked totally out of his depth but wasn't helped by a very poor service Reilly 5 - looked dangerous a couple of times but looked a bit lost
Crowd 6 Ref 4 - another poor ref but could not blame him for the defeat Southend 4 - a poor side who could have had a bigger win but for Smith's two good saves and missing an open goal. Did not offer much apart from those efforts and it is frustrating that even an average performance from Rovers would have been good enough to secure all good points.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 25, 2018 21:48:55 GMT
I'm putting as much effort in as our team did today.
4 for everyone.
Utter sh**e.
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