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Post by Congas on Oct 7, 2018 7:58:52 GMT
The whole team looks demotivated. I firmly believe that this is down to the fact that the BoD have promised all this revolution rubbish and are clearly not delivering. DC has probably sold the club to some of the players saying they will be in a new training facility and ground blah blah blah. Now, even the players are seeing the BS that is being fed from the top down. Ollie won't come back be he is only any good when he has vast amounts of cash at his disposal. Plus, I don't want him back as I don't think he would do any better. We need clarity from the owners and that is something I dont think we will ever get Evolution, wasn't it?
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 7, 2018 8:07:58 GMT
The takeover/cash injection is a ruse or distraction because DC had over 4 months to buy a left back, he didn't. He knew we had a keeping crisis, he had to resort to loan. We also desperately need width and winger, we only brought one in. Rodman. Whom everybody liked. We recruited only two strikers, and a loan whom all seem to partner the one striker that cannot score, and to top the lot the few games we played at start saw us play one up front!(?). DC has to take responsibility for these mistakes and consequently our league position. Admittedly, injury hasn't helped, but every manager has those issues. DC signed THD, I assume with agreement from the HoR, of even on his advice, as LB, it's not clear why he's still unfit, nor why Martin is so poor. Not sure what's relevance Bonham being a loan player is, when he's the best goalie we've had for year. If we all thought Rodman was a good signing is it really DC's fault he appears to have serious personal issues/or is just off form. Likewise why's Payne so poor does he regret joining such a poorly run club? Matthew's, when fit, looks a decent right winger. Really a useful striker. Although it really is fine margins in Div 1 as if Matthew's had scored late on yesterday we'd now be in mid table this morning!
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 7, 2018 8:36:26 GMT
The whole team looks demotivated. I firmly believe that this is down to the fact that the BoD have promised all this revolution rubbish and are clearly not delivering. DC has probably sold the club to some of the players saying they will be in a new training facility and ground blah blah blah. Now, even the players are seeing the BS that is being fed from the top down. Ollie won't come back be he is only any good when he has vast amounts of cash at his disposal. Plus, I don't want him back as I don't think he would do any better. We need clarity from the owners and that is something I dont think we will ever get Agree with some but I thought one of the main points of the fans was that the AQs promised evolution, not revolution. If everyone thought they had been promised revolution then I could understand it. But you’re right at the end, I don’t think we’ll hear much from them because they know we are a fanbase who hold what people say to account and on here are likely to produce a 50 page thread castigating them if they don’t do it. So silence is likely! UTG! ps sorry Congas, just seen your post.
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Post by midlandgas213 on Oct 7, 2018 8:39:39 GMT
No I won't go to the mem whilst he is still there, and the only game I have been to was at Shrewsbury that was more than enough And that, Midland, is why your opinions on the footballing side of the club are of limited value. Just like my opinions would be if I were to comment on, say, Notts County's season this year. I am retired and it costs me about £100 a time to watch them at the mem , money I am not prepared to spend watching the rubbish he throws out all I have to do is look at the results and the league table to see how bad we are doing never mind looking at the players marks out of 10 and other comments put on here by other fans
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Post by midlandgas213 on Oct 7, 2018 8:40:37 GMT
Not really he should have gone at the end of last season all of the pain is being suffered by the club and us fans. i just cannot understand why they have not got rid of him all other clubs in our situation he would have been sacked ages ago Really ? Back to back promotions followed by 2 mid table finishes & all other clubs would have sacked their manager ? That's history you are only as good or as bad as your last game or in this case this season
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 8:45:22 GMT
Jackett has got two teams out of League One, and likely to be there come May. Just the one for Cook. Trouble is he keeps resigning when the going gets tough or gets sacked. So for me its paul cook every time. Are portsmouth pretty much promoted already? No but they're in a great position. Jackett is clearly a class act regardless.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 8:50:07 GMT
DC deserves the chance to turn our season around after all he has done for us. Talk of sacking him is nonsense IMHO. I completley agree, Im DC's biggest fan but something is very,very wrong right now at our club and it goes far deeper than the on the pitch side of things. DC's comments after yesterdays game was the clearest sign yet that the problem stems from the boardroom level.I think we have been sold a pack of hope, not lies by our owners and what DC said about our red friends from over the river and us is so true. Really? I would argue that the problem is absolutely on the pitch and that we've got a squad which isn't good enough, despite reasonable investment. We know things aren't great off if but the issue here is the quality of side and our inability to create chances and score.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 7, 2018 8:52:05 GMT
The takeover/cash injection is a ruse or distraction because DC had over 4 months to buy a left back, he didn't. He knew we had a keeping crisis, he had to resort to loan. We also desperately need width and winger, we only brought one in. Rodman. Whom everybody liked. We recruited only two strikers, and a loan whom all seem to partner the one striker that cannot score, and to top the lot the few games we played at start saw us play one up front!(?). DC has to take responsibility for these mistakes and consequently our league position. Admittedly, injury hasn't helped, but every manager has those issues. DC signed THD, I assume with agreement from the HoR, of even on his advice, as LB, it's not clear why he's still unfit, nor why Martin is so poor. Not sure what's relevance Bonham being a loan player is, when he's the best goalie we've had for year. If we all thought Rodman was a good signing is it really DC's fault he appears to have serious personal issues/or is just off form. Likewise why's Payne so poor does he regret joining such a poorly run club? Matthew's, when fit, looks a decent right winger. Really a useful striker. Although it really is fine margins in Div 1 as if Matthew's had scored late on yesterday we'd now be in mid table this morning! We might be mid table, but isn't that just papering over the cracks that I've highlighted? The relevance of loan keeper is we again miss the start of the season with a recognised confident keeper that has had a full pre season with an established defence....which already pointed out, the only left back recruited isn't anywhere near match fit. Smith and Slocombe form doesn't even compare to Bonham, but there were fierce critics of both last season so why wasn't there a move to sort it before start?
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Post by midlandgas213 on Oct 7, 2018 8:55:34 GMT
I completley agree, Im DC's biggest fan but something is very,very wrong right now at our club and it goes far deeper than the on the pitch side of things. DC's comments after yesterdays game was the clearest sign yet that the problem stems from the boardroom level.I think we have been sold a pack of hope, not lies by our owners and what DC said about our red friends from over the river and us is so true. Really? I would argue that the problem is absolutely on the pitch and that we've got a squad which isn't good enough, despite reasonable investment. We know things aren't great off if but the issue here is the quality of side and our inability to create chances and score. Abecause he plays players out of position , chops and changes the team every week so how can any of them build an understanding and partnership he has totally lost the plot and is hoping that more by luck than judgement that he may score the odd goal or pick up the odd point in the meantime we all suffer cus of one mans inability to manager properly
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Oct 7, 2018 11:51:48 GMT
Really ? Back to back promotions followed by 2 mid table finishes & all other clubs would have sacked their manager ? That's history you are only as good or as bad as your last game or in this case this season Can't argue with that my point was that given his record over 4 years there's no way any club would have sacked him over the summer. As I'm sure you've worked out I'm in the DC to stay camp given his record I think he's earned the right to turn things around.
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Post by markczgas on Oct 7, 2018 12:05:31 GMT
It's always gutting when your best players leave but this is nothing new. Rovers got about 1.5 million for Taylor, Bodin and Harrison but he did get a fair whack ( by Rovers standards to replace them). Nichols 350 k, Mensah 90/100 k and Payne 180-200 K so by my maths DC got about half the money to spend again - wish it was more of course but those signings have been pretty disastrous. I agree to a point in that this nothing new and will probably continue to be the case for some time to come. But history tells us that it still catches you out in the end. I'm not necessarily blaming the board either...we all want him to be backed as much as possible without putting the club in danger, but who knows if this is the case or not? Nichols has been a disastrous signing, I agree. Mensah for me has potential and is one for the future rather than now. Witj Payne, I'm really not sure. The Payne who came on as sub v Coventry was a waste of space, but the Payne of the Accrington game could be an asset in future, particularly if we can give him service from out wide again. Too early to call on Mensah and Payne. Slightly off topic, but why do people use the Nichols signing as evidence that DC's recruitment is poor, yet fail to reference the free transfers such as Taylor, Bodin, Mansell, Sinclair, Lines etc that have been huge successes? Just to let you know that Mensah can't even get in a L2 team - have a check.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 7, 2018 12:08:47 GMT
I agree to a point in that this nothing new and will probably continue to be the case for some time to come. But history tells us that it still catches you out in the end. I'm not necessarily blaming the board either...we all want him to be backed as much as possible without putting the club in danger, but who knows if this is the case or not? Nichols has been a disastrous signing, I agree. Mensah for me has potential and is one for the future rather than now. Witj Payne, I'm really not sure. The Payne who came on as sub v Coventry was a waste of space, but the Payne of the Accrington game could be an asset in future, particularly if we can give him service from out wide again. Too early to call on Mensah and Payne. Slightly off topic, but why do people use the Nichols signing as evidence that DC's recruitment is poor, yet fail to reference the free transfers such as Taylor, Bodin, Mansell, Sinclair, Lines etc that have been huge successes? Just to let you know that Mensah can't even get in a L2 team - have a check. To be fair, Lincoln are probably a much better team than us, atm.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 12:39:32 GMT
And that, Midland, is why your opinions on the footballing side of the club are of limited value. Just like my opinions would be if I were to comment on, say, Notts County's season this year. I am retired and it costs me about £100 a time to watch them at the mem , money I am not prepared to spend watching the rubbish he throws out all I have to do is look at the results and the league table to see how bad we are doing never mind looking at the players marks out of 10 and other comments put on here by other fans I do understand the difficulties posed by geography and cost. My apologies if my comments ignored that fact. No offence intended. I was merely (if clumsily) making the point that any football related opinion is second hand and therefore not based on what you see for yourself. What some of us see (and accepting that it's all about opinions) is a team that isn't far away from being decent enough to compete at this level. There are problems to iron out, for sure, but we're down and out yet!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 12:41:15 GMT
I agree to a point in that this nothing new and will probably continue to be the case for some time to come. But history tells us that it still catches you out in the end. I'm not necessarily blaming the board either...we all want him to be backed as much as possible without putting the club in danger, but who knows if this is the case or not? Nichols has been a disastrous signing, I agree. Mensah for me has potential and is one for the future rather than now. Witj Payne, I'm really not sure. The Payne who came on as sub v Coventry was a waste of space, but the Payne of the Accrington game could be an asset in future, particularly if we can give him service from out wide again. Too early to call on Mensah and Payne. Slightly off topic, but why do people use the Nichols signing as evidence that DC's recruitment is poor, yet fail to reference the free transfers such as Taylor, Bodin, Mansell, Sinclair, Lines etc that have been huge successes? Just to let you know that Mensah can't even get in a L2 team - have a check. Accepted, but he was never going to be Bodin's instant replacement. He's one for the future. Personally, I'd have liked him to have stayed with us to compete with Stefan Payne for the no9 spot.
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Post by readinggas on Oct 7, 2018 12:45:01 GMT
If we go back to Oct 6th last season until today we have won 12. If we go back 23 games (half a season) we have won 4. One this shows our form has been poor for a long time, and there is no doubt about it, it is relegation form
This is the crux of it.
Yet we keep seeing a striker who couldn't score in a Thai brothel continually played up front and other players out-of-position.
DC has done so much for the club but the team selection is baffling. He is frittering away goodwill at an alarming rate. Has the ship's captian gone barmy?
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Post by lpgas on Oct 7, 2018 13:37:46 GMT
If we go back to Oct 6th last season until today we have won 12. If we go back 23 games (half a season) we have won 4. One this shows our form has been poor for a long time, and there is no doubt about it, it is relegation form
This is the crux of it.
Yet we keep seeing a striker who couldn't score in a Thai brothel continually played up front and other players out-of-position.
DC has done so much for the club but the team selection is baffling. He is frittering away goodwill at an alarming rate. Has the ship's captian gone barmy?
Well we do sing "Barmy Army"
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Post by pirate on Oct 7, 2018 14:03:44 GMT
Just to let you know that Mensah can't even get in a L2 team - have a check. Accepted, but he was never going to be Bodin's instant replacement. He's one for the future. Personally, I'd have liked him to have stayed with us to compete with Stefan Payne for the no9 spot. Even though he has played the majority of his career as a wide player? The times he has played through the middle he has scored 4 goals in 23 appearances, all in the National League. I was expecting more of an impact from him, but so far in the very limited game time he has had with us I haven't seen anything from him if I'm honest. And he obviously isn't doing enough to force himself into the Lincoln team in the league below either, albeit a good team top of the league.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 14:06:28 GMT
Trouble is he keeps resigning when the going gets tough or gets sacked. So for me its paul cook every time. Are portsmouth pretty much promoted already? No but they're in a great position. Jackett is clearly a class act regardless. The point i was trying to make was that one good manager liked bennett and the other didnt. Thats how it goes sometimes for players.
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Post by Strange Gas on Oct 7, 2018 14:07:43 GMT
If we go back to Oct 6th last season until today we have won 12. If we go back 23 games (half a season) we have won 4. One this shows our form has been poor for a long time, and there is no doubt about it, it is relegation form
This is the crux of it.
Yet we keep seeing a striker who couldn't score in a Thai brothel continually played up front and other players out-of-position.
DC has done so much for the club but the team selection is baffling. He is frittering away goodwill at an alarming rate. Has the ship's captian gone barmy?
Radio interview last night was an interesting insight to DCs somewhat barmy mindset - he claimed the issue is what he sees in training from players not being shown in matches and he appears to pick the team based on what he sees on training pitch. No sh**! I don’t understand why he doesn’t just select team based on match performance. Sure he needs to assess fitness but it’s what they do in a game that matters surely, not the potential they show in an artificial situation. Weird. Although I still think he is best man for the job for now . . .
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Post by lpgas on Oct 7, 2018 14:10:01 GMT
... the DC out brigade must be blind. Marcus Stewart would surely go with him if that happened, and no doubt a few other trusted staff. The whole club would be in a far worse situation. another Remoaner !
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