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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 18:11:50 GMT
Turned off at 'We'll dust ourselves down"
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Post by tbonegas on Oct 6, 2018 18:11:55 GMT
After today I will out myself in the DC has to go camp, as were most of the people around me on the terrace today. Why? Well firstly the recruitment, both last year and this year. Nichols today looked uninterested and would struggle to get in to a Southern League Side, and no way is he going to "turn it around". He should not play in the first team again, and sadly that means saying goodbye to £350,000. Then to try and get us out of the sh** he plays "the old guard" and whilst this is sacrilege Sinclair is not a quick passing attacking player, why is he playing out wide? Because their is no place for him in the middle, or any of the 5 other centre midfielders we have. Upson, did we need him? Apparently not, because we have Sercombe who really does need to be in the middle, along with Clarke and Lines. Most clubs have 4 central midfielders and 3 or 4 wide players. Us? ONE wide player and SEVEN central players. Then the left back. firstly he signs an injured player with a hope that he comes good, however I think most people recognise that players are never quite so good after a major injury. But then the add insult to injury he then signs a bog standard left back from Stevenages reserves, another signing we didn't need. Then up front, what a pigs ear he has made of that. If we had not have signed Upson then we could have signed a better forward than Payne. In fact if he didn't have such a large squad we could afford to sign better players. As for saying he hasn't been backed, that is not correct, he has just spunked the money he has been given on a totally useless forward, a three signings last January, one of which had had to go out on loan because we have reached our EFL spending limit. People keep saying he needs more money, but he cannot spend anymore than the rules allow. Meanwhile Accrington show how to be successful on the lowest budget in the league. DC brought us here, but he is incapable of taking us further And that is it. In a nutshell.
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Post by dinsdale on Oct 6, 2018 18:24:53 GMT
Radio Bristol mentioned just now that there's definite takeover interest. Just interest? A few weeks back all the ITKers were suggesting all was done and dusted to be announced in October Appreciate the month’s just started but seems a bit of a difference between interest and a done deal Pretty sure only one person said October, i said a takeovers going through
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Post by dinsdale on Oct 6, 2018 18:29:44 GMT
My worry about DC is that we have appauling pre seasons year after year and i keep expecting him to do things differently but nope...
He hasnt had great backing off the board but the money he has spent he has completely wasted. That aside now is not time to change lets give him a little longer after all he has achieved so much for us.
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 6, 2018 18:56:13 GMT
Just got back and haven’t read it all. FWIW it wasn’t all bad today. I thought the CHs did well but the FBs went missing esp LB for the goal. Midfield wasn’t too bad and for all the stuff that’s said about Nicholls he gave it his all as did Reilly. I wish DC would play players on their strongest side and stop playing left footers on right and vice versa. If that happened perhaps we’d get some first time shots in. You couldn’t fault them for effort and they gave everything and thank goodness SS is back. They were all playing for D.C. so any talk about getting rid of him is silly. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 6, 2018 18:58:27 GMT
Music to your ears all this eh Midland. Not really he should have gone at the end of last season all of the pain is being suffered by the club and us fans. i just cannot understand why they have not got rid of him all other clubs in our situation he would have been sacked ages agoWith him only 2 and a bit years into a 5 year contract? That doesn’t and won’t happen, he was given a 5 year contract for a reason. come on DC. UTG!
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 6, 2018 19:01:08 GMT
Just got back and haven’t read it all. FWIW it wasn’t all bad today. I thought the CHs did well but the FBs went missing esp LB for the goal. Midfield wasn’t too bad and for all the stuff that’s said about Nicholls he gave it his all as did Reilly. I wish DC would play players on their strongest side and stop playing left footers on right and vice versa. If that happened perhaps we’d get some first time shots in. You couldn’t fault them for effort and they gave everything and thank goodness SS is back. They were all playing for D.C. so any talk about getting rid of him is silly. UTG! Blimey, I thought the 2 Clarke's and Bonham aside we were poor today. Attendance will drop further if that's what we have to watch every week.
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Post by socrates on Oct 6, 2018 19:05:38 GMT
Just got back and haven’t read it all. FWIW it wasn’t all bad today. I thought the CHs did well but the FBs went missing esp LB for the goal. Midfield wasn’t too bad and for all the stuff that’s said about Nicholls he gave it his all as did Reilly. I wish DC would play players on their strongest side and stop playing left footers on right and vice versa. If that happened perhaps we’d get some first time shots in. You couldn’t fault them for effort and they gave everything and thank goodness SS is back. They were all playing for D.C. so any talk about getting rid of him is silly. UTG! Blimey, I thought the 2 Clarke's and Bonham aside we were poor today. Attendance will drop further if that's what we have to watch every week. If that shot by Mathews had been an inch to the left we would have won 1-0 Fine lines. But I agree with other posters , the footballs too narrow I think we’ve got a mid table squad but need how to learn to use the width of the pitch and until that happens we are crap and too easy to defend against.
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 6, 2018 19:09:25 GMT
Craig was good, despite his medium size he won a lot of balls in the air and you could see why we’ve kept almost 3 clean sheets. A very good keeper always helps. Better quality balls into the box would have helped but so often players didn’t get behind their defence. When they did we caused them problems...sadly not enough. And as Socrates has just said, hitting the bar and then falling to a sucker punch, fine lines indeed. UTG!
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Post by rememberhalifax on Oct 6, 2018 19:14:55 GMT
I am not in the DC out camp, if you are a good manager then thats what you are, you dont become a bad manager overnight, some signings can be questioned but the truth is the first , second , and prob third choices dont want to come to us, reasons being obvious to all i.e ground and its lack of facilities, likewise training facilities and the like , what is there to attract good players? so we get stuck with 'panic buys'just to keep the numbers up, DC must be as frustrated as the rest of us when we can't get the players we really want. At the moment he is being let down on and off the pitch ,which ever 4 from 6 play in midfield are producing nothing and in mho that is where the problem lies.DC for your own sake its time for drastic action in that area, is Russe fit? any other development players ready?how far from fitness is Baghdadi?is any one out there!!!! cos they cant do any worse than whats on the pitch at moment!DC loyalty is an admirable trait but it works both ways and they are not rewarding your faith by doing it on the pitch, i will always give them my support but they need to show and produce the goods for us and you else it will cost you and the club ,try something fresh for your own sake! Cant criticize strikers (Nicholls excepted!) to much as they dont get enough bullets per game to fire , and defence seems much tighter now so its not all gloom,Come on DC make them big ,radical calls, you may be surprised by the results, cant be any worse can it! COME ON YOU BLUES!
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Post by socrates on Oct 6, 2018 19:28:24 GMT
I am not in the DC out camp, if you are a good manager then thats what you are, you dont become a bad manager overnight, some signings can be questioned but the truth is the first , second , and prob third choices dont want to come to us, reasons being obvious to all i.e ground and its lack of facilities, likewise training facilities and the like , what is there to attract good players? so we get stuck with 'panic buys'just to keep the numbers up, DC must be as frustrated as the rest of us when we can't get the players we really want. At the moment he is being let down on and off the pitch ,which ever 4 from 6 play in midfield are producing nothing and in mho that is where the problem lies.DC for your own sake its time for drastic action in that area, is Russe fit? any other development players ready?how far from fitness is Baghdadi?is any one out there!!!! cos they cant do any worse than whats on the pitch at moment!DC loyalty is an admirable trait but it works both ways and they are not rewarding your faith by doing it on the pitch, i will always give them my support but they need to show and produce the goods for us and you else it will cost you and the club ,try something fresh for your own sake! Cant criticize strikers (Nicholls excepted!) to much as they dont get enough bullets per game to fire , and defence seems much tighter now so its not all gloom,Come on DC make them big ,radical calls, you may be surprised by the results, cant be any worse can it! COME ON YOU BLUES! Russe is another Center midfielder ! What we need to do is play Bennet on the right, or Mathews on the left etc and create some width and opportunities will come for our forwards who are starved to death of anything decent coming from our overloaded compact Center midfield. Bringing in another central midfielder will only add to the problems we’ve already got.
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Post by romangas on Oct 6, 2018 19:29:04 GMT
... the DC out brigade must be blind. Marcus Stewart would surely go with him if that happened, and no doubt a few other trusted staff. The whole club would be in a far worse situation.
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 6, 2018 19:52:13 GMT
From his radio interview the people who need questioning are the owners and chairman All conspicuous by their absence! Wael and his family were there today.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 19:56:21 GMT
From his radio interview the people who need questioning are the owners and chairman All conspicuous by their absence! Wael and his family were there today. A vote of confidence for the Manager on Monday? Probably not, just continual silence on all things Bristol Rovers.
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Post by paulpirate on Oct 6, 2018 20:05:37 GMT
I know things aren't great right now but let's not get silly. What's going to change if we get a new manager? If anything we'll get worse I imagine. It's the same board. I still have faith that DC is the best manager for the club, it's just a shame he's managed us under horrendous conditions. Whilst Higgs and Co did f all off the pitch, I feel they would have backed DC more than the AQ family have. would they?
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Post by pucklegas on Oct 6, 2018 20:13:39 GMT
DC will turn it around who could we get, likes of Mad dog Allen, Keith curle, Gary Johnson and Pete Beadle 😂😂
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Post by stevek192 on Oct 6, 2018 20:14:20 GMT
You can only back the club with Money you have and the old brigade had run out of funds.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 20:21:14 GMT
Of course DC should stay. To suggest otherwise, without any serious suggestion as to who could do a better job and why is ridiculous. Ultimately, his comment about the past catching up with us by selling our best players is the biggeat reason we are where we are right now. It's not just us. Southampton have struggled at the top level since selling the likes of Mane, Lallana, Lambert, Schneiderlin, Van Dijk etc. We struggled when Ollie had to sell Beadle, Cureton, Hayles and Roberts. You can't keep expecting to find diamonds for next to nothing to replace them.
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Whilst I am a DC fan, I do believe there are two challenges that can be fairly put to him. One is the constant faith in Nichols who, whilst he has spells where he tries, hasn't looked likely to score in a year now. Sorry, but he's not good enough and for me, the time has come to play two of Payne/Reilly/Jakubiak instead.
Secondly, he has still to sort out the conundrum of how to fit Lines and Sercombe into his team so that they both play centrally. That has become harder this season with Ollie Clarke's fine form making him possibly the first name on the team sheet. It seems to me that we need Ollie for his combativeness, we need Lines for his creativity and we need Sercombe for his goalscoring potential.
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 6, 2018 20:24:57 GMT
I know we are in a crap run of form and everything about our club is on a downer but sacking DC isnt the answer IMO.
There are clearly off the field problems or movements, we will never know what just yet, but it’s clearly having an effect on the field.
The one thing we need is some stability and sacking DC won’t do that. If anyone thinks that by sacking him we will go out and get a known quantity then I don’t think that would be the case. Stewart or Hargreaves would likely step up. No manager would want to come in now, we are months from a transfer window, and it’s doubtful that person would get more from the squad than DC will.
And if we did sack DC, who really could we lure to take us to the next level? It would have to be an unattached manager as I doubt we would be able to stump up any compensation.
And Ollie is not the answer.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 20:28:08 GMT
I doubt we’ll win no more than three matches until transfer window opens. We have four strikers that are no better than what we had in conference. Bennett and Rodman no better than Monty or Moore - all four lack/ed final balls - serve a purpose; Gosling would get in this team. Best players are Ollie, Lines and Sinclair because they care. Matthews has looked decent in every game I’ve seen him but rarely gets on. Parts and Sercs will do jobs but not played to their strengths. Without Bonham we’d be bottom of the league. Squad defence is slow and clunky apart from Leads who disappoints whenever he plays - has pace but never uses it correctly. Should DC go? Hope not, as he will be learning far more about his team and himself this season than any other. Maybe needs a jolt and a bit of self reflection as he appears stubborn and I wonder how much he is open to advice from Marcus or other back room because mistakes are being repeated this year as last e.g. preseason, etc. Would rather have DC in L2 than anyone else other than Steve Evans-that horrid sweaty man sure knows how to get teams promoted.
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