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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2018 21:32:52 GMT
His distribution is absolutely dreadful. A footballer that cannot pass a football, really isn't that useful. Average / below league 1 defender I reckon. Was great for us in the conference good in league 2 but bang average league 1 at the moment which is fine because he’s young and might well become a championship player at some point but at the moment not good enough for that level , no where near. That's fair enough, but why do you think he is unappreciated, given what he has achieved with us?
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 20, 2018 21:34:35 GMT
Agree that James Clarke can consider himself unlucky to be dropped. He's had ab excellent season. But that's the nature of football and a consequence of depth in a squad. Bonham's been a good signing, but he had little to do today. That was partly due to the excellent performances of Lockyer and Craig. But then for some reason, plenty don't rate either of them. Think they deserve credit for a good, solid clean sheet today. The highlights on Sky paint a different picture to the game as Oxford were completely bereft of ideas going forward and rarely threatened. Craig and Locks marshalled their attack excellently all game IMO and Kelly and Parts also played a key part. Did you miss the first half? We cleared one shot off the line, Bonham made one, possibly two, saves where Smith would have conceded and Oxford hit the inside of the post. Bonham is brilliantly covering up our defensive weaknesses, long may it continue!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2018 21:34:51 GMT
I think the OP was aimed at you. Why don’t you see what the rest of us see? Hardly aimed at me as I hardly ever mention him normally, although as I had said if Locks is so good why does Bonham have to bring off 2 or 3 worldies each game? We're lucky Bonham is covering for our defensive weaknesses or we could well be bottom and looking like relegation certainties. Can confirm not aimed at anyone in particular! Although post inspired by hearing some guy slating him whilst leaving the ground. I thought Tom had a stormer today.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 20, 2018 21:55:57 GMT
Thought Tom had a good game today.
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Oct 20, 2018 22:39:04 GMT
Why is Tom Lockyer so unappreciated by Rovers fans? Here is a still young player who has come through our youth set up after release from Cardiff. That in itself is usually a passport to affection from the terraces. But on top of that, he has made the best part of 250 appearances by the age of 22. That displays a remarkable amount of consistency for one so young. He is our captain already, one who displays exemplary behaviour and is a great ambassador for our club. He is regularly part of the Wales international squad and looks set to gain plenty of caps for his country in future. Better judges than all of us in the form of Darrell Clarke, Chris Coleman and Ryan Giggs clearly see something in him. Most clubs would be proud of such a player. So, why is he so unappreciated by Rovers fans? Without reading the thread bar the o.p. I’ll give my view on Tom. He’s awful. Before and I won’t go in to captaincy. Mistake waiting to happen every ball over the top ( from them) he don’t attack. He can’t read the ball, let’s it bounce and puts himself under neccasry pressure. Look at the center backs our strikers are against. Look at our center backs we rely on. Steve Elliott v Tom lockyer won’t last 10 seconds. Look forward to other views but...... Bottom line he is sh**.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Oct 20, 2018 22:40:30 GMT
Why is Tom Lockyer so unappreciated by Rovers fans? Here is a still young player who has come through our youth set up after release from Cardiff. That in itself is usually a passport to affection from the terraces. But on top of that, he has made the best part of 250 appearances by the age of 22. That displays a remarkable amount of consistency for one so young. He is our captain already, one who displays exemplary behaviour and is a great ambassador for our club. He is regularly part of the Wales international squad and looks set to gain plenty of caps for his country in future. Better judges than all of us in the form of Darrell Clarke, Chris Coleman and Ryan Giggs clearly see something in him. Most clubs would be proud of such a player. So, why is he so unappreciated by Rovers fans? Without reading the thread bar the o.p. I’ll give my view on Tom. He’s awful. Before and I won’t go in to captaincy. Mistake waiting to happen every ball over the top ( from them) he don’t attack. He can’t read the ball, let’s it bounce and puts himself under neccasry pressure. Look at the center backs our strikers are against. Look at our center backs we rely on. Steve Elliott v Tom lockyer won’t last 10 seconds. Look forward to other views but...... Bottom line he is sh**. nice poem. Why do you think he's playing international football?
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Oct 20, 2018 22:44:07 GMT
Wales misfortune (tho they don’t play him). Is our gain.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2018 22:54:29 GMT
Why is Tom Lockyer so unappreciated by Rovers fans? Here is a still young player who has come through our youth set up after release from Cardiff. That in itself is usually a passport to affection from the terraces. But on top of that, he has made the best part of 250 appearances by the age of 22. That displays a remarkable amount of consistency for one so young. He is our captain already, one who displays exemplary behaviour and is a great ambassador for our club. He is regularly part of the Wales international squad and looks set to gain plenty of caps for his country in future. Better judges than all of us in the form of Darrell Clarke, Chris Coleman and Ryan Giggs clearly see something in him. Most clubs would be proud of such a player. So, why is he so unappreciated by Rovers fans? Without reading the thread bar the o.p. I’ll give my view on Tom. He’s awful. Before and I won’t go in to captaincy. Mistake waiting to happen every ball over the top ( from them) he don’t attack. He can’t read the ball, let’s it bounce and puts himself under neccasry pressure. Look at the center backs our strikers are against. Look at our center backs we rely on. Steve Elliott v Tom lockyer won’t last 10 seconds. Look forward to other views but...... Bottom line he is sh**. Utter nonsense in my opinion and can't agree with one element. But, I did ask the question so fair enough I guess!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2018 23:03:07 GMT
I think tom lockyer has had his share of problems and poor form since we got into league one but right now hes formed a decent partnership with tony craig and we at last have a goalkeeper doing his job. Add to that joe partington and the ever improving michael kelly and we have a fairly solid defensive base which can only help in the struggle to stay up.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Oct 20, 2018 23:21:13 GMT
No chance, but if someone were to offer that we should bit their hands off. I'd accept £500k purely on the basis he has international caps. On performances he is probably worth £2-300k max Sufficed to say, I'm glad you aren't our Sporting Director. But you are entitled to your opinion so fair enough. That fact that he is a consistent member of Wales' international squad adds more to his value. He's also our club captain with 250+ appearances at the age of 23. £500k would be laughably low but agree to disagree etc. I've said many times before I would have cleared out our defence in the summer. £500k for Lockyer would be amazing business. Thing is, if he was worth that someone would have offered it by now. Who knows, maybe they have actually watched him play
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2018 23:28:05 GMT
Sufficed to say, I'm glad you aren't our Sporting Director. But you are entitled to your opinion so fair enough. That fact that he is a consistent member of Wales' international squad adds more to his value. He's also our club captain with 250+ appearances at the age of 23. £500k would be laughably low but agree to disagree etc. I've said many times before I would have cleared out our defence in the summer. £500k for Lockyer would be amazing business. Thing is, if he was worth that someone would have offered it by now. Who knows, maybe they have actually watched him play Have you been close to being in a position to clear out the defence?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2018 23:38:38 GMT
Average / below league 1 defender I reckon. Was great for us in the conference good in league 2 but bang average league 1 at the moment which is fine because he’s young and might well become a championship player at some point but at the moment not good enough for that level , no where near. That's fair enough, but why do you think he is unappreciated, given what he has achieved with us? For me tom lockyer,sinclair,leadbitter,lines and ollie clarke as well as the manager have served the club so well from dark days in the conference to 10th place in league 1 that they deserve to be treated with the upmost respect. It dosnt mean that people cant have an opinion about getting better players/manager to replace them its just the sniping put downs i find hard to stomach. The culture now is never mind what happened before their total crap now so lets bin them. I hate it.
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Post by socrates on Oct 20, 2018 23:45:22 GMT
Average / below league 1 defender I reckon. Was great for us in the conference good in league 2 but bang average league 1 at the moment which is fine because he’s young and might well become a championship player at some point but at the moment not good enough for that level , no where near. That's fair enough, but why do you think he is unappreciated, given what he has achieved with us? I’m not sure why our fan base unappreciate him if they do to be honest it wasn’t me who said that. I think he’s a young Center half who’s risen through the divisions with us and hit his peak for now. He’s one of many who have improved over time , many have left Lockyer is still here I’m happy with that. Pretty sure he wouldn’t leave to go to the 82ers either he’s definitely a Gashead.
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Post by kylegas on Oct 20, 2018 23:52:51 GMT
In a time when we can’t score a goal to save our lives I don’t think a defender and actually our top scorer should be right up there on the list of issues to bring up haha
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Post by lpgas on Oct 20, 2018 23:57:25 GMT
Hello this is getting like Germany after 1933, or even the EU in 2018, YOU WILL see and say things that are acceptable. People don't appreciate defenders. If we let a goal in it's probably their fault, not the midfield or the front, it is the centre halves fault. That's why they are not appreciated. But we do appreciate centre halves. We've appreciated Mark McChystal, Steve Elliott, Steve Yates, Geoff Twentyman, etc etc. Why not Tom Lockyer? Maybe because we brought him up? I think people automatically believe that signings that you pay money for are better than players that come through the ranks, but we know that is not the case with DC's signings!!
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Post by lastminutewinner on Oct 21, 2018 0:57:33 GMT
That's fair enough, but why do you think he is unappreciated, given what he has achieved with us? For me tom lockyer,sinclair,leadbitter,lines and ollie clarke as well as the manager have served the club so well from dark days in the conference to 10th place in league 1 that they deserve to be treated with the upmost respect. It dosnt mean that people cant have an opinion about getting better players/manager to replace them its just the sniping put downs i find hard to stomach. The culture now is never mind what happened before their total crap now so lets bin them. I hate it. I agree they have served us well but Lockyer has not been performing in L1 so maybe he is not good enough? (I would also add Leads and possibly Clarke to that) Stop living in the past bb, dont forget Walker was good in L2 but sh**e in L1......it happens.
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Post by stigofthegas on Oct 21, 2018 7:31:30 GMT
I think the OP was aimed at you. Why don’t you see what the rest of us see? Hardly aimed at me as I hardly ever mention him normally, although as I had said if Locks is so good why does Bonham have to bring off 2 or 3 worldies each game? We're lucky Bonham is covering for our defensive weaknesses or we could well be bottom and looking like relegation certainties. The OP wasn’t aimed literally at you. It was aimed at those who post exactly as you have just posted. So Why don’t you appreciate him?
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 21, 2018 7:54:26 GMT
Hardly aimed at me as I hardly ever mention him normally, although as I had said if Locks is so good why does Bonham have to bring off 2 or 3 worldies each game? We're lucky Bonham is covering for our defensive weaknesses or we could well be bottom and looking like relegation certainties. The OP wasn’t aimed literally at you. It was aimed at those who post exactly as you have just posted. So Why don’t you appreciate him? Although I guess what gets fans backs up he's Mr Unstoppable, when did he last have to fight to get his place back. There was no real need to drop JC for him to return v Burton then the impressive Kelly could have retained his place at LB.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 21, 2018 8:00:38 GMT
It beggars belief that we can't buy a goal and people are criticising a defender who kept a clean sheet yesterday and is our top goalscorer throughout the team! Lockyer deserves more respect and credit than what some are giving him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 8:00:54 GMT
Without reading the thread bar the o.p. I’ll give my view on Tom. He’s awful. Before and I won’t go in to captaincy. Mistake waiting to happen every ball over the top ( from them) he don’t attack. He can’t read the ball, let’s it bounce and puts himself under neccasry pressure. Look at the center backs our strikers are against. Look at our center backs we rely on. Steve Elliott v Tom lockyer won’t last 10 seconds. Look forward to other views but...... Bottom line he is sh**. nice poem. Why do you think he's playing international football? Because he's Welsh and a defender. He ticks both boxes! Can you name many others you'd pick instead? No me neither...
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