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Post by peterhooper57 on Oct 21, 2018 8:00:55 GMT
Tom is a nice fella who has managed to amass a large numbers of appearances. Unfortunately, he has no presence as a captain, there are long periods where he is struggling with his own game, let alone give direction to others, and in my opinion he is replaceable. He will probably do better elsewhere, however that is no good for BRFC, DC does him no favours playing another short player in Craig alongside him. He is no Andy Tilson, Geoff Twentyman was limited on the deck, but a very good centre back in the air, who had the judge and then yatesy alongside him. This current pair play too deep and inspire no confidence.
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Post by hollyhillgas on Oct 21, 2018 8:11:00 GMT
Tom Lockyer will save Rovers from relegation. If the money from his sale in January, which I would expect to be close to £1,000,000, is spent on a striker who can actually score goals.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 21, 2018 8:15:38 GMT
Tom Lockyer will save Rovers from relegation. If the money from his sale in January, which I would expect to be close to £1,000,000, is spent on a striker who can actually score goals. and how much of that £1mil would you expect us to see towards a striker? And then £200-£300k clearly doesn't get you much these days! Plus Tommy is our top scorer, so we will be losing some goals!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 8:17:50 GMT
Tom Lockyer will save Rovers from relegation. If the money from his sale in January, which I would expect to be close to £1,000,000, is spent on a striker who can actually score goals. Won't happen but even if it did do you seriously think a struggling league two team would ever pay a million pounds for a single player? What player valued at a million would want to join a struggling league two club and how would we pay a million pound players wages. i think you must be still asleep and dreaming. Nice dream though if Rovers are snapping up that type of striker!!!
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Post by hollyhillgas on Oct 21, 2018 8:21:17 GMT
Tom Lockyer will save Rovers from relegation. If the money from his sale in January, which I would expect to be close to £1,000,000, is spent on a striker who can actually score goals. Won't happen but even if it did do you seriously think a struggling league two team would ever pay a million pounds for a single player? What player valued at a million would want to join a struggling league two club and how would we pay a million pound players wages. i think you must be still asleep and dreaming. Nice dream though if Rovers are snapping up that type of striker!!! Your the one having the nightmare, we're not in L2
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 8:27:50 GMT
Won't happen but even if it did do you seriously think a struggling league two team would ever pay a million pounds for a single player? What player valued at a million would want to join a struggling league two club and how would we pay a million pound players wages. i think you must be still asleep and dreaming. Nice dream though if Rovers are snapping up that type of striker!!! Your the one having the nightmare, we're not in L2 Getting ahead of myself? Hope I don't have to cut and paste that one this time next year!!! Clearly meant league one and my point still stands - do you think it's even a remote possibility that a side in our position would 1 be able to attract that calibre of player when they would surely be looking at championship, 2 spend a million pounds on one player and 3 be able to pay a million pound players wages?
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Post by madgas on Oct 21, 2018 8:53:50 GMT
Tom is a very good league 1 defender.
We struggle to notice because were idiots. We carry some really hard-fast dated views. We are dinosaurs.
Tom was given the captaincy and that makes him a target for some. It should so clearly be others.
I mean, who are these great leaders that need a armband before they’ll contribute to the direction of the club. If you’re a leader- you don’t need an armband to make your point. The role has changed. It’s not about running the dressing room, shouting your face off, it’s about being popular and good at heads vs tails.
Yesterday, during the second half all I heard is:
“You can’t play 1 up top at home”
Nonsense. Never mind the improved performance. Never mind, Hitting the post. The fans that I was stood near would’ve reverted to the first half if it meant playing two up front at home. Because somehow that saves face...
Queueing to get in. Sunny, only took 5 minuets, stopped people getting in for free. “Moan, moan, moan.”
DC not tearing a new one into the players from minuet 1. Clearly a calculated manoeuvre. Clearly an effort to let them focus on playing. Clearly worth a try. Well apparently not, DC lacks passion... according to the idiots near me.
Passion: every set of fans sing is this a library at us now? We don’t even respond.
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Post by hollyhillgas on Oct 21, 2018 8:58:33 GMT
Your the one having the nightmare, we're not in L2 Getting ahead of myself? Hope I don't have to cut and paste that one this time next year!!! Clearly meant league one and my point still stands - do you think it's even a remote possibility that a side in our position would 1 be able to attract that calibre of player when they would surely be looking at championship, 2 spend a million pounds on one player and 3 be able to pay a million pound players wages? The wages would be offset with what TL is paid, who I expect to be one of the top earners at the club.
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Post by madgas on Oct 21, 2018 9:05:07 GMT
Add to this:
“We have no wingers at the club”
No one plays wing in the sense that these idiots want anymore. A winger is an old fashioned position. An out and out winger truely does not exist. Even a “Giggs” who was a winger had to change his position.
The idea that wingers exist is fantasy.
We have plenty of attacking midfielders.
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Post by markczgas on Oct 21, 2018 9:54:19 GMT
I think tom lockyer has had his share of problems and poor form since we got into league one but right now hes formed a decent partnership with tony craig and we at last have a goalkeeper doing his job. Add to that joe partington and the ever improving michael kelly and we have a fairly solid defensive base which can only help in the struggle to stay up. until we play a team with height up front - then we are stuffed and hanging on. CB situation not solved by DC in the summer.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 9:56:27 GMT
Tom Lockyer will save Rovers from relegation. If the money from his sale in January, which I would expect to be close to £1,000,000, is spent on a striker who can actually score goals. I'd bite your hand off for that transfer as long as the funds went back into the team straight away! If only...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 10:21:00 GMT
I think tom lockyer has had his share of problems and poor form since we got into league one but right now hes formed a decent partnership with tony craig and we at last have a goalkeeper doing his job. Add to that joe partington and the ever improving michael kelly and we have a fairly solid defensive base which can only help in the struggle to stay up. until we play a team with height up front - then we are stuffed and hanging on. CB situation not solved by DC in the summer. I think all the centre-backs have done ok this season and its not the big problem right now. We signed a big striker who scored goals last season so we have height available to the manager.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 21, 2018 10:26:11 GMT
nice poem. Why do you think he's playing international football? Because he's Welsh and a defender. He ticks both boxes! Can you name many others you'd pick instead? No me neither... I'm not sure why an English (assuming here) Bristol Rovers fan is going to know much about what defenders Wales have. Let's not forget though that they got to the semis of the euros only 2 years ago so I'm sure it's no mean feat.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 10:31:46 GMT
Getting ahead of myself? Hope I don't have to cut and paste that one this time next year!!! Clearly meant league one and my point still stands - do you think it's even a remote possibility that a side in our position would 1 be able to attract that calibre of player when they would surely be looking at championship, 2 spend a million pounds on one player and 3 be able to pay a million pound players wages? The wages would be offset with what TL is paid, who I expect to be one of the top earners at the club. I agree Tom is probably one of our best paid players - but I would guess on no more than £4000 or £5000 per week. A million pound rated striker will be looking for a minimum of 4 times that. I think officially Andy Tillson is still our most expensive signing although there is speculation that Nichols was for a similar amount but obviously unconfirmed. So in over 25 years our record transfer hasn't been exceeded. Buying a million pound striker is probably 50 years away unless Mr Lansdown wishes to switch his allegiances!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 10:36:50 GMT
Because he's Welsh and a defender. He ticks both boxes! Can you name many others you'd pick instead? No me neither... I'm not sure why an English (assuming here) Bristol Rovers fan is going to know much about what defenders Wales have. Let's not forget though that they got to the semis of the euros only 2 years ago so I'm sure it's no mean feat. oh come off it- a football fan knows more than just about the gas! It’s well known they are struggling for top quality defenders and had to pick down the leagues from what was available! And yes wales did great a few years back but I don’t see what that’s got to do with TL. More to do with Gareth Bale!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 10:39:25 GMT
Tom Lockyer will save Rovers from relegation. If the money from his sale in January, which I would expect to be close to £1,000,000, is spent on a striker who can actually score goals. I'd bite your hand off for that transfer as long as the funds went back into the team straight away! If only... Knowing us we would sell Lockyer for 2 million re-payable over 100 years.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Oct 21, 2018 10:45:12 GMT
Toms OK for me ,still learning his trade and wish he was a bit 'mouthier' on the pitch, but suppose if your not that type your' not, any way he's one of us and deserves our support, look forward to see him lifting a trophy this season!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 12:29:38 GMT
For me tom lockyer,sinclair,leadbitter,lines and ollie clarke as well as the manager have served the club so well from dark days in the conference to 10th place in league 1 that they deserve to be treated with the upmost respect. It dosnt mean that people cant have an opinion about getting better players/manager to replace them its just the sniping put downs i find hard to stomach. The culture now is never mind what happened before their total crap now so lets bin them. I hate it. I agree they have served us well but Lockyer has not been performing in L1 so maybe he is not good enough? (I would also add Leads and possibly Clarke to that) Stop living in the past bb, dont forget Walker was good in L2 but sh**e in L1......it happens. I don't think Blue Butterfly is living in the past. The players who weren't good enough to play in League 1 (or in some cases were good enough but no longer have the legs) have been moved on. Parkes, Gosling, Macca, Monkhouse, Manse, etc etc etc (there's loads of them!). The players who have stayed throughout have proved time and time again that they are good enough for this division.
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Post by neilv93 on Oct 21, 2018 13:40:41 GMT
Add to this: “We have no wingers at the club” No one plays wing in the sense that these idiots want anymore. A winger is an old fashioned position. An out and out winger truely does not exist. Even a “Giggs” who was a winger had to change his position. The idea that wingers exist is fantasy. We have plenty of attacking midfielders. This, and your other post, is spot on. Not criticising our fanbase for having opinions but most know nothing about football. Bloke I sit next to in the Dribuild moans ALL GAME NON-STOP. We had a spell of play in the second-half where we kept the ball for about two and a half minutes, carefully and patiently moving the ball side-to-side waiting for Oxford to make a mistake or lose their shape for a second for us to capitalise (and they did, Bennett got fouled and we won a free-kick). All I heard from the surrounding fans in my section were moans that we were "too slow" and "going backwards". Beggars belief to think someone genuinely believe we need to get the ball forward IMMEDIATELY and then shoot IMMEDIATELY (moans galore when Parts passed it back to Locks one time because we were once again "going backwards" when Matthews and Nichols were marked). Honestly, it winds me up. People are allowed opinions, of course, and I am by no means an expert myself, far from it. I'm just sick of sitting next to predominantly blokes in their 50/60s (no offence if any of you are from that generation, I'm generalising the surrounding area near me not everyone from that time) moaning that our wingers don't play like George Best and Ollie/Ed don't play like Nobby Stiles. It's 2018, football has changed DRASTICALLY. Get with the times.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 13:46:22 GMT
Add to this: “We have no wingers at the club” No one plays wing in the sense that these idiots want anymore. A winger is an old fashioned position. An out and out winger truely does not exist. Even a “Giggs” who was a winger had to change his position. The idea that wingers exist is fantasy. We have plenty of attacking midfielders. This, and your other post, is spot on. Not criticising our fanbase for having opinions but most know nothing about football. Bloke I sit next to in the Dribuild moans ALL GAME NON-STOP. We had a spell of play in the second-half where we kept the ball for about two and a half minutes, carefully and patiently moving the ball side-to-side waiting for Oxford to make a mistake or lose their shape for a second for us to capitalise (and they did, Bennett got fouled and we won a free-kick). All I heard from the surrounding fans in my section were moans that we were "too slow" and "going backwards". Beggars belief to think someone genuinely believe we need to get the ball forward IMMEDIATELY and then shoot IMMEDIATELY (moans galore when Parts passed it back to Locks one time because we were once again "going backwards" when Matthews and Nichols were marked). Honestly, it winds me up. People are allowed opinions, of course, and I am by no means an expert myself, far from it. I'm just sick of sitting next to predominantly blokes in their 50/60s (no offence if any of you are from that generation, I'm generalising the surrounding area near me not everyone from that time) moaning that our wingers don't play like George Best and Ollie/Ed don't play like Nobby Stiles. It's 2018, football has changed DRASTICALLY. Get with the times. Football is all about scoring goals it’s never changed.
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