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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 11:47:52 GMT
The sources have been named on here but unless Hamer or Wael suggest the rumours are true then nobody really knows the truth. Clearly somebody has convinced Knowall something is going on. I missed who the sources were then. Who were they?? Does Knowall still think what he heard, is still happening?? By the end of December he said...........
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Post by William Wilson on Nov 30, 2018 12:01:31 GMT
Iβve never seen him in a hat! Why spread lies? Of course you haven't, because he's not a rabbit. It's the rabbit that's in a hat, not Wael. For goodness sake, if you are going to pretend to be ITK, at least try to hold together a cogent argument. Physician, heal thyself. You`re no more capable of cogent argument than Woosh. It was a cat that was in a hat. I suggest you make an appointment to see Dr Seuss asap.
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Post by baggins on Nov 30, 2018 12:06:17 GMT
Our only hope at the moment is that a rabbit wearing a hat will ride into Town on a unicorn with a pocket full of magic beans to pay Sir Rickyβs wages. Or Tommy Gun finds some composure in front of goal. Mushrooms kicking in.
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 30, 2018 12:17:56 GMT
I missed who the sources were then. Who were they?? Does Knowall still think what he heard, is still happening?? By the end of December he said........... I know that. Just wondered if he had heard anything since. Is it still happening and still by next year, in his opinion. I know he didn't say a lot after the Hamer interview. Things can change and I wondered if he's still confident.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 30, 2018 12:19:35 GMT
Of course you haven't, because he's not a rabbit. It's the rabbit that's in a hat, not Wael. For goodness sake, if you are going to pretend to be ITK, at least try to hold together a cogent argument. Physician, heal thyself.Β You`re no more capable of cogent argument than Woosh. It was a cat that was in a hat.Β I suggest you make an appointment to see Dr Seuss asap.
Not so, my sources very close to the club assure me that the cat is in the bag and under no circumstances should I let it out.
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Post by slam on Nov 30, 2018 12:20:49 GMT
and whose going to couch up the Β£60 million for that? any ideas? Couch up? Iβll have a look down the back of my sofa and see what I can find? I looked down the back of my sofa too - I didn't find quite enough to buy the club but guess what I found......... My lost season ticket......... there is an omen for you.... YAY, at least I can go to the next home game and enjoy some thrilling entertainment and another 3 points in the bag..... ohh, wait
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 12:25:38 GMT
I missed who the sources were then. Who were they?? Does Knowall still think what he heard, is still happening?? By the end of December he said........... The Bristol Rovers nativity...
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Post by utg12 on Nov 30, 2018 12:29:10 GMT
1500 piece jigsaw of the new stadium plan? Β If we asked the question, the stock answer would probably be 'working hard behind the scenes' Bit like the 7 dwarfs, busy doing nothing. So you guess. But when Wael was meeting Macron abroad, people were jumping the gun and saying he does not like us anymore, as he was attending a champions League game. Not long after we had a 20% sell on all Macron goods. Easier for a lot to moan and say that they are doing nothing though. Just because we don't know what they are doing, does not mean that are doing nothing. That could be the case, but why employ a CEO to do nothing?? The same people say, Hani won't spend any money and he's tight. The two don't go hand in hand. It's he tight?? Or does he waste money on People to do nothing??? The bottom line is that the club structure is awful. Having a CEO who isn't actually responsible for all staff is weird. Having a CEO and a paid Chair is pretty weird, especially when they don't talk. No disrespect but do you have any experience of medium sized business? Or Boards? Fact - Hamer didn't know about Starnes being employed. Fact - Starnes works in Box 1 during the week, far away from everyone else in the stadium. Fact - Hamer and Starnes never talk to each other. Fact - Hamer got the job as he was helping AQ buy a club. Starnes got the job because he asked his friend wael if he had any work going. New Programme editor got his job as an ex work colleague of Starnes at plymouyh. None of those jobs were advertised or interviewef for. This isn't just about wasted money, it's about structure, unclear responsibilities and a very very clear lack of communication and acceptance between hamer and Starnes. Yet Wael ultimately orgsnised all this. It is causing a problem and does not help the on the field problems.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 30, 2018 12:42:09 GMT
So you guess. But when Wael was meeting Macron abroad, people were jumping the gun and saying he does not like us anymore, as he was attending a champions League game. Not long after we had a 20% sell on all Macron goods. Easier for a lot to moan and say that they are doing nothing though. Just because we don't know what they are doing, does not mean that are doing nothing. That could be the case, but why employ a CEO to do nothing?? The same people say, Hani won't spend any money and he's tight. The two don't go hand in hand. It's he tight?? Or does he waste money on People to do nothing??? The bottom line is that the club structure is awful. Having a CEO who isn't actually responsible for all staff is weird. Having a CEO and a paid Chair is pretty weird, especially when they don't talk. No disrespect but do you have any experience of medium sized business? Or Boards? Fact - Hamer didn't know about Starnes being employed. Fact - Starnes works in Box 1 during the week, far away from everyone else in the stadium. Fact - Hamer and Starnes never talk to each other. Fact - Hamer got the job as he was helping AQ buy a club. Starnes got the job because he asked his friend wael if he had any work going. New Programme editor got his job as an ex work colleague of Starnes at plymouyh. None of those jobs were advertised or interviewef for. This isn't just about wasted money, it's about structure, unclear responsibilities and a very very clear lack of communication and acceptance between hamer and Starnes. Yet Wael ultimately orgsnised all this. It is causing a problem and does not help the on the field problems. Fact. I Lol'd. I agree that the off field issues are causing problems though.
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Post by utg12 on Nov 30, 2018 12:51:21 GMT
The bottom line is that the club structure is awful. Having a CEO who isn't actually responsible for all staff is weird. Having a CEO and a paid Chair is pretty weird, especially when they don't talk. No disrespect but do you have any experience of medium sized business? Or Boards? Fact - Hamer didn't know about Starnes being employed. Fact - Starnes works in Box 1 during the week, far away from everyone else in the stadium. Fact - Hamer and Starnes never talk to each other. Fact - Hamer got the job as he was helping AQ buy a club. Starnes got the job because he asked his friend wael if he had any work going. New Programme editor got his job as an ex work colleague of Starnes at plymouyh. None of those jobs were advertised or interviewef for. This isn't just about wasted money, it's about structure, unclear responsibilities and a very very clear lack of communication and acceptance between hamer and Starnes. Yet Wael ultimately orgsnised all this. It is causing a problem and does not help the on the field problems. Fact. I Lol'd. I agree that the off field issues are causing problems though. 100% facts. Seriously. They are.
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 30, 2018 12:53:01 GMT
So you guess. But when Wael was meeting Macron abroad, people were jumping the gun and saying he does not like us anymore, as he was attending a champions League game. Not long after we had a 20% sell on all Macron goods. Easier for a lot to moan and say that they are doing nothing though. Just because we don't know what they are doing, does not mean that are doing nothing. That could be the case, but why employ a CEO to do nothing?? The same people say, Hani won't spend any money and he's tight. The two don't go hand in hand. It's he tight?? Or does he waste money on People to do nothing??? The bottom line is that the club structure is awful. Having a CEO who isn't actually responsible for all staff is weird. Having a CEO and a paid Chair is pretty weird, especially when they don't talk. No disrespect but do you have any experience of medium sized business? Or Boards? Fact - Hamer didn't know about Starnes being employed. Fact - Starnes works in Box 1 during the week, far away from everyone else in the stadium. Fact - Hamer and Starnes never talk to each other. Fact - Hamer got the job as he was helping AQ buy a club. Starnes got the job because he asked his friend wael if he had any work going. New Programme editor got his job as an ex work colleague of Starnes at plymouyh. None of those jobs were advertised or interviewef for. This isn't just about wasted money, it's about structure, unclear responsibilities and a very very clear lack of communication and acceptance between hamer and Starnes. Yet Wael ultimately orgsnised all this. It is causing a problem and does not help the on the field problems. Maybe Starnes is working on something that Wael does not want Hamer to know about. Hamer has time to do radio and stuff now. Maybe Wael was not happy with him, but he's under contract. Starnes has not been employed to do nothing though.
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 30, 2018 12:54:56 GMT
The bottom line is that the club structure is awful. Having a CEO who isn't actually responsible for all staff is weird. Having a CEO and a paid Chair is pretty weird, especially when they don't talk. No disrespect but do you have any experience of medium sized business? Or Boards? Fact - Hamer didn't know about Starnes being employed. Fact - Starnes works in Box 1 during the week, far away from everyone else in the stadium. Fact - Hamer and Starnes never talk to each other. Fact - Hamer got the job as he was helping AQ buy a club. Starnes got the job because he asked his friend wael if he had any work going. New Programme editor got his job as an ex work colleague of Starnes at plymouyh. None of those jobs were advertised or interviewef for. This isn't just about wasted money, it's about structure, unclear responsibilities and a very very clear lack of communication and acceptance between hamer and Starnes. Yet Wael ultimately orgsnised all this. It is causing a problem and does not help the on the field problems. Maybe Starnes is working on something that Wael does not want Hamer to know about. Hamer has time to do radio and stuff now. Maybe Wael was not happy with him, but he's under contract. Starnes has not been employed to do nothing though. Plus it's nice to know you know exactly what they are doing every second of every day. Unless you are one of them, there is no way you could know if they speak or not. Do you not what he's working on then, as you know so much???
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 13:18:30 GMT
Fact. I Lol'd. I agree that the off field issues are causing problems though. 100% facts. Seriously. They are. You are Yoda and I claim my five pounds !
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Post by mariobalotelli on Nov 30, 2018 13:34:24 GMT
I definitely fall into the "be careful what you wish for" camp. Here is why: 1. We will never know why the UWE deal fell through. There is an automatic assumption that it was the fault of our owners, however it could have been the fault of UWE and I have heard anything, read anything that conclusively proves either way. 2. When they came in, they NEVER EVER said that they were Billionaires prepared to chuck loads of cash at the club. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just wrong. They were very fair at the beginning with "Evolution, not Revolution". I do believe we have evolved over the last couple of years. Certainly with TG trying to generate more income. I hear things like "The ALQ's haven't even paid for the refurbishments". Good, I say. The club needs to be sustainable in its own right. It shows that under the previous owners we hadn't engaged with the business community enough. 3. The Colony - The biggest conspiracy theory in the history of Bristol Rovers. Actually, they have told us what has happened. It's turned out to be more expensive that they were expecting. I can believe that. They have bought the land, that shows me that they had intentions. I actually think that they are right to pull the plug if they cannot afford it. 4. The 2nd conspiracy that they will sell the stadium when their loan value equals the asset value. This one is still to be decided. However, put yourself in their shoes for a moment. If you heard the sh** that is being spouted about you. If you see the disrespectful memes that are being posted on social media. If you start to hear rascist undertones about your country of origin. If you are being called a fraud. What would you do? I think we may be in danger of creating a self fulfilling prophecy. Apart from chucking millions into the club, I don't see how they could have done much differently. People talk about three goal scorers leaving. No one is blaming the players here. The players wanted to leave to further their careers (and more cash). Hamer in his interview last week hinted that we were being paid in instalments and if you listen to what he said and you do have to listen hard. He said that the money that they had received was reinvested in players. That suggests to me that we haven't received all the money for those three players. Fans are so focused on this cash from three players, however no one ever asked what happened to the Β£1m we supposedly received when Ricky Lambert made his England debut. Our transfer record is still Andy Tillson, so what happened to that money, eh? Just be careful what you wish for. I believe UWE falling through was at fault of UWE and not the board. I agreed with the evolution and not revolution thing, I didn't expect them to chuck money around but I expected more than we got from Higgs and co. All we've got is a fancy behind the scenes additions of whom no one really knows what they do and a London office. With the colony, costs can spiral but they were only willing to spend 2M when it would have cost 8M? Sorry but they should have knew the costs before hand and there's no way it got that out of hand out of nowhere. He said it had been re-invested. Geoff asked him to clarify whether it had all been re-invested in players and he just responded by saying some sh** like "I can guarantee you it's all been re-invested". Everyone knows where the Lambert money went - the stadium/sainsburys fiasco.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 13:35:10 GMT
Had a weird dream last night - DC stayed but was still unhappy, we kept losing, went down as bottom of DIV 1, no investment, I didn't renew my ST and a deadline passed - then a new stadium plan was announced and confirmed, we spent loads on new players, kept winning and I couldn't get a ticket for love nor money! We went up Top and then they only let ST holders choose their seat in the new stadium. I was up in the gods somewhere feeling very sad! Was really weird but was nice to imagine and feel like I was in our new stadium!
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Post by Marshy on Nov 30, 2018 13:36:45 GMT
Had a weird dream last night - DC stayed but was still unhappy, we kept losing, went down as bottom of DIV 1, no investment, I didn't renew my ST and a deadline passed - then a new stadium plan was announced and confirmed, we spent loads on new players, kept winning and I couldn't get a ticket for love nor money! We went up Top and then they only let ST holders choose their seat in the new stadium. I was up in the gods somewhere feeling very sad! Was really weird but was nice to imagine and feel like I was in our new stadium! Keep taking the tablets.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 13:39:53 GMT
Had a weird dream last night - DC stayed but was still unhappy, we kept losing, went down as bottom of DIV 1, no investment, I didn't renew my ST and a deadline passed - then a new stadium plan was announced and confirmed, we spent loads on new players, kept winning and I couldn't get a ticket for love nor money! We went up Top and then they only let ST holders choose their seat in the new stadium. I was up in the gods somewhere feeling very sad! Was really weird but was nice to imagine and feel like I was in our new stadium! Keep taking the tablets. lol! Prefer herbal remedies!
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Post by pucklegas on Nov 30, 2018 13:40:34 GMT
Had a weird dream last night - DC stayed but was still unhappy, we kept losing, went down as bottom of DIV 1, no investment, I didn't renew my ST and a deadline passed - then a new stadium plan was announced and confirmed, we spent loads on new players, kept winning and I couldn't get a ticket for love nor money! We went up Top and then they only let ST holders choose their seat in the new stadium. I was up in the gods somewhere feeling very sad! Was really weird but was nice to imagine and feel like I was in our new stadium! Not a dream heard Claire say this morning that you are being moved to the new tent stand positioned in the car park, restricted view πππ
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 13:42:01 GMT
Had a weird dream last night - DC stayed but was still unhappy, we kept losing, went down as bottom of DIV 1, no investment, I didn't renew my ST and a deadline passed - then a new stadium plan was announced and confirmed, we spent loads on new players, kept winning and I couldn't get a ticket for love nor money! We went up Top and then they only let ST holders choose their seat in the new stadium. I was up in the gods somewhere feeling very sad! Was really weird but was nice to imagine and feel like I was in our new stadium! Not a dream heard Claire say this morning that you are being moved to the new tent stand positioned in the car park, restricted view πππ A seat at last - How posh!
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Post by baggins on Nov 30, 2018 14:10:07 GMT
Physician, heal thyself.Β You`re no more capable of cogent argument than Woosh. It was a cat that was in a hat.Β I suggest you make an appointment to see Dr Seuss asap.
Not so, my sources very close to the club assure me that the cat is in the bag and under no circumstances should I let it out. Your cat is riddled with fleas.
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