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Post by stokegiffordgas on Nov 24, 2018 20:16:22 GMT
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 24, 2018 20:21:57 GMT
Oh dear we last st again but it's ok cud we got DC in charge and that makes us all ok FFS DC how much more of this must we take until you finally f**k off we could say the same about your treads |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 20:24:27 GMT
I personally don't think those two posters would enjoy relegation. What I don't understand is the larger number on here quite happy to keep DC even if we are relegated Utter madness as DC will be off in the Summer even if he takes us down, the thought he will stay loyal to us is equally mad. It might be right that he will be off in the summer...if we stay up, or go down.But to question his loyalty to this football club before now (turning down Leeds job) and after today is quite frankly a Joke.. The man saved our club for f**k sake! Read my post again I did not say that. I have not questioned his loyalty up to now! Merely pointing out I would be surprised if it will still exist at the end of this season if we go down with him still at the helm. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 24, 2018 20:44:02 GMT
It might be right that he will be off in the summer...if we stay up, or go down.But to question his loyalty to this football club before now (turning down Leeds job) and after today is quite frankly a Joke.. The man saved our club for f**k sake! Exactly. He saved our club. Perhaps people should think on that before casting him aside. Darrell Clarke saved Bristol Rovers from oblivion. He remains the best man for the job and will continue to be even if we go down. Everyone has a shelf life though and perhaps if there is no sign of progress after a season in League 2, then might be the time to think about it. But not at a time when we remain above what increasingly appears to be our natural level. He needs our support and I hope he gets it on Tuesday night. Now is the time to show him what he means to us. Longer term, he needs funds in January to find an effective target man. It seems he may have to offload to make this happen, which makes his job even harder, but I think it's essential that we find someone to play alongside Nichols. A short term signing like Andy Rammell would be fine, but we must find that man. So you are suggesting despite DC having last January, this summer and, hopefully, next January to sort out the squad we should stick with him though a relegation battle til May, then give him the funds to rebuild the squad for Div 2 next summer, that would be sheer madness. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 20:44:30 GMT
DC will be gone if we don’t get a result on Tuesday. Let's hope we don't get a result then. I have had enough of his crap now. Trying to think what i can say to you to make you run off crying like a baby from the forum? I know you deleted twice in a massive sulk. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 20:58:01 GMT
We'll have to agree to disagree then. The only genuine winger option we have is Rodman. I don't class Bennett as a winger as he plays more centrally or comes inside when played out wide. Hopefully Rodman will eventually come good, but apart from him our options are limited. Plus when wing backs are played Leadbitter cannot cross for toffee and the left side is non existent. Lee Brown you are missed. Its quite clear now just how much of an outlet lee brown was when we move forward. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 21:10:17 GMT
DC's comment about the few of his Players he would go to war with and needing others to be Men indicates the lack of physically strong Players he has recruited. Not enough height in the Team is putting us a significant disadvantage. Weak attempt to stay with the scorer of the first goal and badly out of position from the punt from the GK - who was the culprit? Second goal, we have seen similar many times for over a year now. It is utterly weak and good money is being paid for this apathy. What dc is on about is nothing to do with height or strength,its about heart. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 21:35:32 GMT
Exactly. He saved our club. Perhaps people should think on that before casting him aside. Darrell Clarke saved Bristol Rovers from oblivion. He remains the best man for the job and will continue to be even if we go down. Everyone has a shelf life though and perhaps if there is no sign of progress after a season in League 2, then might be the time to think about it. But not at a time when we remain above what increasingly appears to be our natural level. He needs our support and I hope he gets it on Tuesday night. Now is the time to show him what he means to us. Longer term, he needs funds in January to find an effective target man. It seems he may have to offload to make this happen, which makes his job even harder, but I think it's essential that we find someone to play alongside Nichols. A short term signing like Andy Rammell would be fine, but we must find that man. So you are suggesting despite DC having last January, this summer and, hopefully, next January to sort out the squad we should stick with him though a relegation battle til May, then give him the funds to rebuild the squad for Div 2 next summer, that would be sheer madness. I am suggesting pretty much that, yes, although I don't believe the squad really needs much in the way of rebuilding. It needs a new centre forward as Payne has been a poor buy so far and maybe a year from now we may need a new centre half or two. Aside from that, I don't think we are a million miles away and we are certainly good enough to compete in that league. If we were to take the other option and sack him, what qualities would we want from the incoming manager? If we are in League 2 (our level, in my opinion), we would want someone with experience in getting out of that league, someone who can work with a limited budget, someone who is a proven motivator of players,and crucially for this club, someone who relates to and can inspire the fans. Darrell Clarke fits the bill for all these points...and that's before the question of the loyalty we owe him. He has earned the right. |
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Post by Cosmic Pasty on Nov 24, 2018 22:28:41 GMT
If we were to take the other option and sack him, what qualities would we want from the incoming manager? If we are in League 2 (our level, in my opinion), we would want someone with experience in getting out of that league, someone who can work with a limited budget, someone who is a proven motivator of players,and crucially for this club, someone who relates to and can inspire the fans. Darrell Clarke fits the bill for all these points...and that's before the question of the loyalty we owe him. He has earned the right. Shades of the Pina Colada song there, and yearning for what we've already got.
Honestly, though, I can't think of anyone else around right now who could step into DC's shoes and fill them, let alone anyone capable who would be be willing to.
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Post by Gassy on Nov 24, 2018 22:42:33 GMT
Exactly. He saved our club. Perhaps people should think on that before casting him aside. Darrell Clarke saved Bristol Rovers from oblivion. He remains the best man for the job and will continue to be even if we go down. Everyone has a shelf life though and perhaps if there is no sign of progress after a season in League 2, then might be the time to think about it. But not at a time when we remain above what increasingly appears to be our natural level. He needs our support and I hope he gets it on Tuesday night. Now is the time to show him what he means to us. Longer term, he needs funds in January to find an effective target man. It seems he may have to offload to make this happen, which makes his job even harder, but I think it's essential that we find someone to play alongside Nichols. A short term signing like Andy Rammell would be fine, but we must find that man. So you are suggesting despite DC having last January, this summer and, hopefully, next January to sort out the squad we should stick with him though a relegation battle til May, then give him the funds to rebuild the squad for Div 2 next summer, that would be sheer madness. Yeah and imagine losing his 2 best players in those windows. DC has had more success than he has had failure with us or any club for that matter. In all honesty, what has he done so badly, from division 5 to twice 11th & 13th in division 3 - in 4 years. This year after being forced to sell his best players - people think it’s “sheer madness” to sack him after what 19 games? DC has shown loyalty and quality for years, I see no reason as to why - even if we went down, that DC wouldn’t sort it out again |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 24, 2018 22:54:46 GMT
He was hardly "forced" to sell BB & EH we got offers and they were accepted, isn't that how football works? DC knew for months Gaffney was off but who's actually replaced him, as neither Reilly or Jakubiak seems similar players and neither has his lwr league experience. Likewise how the hell did we manage to get a striker as poor as Payne for £200K when Walsall got two decent strikers for a total of £35K. DC's released Monty & Moore but Bennet & Matthews don't even start most games.
We've been on a downward spiral since the end of February so it's not just the 19 games this season, DC doesn't seem able to stop the rot, if he can't turn things around soon I can't see how he'll turn things around in the summer/next season, football management doesn't work that way.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 22:59:40 GMT
Wholeheartedly agree. Nicho has popped up with several assists as of late, he should also have been responsible for winning a penalty in each of the Barnet games. He should be in the team on current form. Our current form is LDLLL in all competitions. Turd. Our current League form is somewhat less depressing though W2 D1 L3 Why do you sign off your post as Turd, is it a legal title? |
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Post by midlandgas213 on Nov 24, 2018 23:04:33 GMT
Oh dear we last st again but it's ok cud we got DC in charge and that makes us all ok FFS DC how much more of this must we take until you finally f**k off we could say the same about your treads I haven't done any treads |
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Post by midlandgas213 on Nov 24, 2018 23:07:27 GMT
I support DC post match interview, it was honest and direct, Imo in transfer window I would off load Payne (don't need to explain why) replace him with a man who can compete with muscular meaty Defenders, and someone who can support Nichols,dominant Centre Back would be nice as well, i beg the owners to support DC now, if they do and Rovers fail then there will be no other person to blame, I believe he can turn it around, and if he believe certain players are not stepping up, then don't play until they can prove they want to put in everything for this club that i love and supported for 50 years Again I ask how much longer does he need to turn it around and why has he got us in this position to start with |
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Post by Gassy on Nov 24, 2018 23:13:19 GMT
He was hardly "forced" to sell BB & EH we got offers and they were accepted, isn't that how football works? DC knew for months Gaffney was off but who's actually replaced him, as neither Reilly or Jakubiak seems similar players and neither has his lwr league experience. Likewise how the hell did we manage to get a striker as poor as Payne for £200K when Walsall got two decent strikers for a total of £35K. DC's released Monty & Moore but Bennet & Matthews don't even start most games. We've been on a downward spiral since the end of February so it's not just the 19 games this season, DC doesn't seem able to stop the rot, if he can't turn things around soon I can't see how he'll turn things around in the summer/next season, football management doesn't work that way. Doesn’t it? So Accrington have always been top of every division? Same as Dagenham? DC took us down to the conference (let’s be honest John Ward would have been able to get enough points to keep us up that year for those 8 games) but look at us now. I don’t see why he can’t. And yes, forced. Unless you think DC wanted to sell them? Monty & Moore didn’t play anyway, so no change there. I don’t understand these things at times - Rovers fans have always been amazing in the idea of “Gaffney is crap” - then when he gets sold or is injured, we suddenly forget how bad they were and now they’re the messiah. I never thought people would actually complain about releasing Byron Moore - who 100% of fans stated he’s the worst player in the EFL. I’m not excusing DCs transfer business this summer, it should have been better. But he’s done enough for me to to trust him going forward and to pledge my loyalty to him |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 23:53:34 GMT
Let's hope we don't get a result then. I have had enough of his crap now. Trying to think what i can say to you to make you run off crying like a baby from the forum? I know you deleted twice in a massive sulk.   |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 0:09:09 GMT
Wimbledon, Plymouth, and Bradford all win. We are seriously in trouble. As did Rochdale, who were only 3 points and places above us at start of play. All around us will strengthen. As a minimum our Director of Recruitment MUST find us a big commanding Centre Half, and a big brute of a Centre Forward (and a proper keeper if Bonham is going to leave). Those two additions would make a huge difference as the rest of the squad should be good enough - given an outlet up front, and a good defender at the back. Ashley Nadesan is big and scoring in league 2 and loan period at Carlisle ends in December and Fleetwood might listen to offers. As for a big centre half could do a lot worse than Cian Bolger. |
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Post by pirate on Nov 25, 2018 1:06:14 GMT
As did Rochdale, who were only 3 points and places above us at start of play. All around us will strengthen. As a minimum our Director of Recruitment MUST find us a big commanding Centre Half, and a big brute of a Centre Forward (and a proper keeper if Bonham is going to leave). Those two additions would make a huge difference as the rest of the squad should be good enough - given an outlet up front, and a good defender at the back. Ashley Nadesan is big and scoring in league 2 and loan period at Carlisle ends in December and Fleetwood might listen to offers. As for a big centre half could do a lot worse than Cian Bolger. I think Bolger would be decent for us, but I can't see him making the move from Fleetwood. Worth making an enquiry though to see what he thinks and if it is financially viable. 6ft 4in Ben Heneghan would also be one I'd like here. I'm not sure what his status is regarding his loan from Sheffield United to Blackpool, but another worth an enquiry. 6ft 3in Jon Guthrie at Walsall is another player I like, but whether he would be prepared to leave them for us is another matter. I believe he is out of contract in the summer. 6ft 4in William Boyle at Cheltenham is another to catch the eye. The former Scottish youth international and Huddersfield youth team captain is a no nonsense player and leader. Sam Hughes from Leicester on a loan would be a good option if possible. Very good player. My number one target if we are strengthening the defence would still be Israel Puerto though. An outstanding player and one that could easily make us money in the future too. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 25, 2018 12:10:47 GMT
"My number one target if we are strengthening the defence would still be Israel Puerto though. An outstanding player and one that could easily make us money in the future too."
Seriously you'd gamble our Div 1 status on a 25 yr player who's never played outside Spain? Plus he's only 6'1" according to wiki so hardly the dominant CH we really seem to need.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 25, 2018 12:21:11 GMT
He was hardly "forced" to sell BB & EH we got offers and they were accepted, isn't that how football works? DC knew for months Gaffney was off but who's actually replaced him, as neither Reilly or Jakubiak seems similar players and neither has his lwr league experience. Likewise how the hell did we manage to get a striker as poor as Payne for £200K when Walsall got two decent strikers for a total of £35K. DC's released Monty & Moore but Bennet & Matthews don't even start most games. We've been on a downward spiral since the end of February so it's not just the 19 games this season, DC doesn't seem able to stop the rot, if he can't turn things around soon I can't see how he'll turn things around in the summer/next season, football management doesn't work that way. Doesn’t it? So Accrington have always been top of every division? Same as Dagenham? DC took us down to the conference (let’s be honest John Ward would have been able to get enough points to keep us up that year for those 8 games) but look at us now. I don’t see why he can’t. And yes, forced. Unless you think DC wanted to sell them? Monty & Moore didn’t play anyway, so no change there. I don’t understand these things at times - Rovers fans have always been amazing in the idea of “Gaffney is crap” - then when he gets sold or is injured, we suddenly forget how bad they were and now they’re the messiah. I never thought people would actually complain about releasing Byron Moore - who 100% of fans stated he’s the worst player in the EFL. I’m not excusing DCs transfer business this summer, it should have been better. But he’s done enough for me to to trust him going forward and to pledge my loyalty to him If DC is capable of turning things around why has he failed to do so this season so far and, if we do go down, also during January? What magic wand is going to wave next summer so we suddenly start winning games? I just fear all this negativity around the owners as spread to DC and the players and it may need a change of manager to stop the rot. Moore played the last 10 or so games last season which is far more than Rodman has managed, Monty was a virtual ever present and two seasons later has still not been replaced. Letting him leave was a bizarre decision as I can't imagine he would have been demand a big contract. I agree Gaffney was crap towards ends the end of his contract, my point was he's not been replaced so we now have to rely solely upon Payne at CF. DC knew last term scoring goals was a problem so he signed two strikers with no goal scoring record at this level, Reilly & Jakubiak to go with Nichols, it's hardly a surprise scoring goals is such a problem. |
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