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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2018 19:22:28 GMT
Why is Tom Lockyer so unappreciated by Rovers fans?
Here is a still young player who has come through our youth set up after release from Cardiff. That in itself is usually a passport to affection from the terraces.
But on top of that, he has made the best part of 250 appearances by the age of 22. That displays a remarkable amount of consistency for one so young.
He is our captain already, one who displays exemplary behaviour and is a great ambassador for our club. He is regularly part of the Wales international squad and looks set to gain plenty of caps for his country in future. Better judges than all of us in the form of Darrell Clarke, Chris Coleman and Ryan Giggs clearly see something in him.
Most clubs would be proud of such a player. So, why is he so unappreciated by Rovers fans?
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Oct 20, 2018 19:32:38 GMT
Why is Tom Lockyer so unappreciated by Rovers fans? Here is a still young player who has come through our youth set up after release from Cardiff. That in itself is usually a passport to affection from the terraces. But on top of that, he has made the best part of 250 appearances by the age of 22. That displays a remarkable amount of consistency for one so young. He is our captain already, one who displays exemplary behaviour and is a great ambassador for our club. He is regularly part of the Wales international squad and looks set to gain plenty of caps for his country in future. Better judges than all of us in the form of Darrell Clarke, Chris Coleman and Ryan Giggs clearly see something in him. Most clubs would be proud of such a player. So, why is he so unappreciated by Rovers fans? You may be right that he is a little unappreciated by our fans. I think people forget how young he is sometimes given how long he’s been around and how many games he’s played for us. There are some players that only just come onto the scene of first team men’s football at his age. The thing I find frustrating, and it isn’t Tom’s fault, is that DC considers him undroppable. His record is astonishing for such a young lad and he deserves all the praise he gets. But he has had some poor runs of form in the last couple of years and at times probably hasn’t been one of our best 2 centre backs. But if he’s fit and available DC will always have him as first name on the team sheet. As I say, I know that isn’t Tom’s fault so he doesn’t personally deserve any stick for that, but it does annoy me at times.
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Post by neilv93 on Oct 20, 2018 19:35:01 GMT
Why is Tom Lockyer so unappreciated by Rovers fans? Here is a still young player who has come through our youth set up after release from Cardiff. That in itself is usually a passport to affection from the terraces. But on top of that, he has made the best part of 250 appearances by the age of 22. That displays a remarkable amount of consistency for one so young. He is our captain already, one who displays exemplary behaviour and is a great ambassador for our club. He is regularly part of the Wales international squad and looks set to gain plenty of caps for his country in future. Better judges than all of us in the form of Darrell Clarke, Chris Coleman and Ryan Giggs clearly see something in him. Most clubs would be proud of such a player. So, why is he so unappreciated by Rovers fans?Because Nichols can't be the sole scapegoat!? I agree with everything you've said. Enjoy him while we have him IMO as eventually, and it will happen, a Championship club in the Brentford mould will give us a seven-figure fee for him.
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Post by tbonegas on Oct 20, 2018 19:49:20 GMT
His distribution is absolutely dreadful. A footballer that cannot pass a football, really isn't that useful.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 20, 2018 19:58:02 GMT
Then again why was James Clarke dropped today when he's performed better in recent games? If Locks is such a good player why is Bonham MotM every game, if it wasn't for me, and the woodwork, we'd be losing by at least 2 or 3 goals every game. I'll be surprised if Locks every plays higher than Div 1 level.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 20, 2018 19:59:02 GMT
His distribution is absolutely dreadful. A footballer that cannot pass a football, really isn't that useful. Tony Craig's made a decent career out of it?
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Oct 20, 2018 20:09:42 GMT
Why is Tom Lockyer so unappreciated by Rovers fans? Here is a still young player who has come through our youth set up after release from Cardiff. That in itself is usually a passport to affection from the terraces. But on top of that, he has made the best part of 250 appearances by the age of 22. That displays a remarkable amount of consistency for one so young. He is our captain already, one who displays exemplary behaviour and is a great ambassador for our club. He is regularly part of the Wales international squad and looks set to gain plenty of caps for his country in future. Better judges than all of us in the form of Darrell Clarke, Chris Coleman and Ryan Giggs clearly see something in him. Most clubs would be proud of such a player. So, why is he so unappreciated by Rovers fans? Amen
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Post by RD on Oct 20, 2018 20:24:35 GMT
His distribution is absolutely dreadful. A footballer that cannot pass a football, really isn't that useful. Neither's a Rovers supporter who can't support
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Post by chilly1883 on Oct 20, 2018 20:25:08 GMT
His distribution is absolutely dreadful. A footballer that cannot pass a football, really isn't that useful. 🛎
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Post by stigofthegas on Oct 20, 2018 20:35:49 GMT
His distribution is absolutely dreadful. A footballer that cannot pass a football, really isn't that useful. That is just more of your throw-away nonsense. Tom is very good with the ball. He hits more long balls than I would like to see but he is clearly under orders to do so and is the best we have at it. What he is very good at is dropping the ball just over their defence but not too hard so they are forced to play it. Playing for Wales I haven’t seen him hit one long ball. He has looked very good on the ball but then he has better players in front of him who don’t hide. The “poor distribution” line is endlessly rolled out by people who clearly don’t know their arses from their elbows when he it comes to football.
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Post by stigofthegas on Oct 20, 2018 20:37:46 GMT
Then again why was James Clarke dropped today when he's performed better in recent games? If Locks is such a good player why is Bonham MotM every game, if it wasn't for me, and the woodwork, we'd be losing by at least 2 or 3 goals every game. I'll be surprised if Locks every plays higher than Div 1 level. I think the OP was aimed at you. Why don’t you see what the rest of us see?
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Post by lpgas on Oct 20, 2018 20:46:26 GMT
Then again why was James Clarke dropped today when he's performed better in recent games? If Locks is such a good player why is Bonham MotM every game, if it wasn't for me, and the woodwork, we'd be losing by at least 2 or 3 goals every game. I'll be surprised if Locks every plays higher than Div 1 level. I think the OP was aimed at you. Why don’t you see what the rest of us see? Hello this is getting like Germany after 1933, or even the EU in 2018, YOU WILL see and say things that are acceptable. People don't appreciate defenders. If we let a goal in it's probably their fault, not the midfield or the front, it is the centre halves fault. That's why they are not appreciated.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Oct 20, 2018 21:12:59 GMT
Why is Tom Lockyer so unappreciated by Rovers fans? Here is a still young player who has come through our youth set up after release from Cardiff. That in itself is usually a passport to affection from the terraces. But on top of that, he has made the best part of 250 appearances by the age of 22. That displays a remarkable amount of consistency for one so young. He is our captain already, one who displays exemplary behaviour and is a great ambassador for our club. He is regularly part of the Wales international squad and looks set to gain plenty of caps for his country in future. Better judges than all of us in the form of Darrell Clarke, Chris Coleman and Ryan Giggs clearly see something in him. Most clubs would be proud of such a player. So, why is he so unappreciated by Rovers fans?Because Nichols can't be the sole scapegoat!? I agree with everything you've said. Enjoy him while we have him IMO as eventually, and it will happen, a Championship club in the Brentford mould will give us a seven-figure fee for him. No chance, but if someone were to offer that we should bit their hands off. I'd accept £500k purely on the basis he has international caps. On performances he is probably worth £2-300k max
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2018 21:22:28 GMT
I think the OP was aimed at you. Why don’t you see what the rest of us see? Hello this is getting like Germany after 1933, or even the EU in 2018, YOU WILL see and say things that are acceptable. People don't appreciate defenders. If we let a goal in it's probably their fault, not the midfield or the front, it is the centre halves fault. That's why they are not appreciated. But we do appreciate centre halves. We've appreciated Mark McChystal, Steve Elliott, Steve Yates, Geoff Twentyman, etc etc. Why not Tom Lockyer?
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Post by neilv93 on Oct 20, 2018 21:22:56 GMT
Because Nichols can't be the sole scapegoat!? I agree with everything you've said. Enjoy him while we have him IMO as eventually, and it will happen, a Championship club in the Brentford mould will give us a seven-figure fee for him. No chance, but if someone were to offer that we should bit their hands off. I'd accept £500k purely on the basis he has international caps. On performances he is probably worth £2-300k max Sufficed to say, I'm glad you aren't our Sporting Director. But you are entitled to your opinion so fair enough. That fact that he is a consistent member of Wales' international squad adds more to his value. He's also our club captain with 250+ appearances at the age of 23. £500k would be laughably low but agree to disagree etc.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 20, 2018 21:24:29 GMT
Then again why was James Clarke dropped today when he's performed better in recent games? If Locks is such a good player why is Bonham MotM every game, if it wasn't for me, and the woodwork, we'd be losing by at least 2 or 3 goals every game. I'll be surprised if Locks every plays higher than Div 1 level. I think the OP was aimed at you. Why don’t you see what the rest of us see? Hardly aimed at me as I hardly ever mention him normally, although as I had said if Locks is so good why does Bonham have to bring off 2 or 3 worldies each game? We're lucky Bonham is covering for our defensive weaknesses or we could well be bottom and looking like relegation certainties.
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Post by socrates on Oct 20, 2018 21:25:10 GMT
His distribution is absolutely dreadful. A footballer that cannot pass a football, really isn't that useful. Average / below league 1 defender I reckon. Was great for us in the conference good in league 2 but bang average league 1 at the moment which is fine because he’s young and might well become a championship player at some point but at the moment not good enough for that level , no where near.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2018 21:25:56 GMT
Then again why was James Clarke dropped today when he's performed better in recent games? If Locks is such a good player why is Bonham MotM every game, if it wasn't for me, and the woodwork, we'd be losing by at least 2 or 3 goals every game. I'll be surprised if Locks every plays higher than Div 1 level. Agree that James Clarke can consider himself unlucky to be dropped. He's had ab excellent season. But that's the nature of football and a consequence of depth in a squad. Bonham's been a good signing, but he had little to do today. That was partly due to the excellent performances of Lockyer and Craig. But then for some reason, plenty don't rate either of them.
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Post by neilv93 on Oct 20, 2018 21:27:38 GMT
I think the OP was aimed at you. Why don’t you see what the rest of us see? Hardly aimed at me as I hardly ever mention him normally, although as I had said if Locks is so good why does Bonham have to bring off 2 or 3 worldies each game? We're lucky Bonham is covering for our defensive weaknesses or we could well be bottom and looking like relegation certainties. We have the joint-fourth defence in the league... Also, have you ever considered the possibility that Bonham having to make saves may also be because the opponent created a good opportunity or because another defender was caught out? To imply that Locks isn't good because Bonham makes good saves is lazy and just not accurate.
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Post by neilv93 on Oct 20, 2018 21:29:29 GMT
Then again why was James Clarke dropped today when he's performed better in recent games? If Locks is such a good player why is Bonham MotM every game, if it wasn't for me, and the woodwork, we'd be losing by at least 2 or 3 goals every game. I'll be surprised if Locks every plays higher than Div 1 level. Agree that James Clarke can consider himself unlucky to be dropped. He's had ab excellent season. But that's the nature of football and a consequence of depth in a squad. Bonham's been a good signing, but he had little to do today. That was partly due to the excellent performances of Lockyer and Craig. But then for some reason, plenty don't rate either of them. Think they deserve credit for a good, solid clean sheet today. The highlights on Sky paint a different picture to the game as Oxford were completely bereft of ideas going forward and rarely threatened. Craig and Locks marshalled their attack excellently all game IMO and Kelly and Parts also played a key part.
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