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Post by markczgas on Oct 6, 2018 20:32:41 GMT
It's always gutting when your best players leave but this is nothing new. Rovers got about 1.5 million for Taylor, Bodin and Harrison but he did get a fair whack ( by Rovers standards to replace them). Nichols 350 k, Mensah 90/100 k and Payne 180-200 K so by my maths DC got about half the money to spend again - wish it was more of course but those signings have been pretty disastrous.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 20:37:52 GMT
Not the time for sacking DC, but Rochdales manager i do like, they always play good football whenever i have watched them, Doubt he has much of a budget either, and not much home support to get behind them. DC has until december if we're still in the bottom four the knives will out in force i fear
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 20:41:43 GMT
Not the time for sacking DC, but Rochdales manager i do like, they always play good football whenever i have watched them, Doubt he has much of a budget either, and not much home support to get behind them. DC has until december if we're still in the bottom four the knives will out in force i fear I think DC knows recruitment is a weak spot hence bringing in a specialist... and what has he done for us... not a lot apart from bringing his son into the fold.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Oct 6, 2018 20:45:03 GMT
I am not in the DC out camp, if you are a good manager then thats what you are, you dont become a bad manager overnight, some signings can be questioned but the truth is the first , second , and prob third choices dont want to come to us, reasons being obvious to all i.e ground and its lack of facilities, likewise training facilities and the like , what is there to attract good players? so we get stuck with 'panic buys'just to keep the numbers up, DC must be as frustrated as the rest of us when we can't get the players we really want. At the moment he is being let down on and off the pitch ,which ever 4 from 6 play in midfield are producing nothing and in mho that is where the problem lies.DC for your own sake its time for drastic action in that area, is Russe fit? any other development players ready?how far from fitness is Baghdadi?is any one out there!!!! cos they cant do any worse than whats on the pitch at moment!DC loyalty is an admirable trait but it works both ways and they are not rewarding your faith by doing it on the pitch, i will always give them my support but they need to show and produce the goods for us and you else it will cost you and the club ,try something fresh for your own sake! Cant criticize strikers (Nicholls excepted!) to much as they dont get enough bullets per game to fire , and defence seems much tighter now so its not all gloom,Come on DC make them big ,radical calls, you may be surprised by the results, cant be any worse can it! COME ON YOU BLUES! Russe is another Center midfielder ! What we need to do is play Bennet on the right, or Mathews on the left etc and create some width and opportunities will come for our forwards who are starved to death of anything decent coming from our overloaded compact Center midfield. Bringing in another central midfielder will only add to the problems we’ve already got.
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Post by socrates on Oct 6, 2018 20:46:12 GMT
Of course DC should stay. To suggest otherwise, without any serious suggestion as to who could do a better job and why is ridiculous. Ultimately, his comment about the past catching up with us by selling our best players is the biggeat reason we are where we are right now. It's not just us. Southampton have struggled at the top level since selling the likes of Mane, Lallana, Lambert, Schneiderlin, Van Dijk etc. We struggled when Ollie had to sell Beadle, Cureton, Hayles and Roberts. You can't keep expecting to find diamonds for next to nothing to replace them. But... Whilst I am a DC fan, I do believe there are two challenges that can be fairly put to him. One is the constant faith in Nichols who, whilst he has spells where he tries, hasn't looked likely to score in a year now. Sorry, but he's not good enough and for me, the time has come to play two of Payne/Reilly/Jakubiak instead. Secondly, he has still to sort out the conundrum of how to fit Lines and Sercombe into his team so that they both play centrally. That has become harder this season with Ollie Clarke's fine form making him possibly the first name on the team sheet. It seems to me that we need Ollie for his combativeness, we need Lines for his creativity and we need Sercombe for his goalscoring potential. The way to fit lines and sercombe together that we haven’t tried yet and I don’t know why is 4-2-3-1. Olly and lines defensive midfielders and with wide men either side of Sercombe who would play off of Payne or Reilly or jackubiak. I had a go on football manager on my pc looked at our players and played around with formations and went with this formation and I’m second in the league at Christmas . Yeah I know it’s a game but it’s a realistic one with the players attributes very accurate . I tell you one thing I haven’t played sercombe wide midfield once and why would I when he’s scored 10 goals already banging them in from the edge of the area in the number 10 role.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Oct 6, 2018 20:46:58 GMT
RUSSE or A.N OTHER would be instead of, not in addition to those who can't do the job!
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Post by daniel300380 on Oct 6, 2018 20:53:25 GMT
What manager could do better with our budget? Taylor, Bodin, Harrison. No manager at any level can have their best players sold season after season and not be effected Apart from one or two teams in the world, most sell there best player's. DC had more than a lot of manager's at this level to replace them. He spent a while chasing Nichols and paid over £300,000 for him. He's lucky they rejected the bid that included Luke James and he decided to go elsewhere. You can't put all the blame on the board. DC has spent about what he has received so far. Most clubs at this level don't reinvest all the money, especially when losing millions a season.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 20:53:52 GMT
It's always gutting when your best players leave but this is nothing new. Rovers got about 1.5 million for Taylor, Bodin and Harrison but he did get a fair whack ( by Rovers standards to replace them). Nichols 350 k, Mensah 90/100 k and Payne 180-200 K so by my maths DC got about half the money to spend again - wish it was more of course but those signings have been pretty disastrous. I agree to a point in that this nothing new and will probably continue to be the case for some time to come. But history tells us that it still catches you out in the end. I'm not necessarily blaming the board either...we all want him to be backed as much as possible without putting the club in danger, but who knows if this is the case or not? Nichols has been a disastrous signing, I agree. Mensah for me has potential and is one for the future rather than now. Witj Payne, I'm really not sure. The Payne who came on as sub v Coventry was a waste of space, but the Payne of the Accrington game could be an asset in future, particularly if we can give him service from out wide again. Too early to call on Mensah and Payne. Slightly off topic, but why do people use the Nichols signing as evidence that DC's recruitment is poor, yet fail to reference the free transfers such as Taylor, Bodin, Mansell, Sinclair, Lines etc that have been huge successes?
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Post by Gassy on Oct 6, 2018 20:56:06 GMT
I do love how players transfer fees increase when they’re doing badly - but when they’re doing well, their fee seems to get lower
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 20:58:58 GMT
Of course DC should stay. To suggest otherwise, without any serious suggestion as to who could do a better job and why is ridiculous. Ultimately, his comment about the past catching up with us by selling our best players is the biggeat reason we are where we are right now. It's not just us. Southampton have struggled at the top level since selling the likes of Mane, Lallana, Lambert, Schneiderlin, Van Dijk etc. We struggled when Ollie had to sell Beadle, Cureton, Hayles and Roberts. You can't keep expecting to find diamonds for next to nothing to replace them. But... Whilst I am a DC fan, I do believe there are two challenges that can be fairly put to him. One is the constant faith in Nichols who, whilst he has spells where he tries, hasn't looked likely to score in a year now. Sorry, but he's not good enough and for me, the time has come to play two of Payne/Reilly/Jakubiak instead. Secondly, he has still to sort out the conundrum of how to fit Lines and Sercombe into his team so that they both play centrally. That has become harder this season with Ollie Clarke's fine form making him possibly the first name on the team sheet. It seems to me that we need Ollie for his combativeness, we need Lines for his creativity and we need Sercombe for his goalscoring potential. The way to fit lines and sercombe together that we haven’t tried yet and I don’t know why is 4-2-3-1. Olly and lines defensive midfielders and with wide men either side of Sercombe who would play off of Payne or Reilly or jackubiak. I had a go on football manager on my pc looked at our players and played around with formations and went with this formation and I’m second in the league at Christmas . Yeah I know it’s a game but it’s a realistic one with the players attributes very accurate . I tell you one thing I haven’t played sercombe wide midfield once and why would I when he’s scored 10 goals already banging them in from the edge of the area in the number 10 role. Not sure I go along with the Football Manager bit, but absolutely agree with the formation. Either that or 4-3-1-2, with the three being Lines, Clarke and Sinclair, and the one being Sercombe. Unfortunately, both our formations mean we have no out and out wingers. But as ours don't ever go outside the full backs, no change there then. At least we'd have our best players on the pitch. One other thing that this season shows for me is how much we miss Lee Brown. And so does Kyle Bennett.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 6, 2018 21:01:12 GMT
I am not in the DC out camp, if you are a good manager then thats what you are, you dont become a bad manager overnight, some signings can be questioned but the truth is the first , second , and prob third choices dont want to come to us, reasons being obvious to all i.e ground and its lack of facilities, likewise training facilities and the like , what is there to attract good players? so we get stuck with 'panic buys'just to keep the numbers up, DC must be as frustrated as the rest of us when we can't get the players we really want. At the moment he is being let down on and off the pitch ,which ever 4 from 6 play in midfield are producing nothing and in mho that is where the problem lies.DC for your own sake its time for drastic action in that area, is Russe fit? any other development players ready?how far from fitness is Baghdadi?is any one out there!!!! cos they cant do any worse than whats on the pitch at moment!DC loyalty is an admirable trait but it works both ways and they are not rewarding your faith by doing it on the pitch, i will always give them my support but they need to show and produce the goods for us and you else it will cost you and the club ,try something fresh for your own sake! Cant criticize strikers (Nicholls excepted!) to much as they dont get enough bullets per game to fire , and defence seems much tighter now so its not all gloom,Come on DC make them big ,radical calls, you may be surprised by the results, cant be any worse can it! COME ON YOU BLUES! Russe is another Center midfielder ! What we need to do is play Bennet on the right, or Mathews on the left etc and create some width and opportunities will come for our forwards who are starved to death of anything decent coming from our overloaded compact Center midfield. Bringing in another central midfielder will only add to the problems we’ve already got. What we need is Bennet to get in his flash Range Rover and drive back to the south coast and never come back. He simply has no interest in doing anything in the final third of the pitch even though he's seem to have got all the tools in his locker, I sense he's determined to get DC sacked!! Matthews did more in 10 mins than Bennett did in the previous 80 mins. He's the most irritating player in the squad.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 6, 2018 21:10:48 GMT
It's always gutting when your best players leave but this is nothing new. Rovers got about 1.5 million for Taylor, Bodin and Harrison but he did get a fair whack ( by Rovers standards to replace them). Nichols 350 k, Mensah 90/100 k and Payne 180-200 K so by my maths DC got about half the money to spend again - wish it was more of course but those signings have been pretty disastrous. I agree to a point in that this nothing new and will probably continue to be the case for some time to come. But history tells us that it still catches you out in the end. I'm not necessarily blaming the board either...we all want him to be backed as much as possible without putting the club in danger, but who knows if this is the case or not? Nichols has been a disastrous signing, I agree. Mensah for me has potential and is one for the future rather than now. Witj Payne, I'm really not sure. The Payne who came on as sub v Coventry was a waste of space, but the Payne of the Accrington game could be an asset in future, particularly if we can give him service from out wide again. Too early to call on Mensah and Payne. Slightly off topic, but why do people use the Nichols signing as evidence that DC's recruitment is poor, yet fail to reference the free transfers such as Taylor, Bodin, Mansell, Sinclair, Lines etc that have been huge successes? Nichols, Mensah & Payne were all, by our recent standards, big money signings, Taylor & co were just one of numerous cheap signings, whilst DC could sign 3 or 4 cheap players like Taylor and hope one made it, he only really gets the one chance with big ticket signings. Plus apart from Sercs & Parts, possibly Craig & Moore, most of his better signings were made way back in the Conference era.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 21:18:09 GMT
Russe is another Center midfielder ! What we need to do is play Bennet on the right, or Mathews on the left etc and create some width and opportunities will come for our forwards who are starved to death of anything decent coming from our overloaded compact Center midfield. Bringing in another central midfielder will only add to the problems we’ve already got. What we need is Bennet to get in his flash Range Rover and drive back to the south coast and never come back. He simply has no interest in doing anything in the final third of the pitch even though he's seem to have got all the tools in his locker, I sense he's determined to get DC sacked!! Matthews did more in 10 mins than Bennett did in the previous 80 mins. He's the most irritating player in the squad. Kenny Jacket is a decent manager and shipped Bennett out for a reason - and now we all that reason; ball skill trickery but no end product. A waste of time!
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Post by midlandgas213 on Oct 6, 2018 21:30:16 GMT
I am not in the DC out camp, if you are a good manager then thats what you are, you dont become a bad manager overnight, some signings can be questioned but the truth is the first , second , and prob third choices dont want to come to us, reasons being obvious to all i.e ground and its lack of facilities, likewise training facilities and the like , what is there to attract good players? so we get stuck with 'panic buys'just to keep the numbers up, DC must be as frustrated as the rest of us when we can't get the players we really want. At the moment he is being let down on and off the pitch ,which ever 4 from 6 play in midfield are producing nothing and in mho that is where the problem lies.DC for your own sake its time for drastic action in that area, is Russe fit? any other development players ready?how far from fitness is Baghdadi?is any one out there!!!! cos they cant do any worse than whats on the pitch at moment!DC loyalty is an admirable trait but it works both ways and they are not rewarding your faith by doing it on the pitch, i will always give them my support but they need to show and produce the goods for us and you else it will cost you and the club ,try something fresh for your own sake! Cant criticize strikers (Nicholls excepted!) to much as they dont get enough bullets per game to fire , and defence seems much tighter now so its not all gloom,Come on DC make them big ,radical calls, you may be surprised by the results, cant be any worse can it! COME ON YOU BLUES! he did not become a bad manager overnight , it has been most of this year that he has gone downhill
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Post by aghast on Oct 6, 2018 21:34:14 GMT
From his radio interview the people who need questioning are the owners and chairman All conspicuous by their absence! Wael and his family were there today. They took up two parking spaces. ![](https://defence-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/turkish-otokar-cobra-2-4x4-e1457094089237.jpg)
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 6, 2018 21:37:11 GMT
I am not in the DC out camp, if you are a good manager then thats what you are, you dont become a bad manager overnight, some signings can be questioned but the truth is the first , second , and prob third choices dont want to come to us, reasons being obvious to all i.e ground and its lack of facilities, likewise training facilities and the like , what is there to attract good players? so we get stuck with 'panic buys'just to keep the numbers up, DC must be as frustrated as the rest of us when we can't get the players we really want. At the moment he is being let down on and off the pitch ,which ever 4 from 6 play in midfield are producing nothing and in mho that is where the problem lies.DC for your own sake its time for drastic action in that area, is Russe fit? any other development players ready?how far from fitness is Baghdadi?is any one out there!!!! cos they cant do any worse than whats on the pitch at moment!DC loyalty is an admirable trait but it works both ways and they are not rewarding your faith by doing it on the pitch, i will always give them my support but they need to show and produce the goods for us and you else it will cost you and the club ,try something fresh for your own sake! Cant criticize strikers (Nicholls excepted!) to much as they dont get enough bullets per game to fire , and defence seems much tighter now so its not all gloom,Come on DC make them big ,radical calls, you may be surprised by the results, cant be any worse can it! COME ON YOU BLUES! She did not become a bad manager overnight , it has been most of this year that he has gone downhill Out of interest did you go to the match today? How many games have you watched this season?
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Oct 6, 2018 21:39:34 GMT
DC has to stay.
The problems at Bristol Rovers are above DC.
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Post by midlandgas213 on Oct 6, 2018 21:44:19 GMT
She did not become a bad manager overnight , it has been most of this year that he has gone downhill Out of interest did you go to the match today? How many games have you watched this season? No I won't go to the mem whilst he is still there, and the only game I have been to was at Shrewsbury that was more than enough
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Post by midlandgas213 on Oct 6, 2018 21:46:16 GMT
Just listened to the after game interview it's the same excuses every week What he does not realise that everything on the pitch is down to him and it is not good enough
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Oct 6, 2018 21:50:58 GMT
Music to your ears all this eh Midland. Not really he should have gone at the end of last season all of the pain is being suffered by the club and us fans. i just cannot understand why they have not got rid of him all other clubs in our situation he would have been sacked ages ago Really ? Back to back promotions followed by 2 mid table finishes & all other clubs would have sacked their manager ?
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