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Post by chilly1883 on Nov 17, 2018 18:58:12 GMT
Nichols can’t score, but he’s miles ahead of Payne as a footballer, sorry but Payne is dog sh**, absolute waste of a player I don't rate him either but it's completely unnecessary to refer to him in those terms imo. sorry he’s really terrible
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Post by oldgas on Nov 17, 2018 18:59:55 GMT
Give one of development squad a go why not? Ps a certain ginger haired bloke scored today I'm more upset about Telford. We could have signed him, unless relegated Bury were able to offer better wages. He's scored 10 for Bury now. If staying with us he could have got 5 in league 1, we'd be several places higher. Still, if if's and and's were pots and pans, there'd be no need for tinkers.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 17, 2018 19:17:00 GMT
Nichols has a good game and setup our goal.
I actually don't think the strikers looked too bad today. People are slating Payne but he played a part in the goal too. Lost his head the last half hour though but looked much more up for it than usual. I thought we were lacking in CM today if anything and I'm not sure about James Clarke at the back. He'll always do his best but too slow and think we missed Lockyer. Not sure why Martin played today either, where was Kelly?
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Post by romangas on Nov 17, 2018 19:20:42 GMT
Chris Lines takes a lot of stick on this forum. He is a class apart and struggles because of the lack of quality in the team as a whole.Talk of selling him is a joke...last week at Barnet , after he scored the pen : " He's one of our own, Chrissy Lines he's one of our own " rang out from the assembled Gas army. UTG.
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Post by axegas on Nov 17, 2018 19:24:13 GMT
The pass assist to Liam was a beaut. It wasn’t actually. It was the right ball to make but he overhit it, it was Sercombe’s great technique to get the ball down and turn that made the goal. He played well today, as he did at Blackpool and Barnet too but as a striker you’re employed to score goals and another open miss today shows he hasn’t got it in him.
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Post by noblegas on Nov 17, 2018 19:24:44 GMT
I seem to be in a minority of one, but I thought Payne had a really good game today. Played the role of target man, a few nice headers on (including for the goal.) And at the end he was the only one who seemed to be making a real effort. I (for one) was impressed. Not sure why I'm seeing something so different to everyone else!🤔
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 17, 2018 19:28:22 GMT
Chris Lines takes a lot of stick on this forum. He is a class apart and struggles because of the lack of quality in the team as a whole.Talk of selling him is a joke...last week at Barnet , after he scored the pen : " He's one of our own, Chrissy Lines he's one of our own " rang out from the assembled Gas army. UTG. He was poor today.
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Post by wertongas on Nov 17, 2018 19:29:21 GMT
I thought Nichols played well today but I would play him at the top of the midfield just in front of Sercombe and behind two forwards he creates chances but does not have the confidence to put the ball in the back of the net.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 19:36:23 GMT
We've got to stop playing Nichols - simple. I know people will come up with all sorts of defences, but we can't carry this guy in one of the striker slots. Best forward we got why drop him?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 19:44:10 GMT
Have we anybody better, truth is all our forwards are poor and so is our play in the final third, our movement off the ball to find space is the worst i've seen for many a season, that is down to the coaching of our offensive players imo. But there the same coaches used with bodin,taylor and harrison surely?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 17, 2018 19:47:44 GMT
I seem to be in a minority of one, but I thought Payne had a really good game today. Played the role of target man, a few nice headers on (including for the goal.) And at the end he was the only one who seemed to be making a real effort. I (for one) was impressed. Not sure why I'm seeing something so different to everyone else!🤔 Thanks Stephans Mum. You could count the number of passes Payne made to a Rovers player on the fingers of one stump today. Utterly woeful. That Nichols is head and shoulders above everything else we have at the club is shocking. Relegation beckons.
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Post by tbonegas on Nov 17, 2018 19:49:48 GMT
We've got to stop playing Nichols - simple. I know people will come up with all sorts of defences, but we can't carry this guy in one of the striker slots. Best forward we got why drop him? He isn't a forward. He is a runner abouter.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 19:52:01 GMT
swap Nichols and sercombe! Let Nichols cut in from the left and let sercombe shoot! Easy decision but the gaffers blind to it!
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Kelly Craig Lockyer Clarke
Nichols Upson Clarke Matthews
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Post by LJG on Nov 17, 2018 19:52:42 GMT
Trouble is the league likes counting things more than supporters do. Unless I've missed the "Most Effort" column in the table. The league doesn't count anything except goals wins and draws so that leaves quite a lot to ignore. Yeah goals get counted and lack of goals doesn't count for anything.
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Post by GasAttacK on Nov 17, 2018 19:55:04 GMT
The team will score less goals without Nichols. He's directly contributed to 4 in the last 3 games.
Should have been 5 if Bennett hadn't missed a great chance. Easier than Nichols opportunity as it was on his favoured foot.
Payne was very poor again today and both Reilly and Jakubiak were awful at Exeter. In fact they've all been useless in 90% of the games they've played.
Unlike Nichols they have zero ability so if they're not scoring it's like playing with 10 men.
I'm not sure what the answer is but dropping Nichols would only make things worse.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Nov 17, 2018 19:57:52 GMT
Have no prob with Tom as a good footballer but his position is STRIKER,and as such he does not do what it says on the tin!as such he is not worth his place in that role, may be in another position ,thats for the coaches to decide,i hope the lads gone to Bath on loan get game time and come back ready to challenge for a start, Baghdadi can beat a man and put over danger crosses and Moore cant do any worse than the present strikers as a finisher what have we got to lose by trying them, will be popping over to Twerton to see them in action!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 20:00:07 GMT
I thought payne did ok today,its just that he is a bang average player and dosnt look like he will score many goals. The other thing is that he looks overweight but maybe he has that build and has always looked like that? Last season you could clearly see how uncomfortable defenders were dealing with ellis and we have nothing even close to that now. Ps payne earned the penalty today.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 20:02:45 GMT
Have we anybody better, truth is all our forwards are poor and so is our play in the final third, our movement off the ball to find space is the worst i've seen for many a season, that is down to the coaching of our offensive players imo. But there the same coaches used with bodin,taylor and harrison surely? Yes and we lacked good movement then, Bodin stayed wide he didn't move to find space, Taylor did find space and his movement was good in the box too, Ellis was left to battle for the ball on his own or run the channels mostly. Today at least three times first half we broke in midfield Sercs twice and Ollie once, all three ahead of them ran in straight lines towards the box, none tried to lose their marker, none dropped into space or ran across the pitch to drag a defender out of position to create space for someone else. So easy to defend against and Scunny didn't look nothing special defensively to me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 20:11:41 GMT
But there the same coaches used with bodin,taylor and harrison surely? Yes and we lacked good movement then, Bodin stayed wide he didn't move to find space, Taylor did find space and his movement was good in the box too, Ellis was left to battle for the ball on his own or run the channels mostly. Today at least three times first half we broke in midfield Sercs twice and Ollie once, all three ahead of them ran in straight lines towards the box, none tried to lose their marker, none dropped into space or ran across the pitch to drag a defender out of position to create space for someone else. So easy to defend against and Scunny didn't look nothing special defensively to me. So it was bad coaching with bodin,taylor and harrison despite the goals. And bad coaching now with our current strikers. I got different theory. Taylor,bodin and harrison were bloody good league one forwards. Payne,nichols,reilly and jakubiak are poor league one forwards.
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Post by althepirate on Nov 17, 2018 20:19:44 GMT
For me Nicholls is a winger, he absolutely turned their defenders inside out, very skilful and has pace. Also it would take the pressure off of him scoring. I don't think he is powerful enough to be one of the strikers and he is never near the goal to get tap ins. He always supplies the passes for others to shoot when he should be the one getting the final ball in the box.
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